Bold, Deca, MPP

[The Jason Bourne]

Planning my next cycle. Used Bold with Test E and DBol last cycle. Worked well but always looking for something better. Read a little bit about Deca and MPP. Any suggestions? Is either better than Bold in anyone's experience? Thanks.

 

[Sworder]

What other compounds are you planning on using? Stats? Length of cycle? You mean NPP right not MPP?

 

[The Jason Bourne]

What other compounds are you planning on using? Stats? Length of cycle? You mean NPP right not MPP?

Yes, my mistake. I plan on using Test E, Test Prop (to help kick start), DBol, TNE (everyday as a pre), and then I was going to use Bold. Planning a 20 wk cycle. 6'3 197lbs. Just didn't know if there was a better alternative. Had descent results with Bold but hear good things about the others. Thanks.

 

[mac111]

interested, might throw in NPP last 3wks of my cycle, if its a good strength enhancement

 

[Sworder]

Week 1-8: Test E 500mg/week or run Test P 500mg/week
Week 1-8: NPP 400mg/week
Week 1-4: Dbol 40mg/day
If you opt to run the Test E instead of the Test P you can do:
Week 9-10: Dbol 40mg/day
Week 9: Test p 100mg EOD
Week 10: Test P 200 mg EOD
The start your PCT 3 days after last Test P shot. run hcg during cycle 500-1000IU/week split EOD or E3D.

I am guessing you are bulking, no need to run a 20 week cycle and your gains will slow down drastically by week 8ish. Better for results and easier on your system to keep your cycles sub10weeks. I prefer Deca or NPP to Boldenone any day. Boldenone isn't very anabolic imo and at the doses it needs to be run it isn't worth it. The extreme half-life makes it a bitch to deal with too. What is your diet gonna be like/training?

 

[The Jason Bourne]

interested, might throw in NPP last 3wks of my cycle, if its a good strength enhancement

What are you using now?

 

[mac111]

What are you using now?

had a fresh 1g test u trt shot last week and will be running the following on top for 6wks:

75mg drol pd (4wks)
30mg dbol pd (5wks)
100mg tren e pw (350mg front load)
300mg test e pw (750mg front load)

adding in 2wks:
350mg tren a pw
350mg test p or NPP pw

adding in 3wks:
30mg halo pd (2wks)

0.5 adex eod

aim = world record deadlift

 

[mac111]

Week 1-8: Test E 500mg/week or run Test P 500mg/week
Week 1-8: NPP 400mg/week
Week 1-4: Dbol 40mg/day
If you opt to run the Test E instead of the Test P you can do:
Week 9-10: Dbol 40mg/day
Week 9: Test p 100mg EOD
Week 10: Test P 200 mg EOD
The start your PCT 3 days after last Test P shot. run hcg during cycle 500-1000IU/week split EOD or E3D.

I am guessing you are bulking, no need to run a 20 week cycle and your gains will slow down drastically by week 8ish. Better for results and easier on your system to keep your cycles sub10weeks. I prefer Deca or NPP to Boldenone any day. Boldenone isn't very anabolic imo and at the doses it needs to be run it isn't worth it. The extreme half-life makes it a bitch to deal with too. What is your diet gonna be like/training?

i agree that 20wks is way too long but i would eek out those long esters to 10wks tbh. and yes, bold is a waste of oil [)]

 

[The Jason Bourne]

Week 1-8: Test E 500mg/week or run Test P 500mg/week
Week 1-8: NPP 400mg/week
Week 1-4: Dbol 40mg/day
If you opt to run the Test E instead of the Test P you can do:
Week 9-10: Dbol 40mg/day
Week 9: Test p 100mg EOD
Week 10: Test P 200 mg EOD
The start your PCT 3 days after last Test P shot. run hcg during cycle 500-1000IU/week split EOD or E3D.

I am guessing you are bulking, no need to run a 20 week cycle and your gains will slow down drastically by week 8ish. Better for results and easier on your system to keep your cycles sub10weeks. I prefer Deca or NPP to Boldenone any day. Boldenone isn't very anabolic imo and at the doses it needs to be run it isn't worth it. The extreme half-life makes it a bitch to deal with too. What is your diet gonna be like/training?

Thanks for the input. It makes a lot of sense. I am wanting to bulk. It takes Test E a while to kick in so that is why I wanted to include Prop. Thought it would help it kick start. Training is 5 days a week. Cardio and swimming included. Clean diet for the most part. I am assuming you prefer NPP to Deca?

 

[mac111]

Thanks for the input. It makes a lot of sense. I am wanting to bulk. It takes Test E a while to kick in so that is why I wanted to include Prop. Thought it would help it kick start. Training is 5 days a week. Cardio and swimming included. Clean diet for the most part. I am assuming you prefer NPP to Deca?

i wouldnt bother if bulking.....

 

[mac111]

Sworder, wk 9-10 dbol? that a typo?

 

[Sworder]

I am too cheap and doses get up there so I usually frontload all the long esters and transpose short esters for the end of the cycle. How many calories are you going to consume/macros? NPP is usually easier to deal with just especially when suggesting it's use.
I could tell you to frontload 1200mg Deca first day, week 2-4 500mg Deca, week5-6 300mgNPP week 6-8 400mg NPP. That's typically how I do it in a 8 weeker. Longer esters are cheaper and I can always find better ways to spend my money. I love a good steak...

 

[Sworder]

Sworder, wk 9-10 dbol? that a typo?

If he runs the Test E, it can be nice to run some orals while waiting for the long esters to leave.

I meant to write in there OR:
Week 9: Test P 100 EOD
Week 10: Test p 200mg EOD

 

[mac111]

big dose of deca nearly drove me fuckin insane 4yrs ago, did 900mg pw and fucking hell that was a wild sweaty ride!! never again! do you not get bad sides off a big dose?

 

[mac111]

If he runs the Test E, it can be nice to run some orals while waiting for the long esters to leave.

for just a week though? usually 10days before dbol even starts to manifest anything worthwhile, i'd run it 3wks at least and prob only 25-30mg, timed accordingly with the test dwindling. although its a bit pointless anyhow imho, it'd will be a more abrupt downshift coming off dbol than test i reckon.

 

[Sworder]

Nah, I usually sleep best on cycle. Off cycle my body is adjusting, sweating like a mother. I have never run Deca higher than 500mg, I like it for an anabolic edge and joint support.

 

[mac111]

Nah, I usually sleep best on cycle. Off cycle my body is adjusting, sweating like a mother. I have never run Deca higher than 500mg, I like it for an anabolic edge and joint support.

i fucking hate the sweats, ruined my sympathetic nerve chain in a bad car wreck (smashed up ribs back and front and was lucky i didnt have spinal damage) and thus ended up with hyperhydrosis so the gear dont help! thats why im easing in my tren with a low dose enth ester and then kicking up onto ace, as i find that i sweat profusely in the first 2wks of ace then it subsides as my body adjusts.

 

[Sworder]

Clen makes me sweat like crazy, I radiate heat on clen. High dose Tren doesn't make me sweat but it gives me a banging fucking headache and sends my BP up.

 

[mac111]

Clen makes me sweat like crazy, I radiate heat on clen. High dose Tren doesn't make me sweat but it gives me a banging fucking headache and sends my BP up.

strangely clen didnt hit me as hard as 19nors do, i'd never run tren higher than 450mg pw, ive an explosive temper which didnt help when i did doors, got sacked off loads of clubs for cracking skulls, now a manager in an upmarket hotel so i dont need the red mist descending in that environment lol

 

[Sworder]

Haha, I bet! Tren can be pretty bad, especially when it first kicks in and you get the mind racing effect. That coupled with a bad temper makes for trouble.