Boldenone vs Nandrolone

[gilmarpersonal]

boldenone increases hematocrit more than steroids in general?

Which is more anabolic boldenone or nandrolone?

What are the advantages of boldenone over Nandrolone?

 

[EustaceBagge]

On deca I got a little acne, but decided to continue running anyway. Around week 8-10 I started to get lethargy but it came so slow I didn't notice it until I was completely defeated. I made the mistake of not using a test base for an "old school" cycle, which Imo is bullshit. Now I've added a test base but the lethargy is not really going away, so I suppose Deca is just not for me. At least my cock was working the whole time and my nipples never got itchy like on 500mg test. Very weird.

Same thing for boldenone, some people get anxiety on it which is just unique to the compound and user. I never used the stuff but I will try in the future to see whether it is similar to deca.

For now just use NPP or you will regret life if u get the depression symptoms lol. Also use a proper test base, people can help you with the correct ratios for deca.

For gains it is generally thought that deca is better than bold, but you better find out yourself just make sure to use short esters Imo. Hope this helps.

 

[hometeam]

Mg for mg nandrolone is more anabolic, but that just means people run a little higher doses of boldenone to get the same effect. It's like choosing between 100mg of tren or a gram or primo... so that part comes down to dose.

Problem with boldenone is the ester. It has a 14 day half life. So unless you front load you're looking at about 10 weeks to kick in. And unless you stop it early you're looking at about 8-10 weeks to do a PCT. It also raises your red blood cell count and blood pressure a lot. But you can get a dry, hard, vascular look.

Problem with nandrolone is the water retention. I don't like having a bloated face. It also regatively impacts cardio and endurance. Then there's the progestagenic (sexual/gyno) side effects. But you will pack on the lbs. The decanoate ester also has a somewhat long half life but luckily it's not hard to find the NPP form.

They're both designed to have low androgenic sides. There's no rule saying you can't use both. Personally I prefer to keep Deca under 300mg to reduce bloat and sexual sides. I don't get ED at higher doses like most do but do get delayed orgasm and end up wearing out making my partner and making her real sore and worried that every time we get together it's going to be a marathon. And then run a bit more boldenone but keeping in mind the front loading that is necessary.

 

[theotherguy]

Problem with boldenone is the ester. It has a 14 day half life.

Why do you assume the undecyclenate ester? Why not ace or cyp?

 

[RomanMVP]

There's a very recent thread on page 2 here,

deca versus equipoise.​

Lots of answers/opinions.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

IMO if you can handle boldenone it's better than nandrolone why ??
Increases appetite
Food is anabolic
You eat more food you're more anabolic
You also taking anabolics
You see where this is going ??

If you stack those 2 with a decent test dosage you will be a machine in the gym

Bolde increases rbc and muscle endurance (it fills your muscles with oxygen and blood you must train very hard to relieve all the oxygen and blood or else your blood will turn thick that's what old school vets are telling us in my country)
Nandro lubes the joints
Test for overall strength size and drive

 

[hometeam]

Why do you assume the undecyclenate ester? Why not ace or cyp?

Nobody makes it in any other ester. It's a very big missed opportunity. But you need to get the Chinese to make the raw powder for it.

 

[theotherguy]

Nobody makes it in any other ester. It's a very big missed opportunity. But you need to get the Chinese to make the raw powder for it.

That’s not true. Maybe no US domestic sources on here make it, but there’s sources on here that sell bold cyp and my local guy carries it as well.

I also did brew up my own, which is pretty much what you alluded to.

But it’s a bit of a leap to assume an ester based on OP’s post. We aren’t even sure what he’s working with.

 

[EustaceBagge]

When I see people write about deca they always talk about side effects concerning dick and gyno, but am I seriously the only one that feels mentally different on it? It's like im in a low energy state where I can't care about anything, even important matters. Maybe people don't realize it?

 

[Norma Jeane Mortenson]

When I see people write about deca they always talk about side effects concerning dick and gyno, but am I seriously the only one that feels mentally different on it? It's like im in a low energy state where I can't care about anything, even important matters. Maybe people don't realize it?

Yeah I get mental side-effects from as little as 220 mg/week of Deca. It's kind of like a toned-down, muted version of that tren-sociopathic-feeling.

 

[hometeam]

That’s not true. Maybe no US domestic sources on here make it, but there’s sources on here that sell bold cyp and my local guy carries it as well.

I also did brew up my own, which is pretty much what you alluded to.

But it’s a bit of a leap to assume an ester based on OP’s post. We aren’t even sure what he’s working with.

It's just not feasible to try and find it with another ester. If you disagree, fine. Let someone go and try to find it. It's not out there. I wish it was.

 

[Forthewin1123]

For me npp is stronger at building muscle then boldenone/eq.. but I love eq because it increases my appetite and fullness.. so my favorite stack for over all growth and health is.. test npp and eq.. I feel like the npp and eq really work well together.. I've never ran deca.. really long esters seem silly to me.. also if I even habe an issue on cycle I want to be able to recover in a decent amount of time.. with deca that tough.
Also to not I've never had any bad sides with npp or eq.. I'm fortunate with side effects...only drug that really got me was tren ace.. that was a much need experience and lesson.

 

[Tmisatix]

Haven’t tried nandrolone, but I do love bold. Fullness , but very dry. Also notice a leaning effect. Strength isn’t too enhanced , but work capacity and endurance is notable. I feel pretty good on it and do not notice many sides. Appetite is definitely increased plus sped digestion.

with nandrolone, it converts to dhn which is less potent than dht and dht is essential for a male’s brain. Maybe the ratio is thrown off causing mental sides? Or maybe it’s just progesterone based compounds in general

 

[cmK9s33]

For those of you that use/have used boldenone, at what dose do you notice the work capacity/athletic benefits? I'm wondering how much would be necessary to assist with sports performance but not necessarily build muscle. Building muscle seems to require a fairly high number of mg/wk.

 

[Tmisatix]

For those of you that use/have used boldenone, at what dose do you notice the work capacity/athletic benefits? I'm wondering how much would be necessary to assist with sports performance but not necessarily build muscle. Building muscle seems to require a fairly high number of mg/wk.

I’m noticing great things at 200mg a week

 

[EustaceBagge]

For those of you that use/have used boldenone, at what dose do you notice the work capacity/athletic benefits? I'm wondering how much would be necessary to assist with sports performance but not necessarily build muscle. Building muscle seems to require a fairly high number of mg/wk.

If you want the athletic benefits wouldn't epo itself be much better?

 

[cmK9s33]

If you want the athletic benefits wouldn't epo itself be much better?

Most likely but it’s not nearly as easy to source.

 

[All Nats McGee]

Bold is trash and should never be used. Nandrolone is great but not good on me mentally. DHTs are cleaner and only thing I run nowadays.

 

[Jaxino]

I hate Nandrolone, makes me depressed, hungry and slooooow. (Maybe i was injecting Marijuana?). Not to mention the watery look...

EQ imho is superior, gains are clean, and raises my hematocrit that is always on the low side. In my experience you have to run it double than EQ to have same results.

For me:
1-1,5g TestE/Sust
750mg-1,5g EQ
350-500 TrenAce rotate with 20 injectable Superdrol or 100-150 Drol
5-10iu HGH ed
10-15iu Log/R pre/postwo are a great

If i run Test a bit higher than EQ i don't need any AIs, maybe some Rolax or Nolva here and there for little gyno flareup.

Maybe Primo is even better but i can't really say what it does, since i have never used it for enough time.
Only thing i can say is that made me look really nice, similar to EQ.
EQ makes you fuller than Primo.
Primo more cut than EQ.

Most likely but it’s not nearly as easy to source.

Sourcing EPO is easy, every Chinese raw source has it, direct from pharmacy but, it's expensive stuff compared to aas.
Anyways these are two complete different PEDs that you can't compare.

EPO in bodybuilding imho has no use.

I used it at 10.000iu EW and i was able to bike like a pro (i am still 110kg so take it with a grain of salt) and do never-ending workouts, still doesn't fit most of us bodybuilders.

 

[JC Grifter]

I find it fascinating how big a gap between living and hating EQ is. I’ve never run it so I can also say that I absolutely love nandrolone. The last few weeks with Deca I do start to feel a little “blahh.” Although that doesn’t happen with NPP.

I do have some EQ on hand and will probably try it eventually. Hopefully it ends up being worth it.