bodyparts twice a week

Oh man.

Where oh where has my training forum gone?

Guys, EVERYONE can train bodyparts twice per week, if not more. Elite level athletes from powerlifters to Olympic Lifters to Cyclists, etc do it and have done it for years.

I see several major issues that are preventing you guys from training like this...

1) Training to total muscle failure. When are you guys gonna learn to quit going to absolute total muscular failure? Studies have shown that leaving a rep or two in the tank provides the same stimulus for muscle growth and you will be able to work out again sooner, thus providing your body with double the stimulus in the same amount of time.

2) Training upper body like 4+ times per week and lower body once per week. This is a serious problem. NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER train upper body more times per week than lower body. Keep it the same. You wonder why you can't recover when Monday you work chest by bench pressing (and oh yeah, your delts and tricpes get a pretty good workout there too), then on Tuesday you do shoulders (except that you already worked shoulders once this week when you bench pressed), then Thursday you do tricpes with closegrip benches and dips (except that it also works your shoulders and chest which have already been worked to total muscular failure numerous times this week.)

Get what I'm saying? You have to change your whole idea of how to train. It's your theory that needs to change, not your work ethic. I think most of you banana hammock wearing, bodybuilders actually have a good work ethic, but you are morons when it comes to training.

3) Isolation exercises - WTF? When did you guys decide you were Ronnie Coleman? And you know what? Ever seen Ronnie Coleman workout? He doesn't use isolation exercises. Learn to get in the gym on lower body days and suqat and pull heavy and BAM 90% of your workout is done. You have to learn to be satisfied with working hard and heavy with compound movements. Upper body day? Press heavy, knock out a few sets of heavy extension exercises and you're done.

It's time to realize that that being the strongest guy on that hammer strength tricep machine doesn't mean jack crap. However, you ever seen a guy who benches 600lbs that needed bigger triceps? Nope. Ever seen a guy squat 700 down and sit on his feet and come back up that needed bigger legs? Nope.

Learn to use the nautilis machines as towel racks and start lifting big weights with the big boys. Lift heavy and relatively often abd be satisfied with that and that alone as your workout. I promise you'll grow more than you ever have from those isolation exercises.

Matt
 
Amen!

Except, ah shit! I forget his name...the fellow who has squatted over 1k lbs multiple times recently. I think his biggest thus far is 1052lbs. Anyway, he needs bigger legs. I can't believe he can hold himself, let along 1000lbs, on thos legs. ;)
 
Animal Mass,

Hell yeah! Thats what I'm talking about.

compound muscle movements + more food&food + rest = more MASS
 
AnimalMass said:
Oh man.

Where oh where has my training forum gone?

Guys, EVERYONE can train bodyparts twice per week, if not more. Elite level athletes from powerlifters to Olympic Lifters to Cyclists, etc do it and have done it for years.

I see several major issues that are preventing you guys from training like this...

1) Training to total muscle failure. When are you guys gonna learn to quit going to absolute total muscular failure? Studies have shown that leaving a rep or two in the tank provides the same stimulus for muscle growth and you will be able to work out again sooner, thus providing your body with double the stimulus in the same amount of time.

2) Training upper body like 4+ times per week and lower body once per week. This is a serious problem. NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER train upper body more times per week than lower body. Keep it the same. You wonder why you can't recover when Monday you work chest by bench pressing (and oh yeah, your delts and tricpes get a pretty good workout there too), then on Tuesday you do shoulders (except that you already worked shoulders once this week when you bench pressed), then Thursday you do tricpes with closegrip benches and dips (except that it also works your shoulders and chest which have already been worked to total muscular failure numerous times this week.)

Get what I'm saying? You have to change your whole idea of how to train. It's your theory that needs to change, not your work ethic. I think most of you banana hammock wearing, bodybuilders actually have a good work ethic, but you are morons when it comes to training.

3) Isolation exercises - WTF? When did you guys decide you were Ronnie Coleman? And you know what? Ever seen Ronnie Coleman workout? He doesn't use isolation exercises. Learn to get in the gym on lower body days and suqat and pull heavy and BAM 90% of your workout is done. You have to learn to be satisfied with working hard and heavy with compound movements. Upper body day? Press heavy, knock out a few sets of heavy extension exercises and you're done.

It's time to realize that that being the strongest guy on that hammer strength tricep machine doesn't mean jack crap. However, you ever seen a guy who benches 600lbs that needed bigger triceps? Nope. Ever seen a guy squat 700 down and sit on his feet and come back up that needed bigger legs? Nope.

Learn to use the nautilis machines as towel racks and start lifting big weights with the big boys. Lift heavy and relatively often abd be satisfied with that and that alone as your workout. I promise you'll grow more than you ever have from those isolation exercises.

Matt

I am no expert and have no where near the knowledge of many people on this board but i still can't figure out what the hell is so hard to understand about everything that animalmass just said? shitcan the isolation workouts, quit getting mad that 20 sets for arms and NO leg workout isn't letting you grow and just accept the truth. Here's a sad fact that has nothing to do with anyone on this board: I just joined a new gym about 3 months ago now, and i have not seen ONE squat, or ONE deadlift occur other than that of my own since i've been going there.
 
Yo AM,

Frankly bro I jus gave up trying to tell them the truth..lol.

well, if this lace is going to come back to life then cool, I will post here again, starting today.

Cheers,

G.
 
If you know what you're doing you can train your bodyparts at least 2x a week, as others have already said.

My bodyparts get AT LEAST that much, if not more.

For example, my back gets trained 4x a week, heavy and hard.

Monday: Heavy weighted chinups for 5x5, followed by upright rows for 5x8

Wednesday: Sumo or SL deadlifts for 5x5, followed by reverse hypers for 5x8 and DB shrugs for 5x8

Friday: JS rows for 5x5, then upright rows again.

Sunday: Speed deadlifts (competition stance) for 6 sets of 1, followed by seated bent-back goodmornings for 5x5, barbell shrugs and DB shrugs.

I don't even consider this a lot of back training for a 3x bodyweight squatter and competitive powerlifter.

Chuck Vogelpough (sp) is a 4x bodyweight squatter (1000+ squats at 220 bodyweight) and he trains his back everyday, multiple times a day. You heard me.

I'm not advocating this kind of training for a beginner. Its just that most people don't really understand what working hard really means.
 
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