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Sworder said:
After discontinued testosterone and oxandrolone I am assuming the patients muscle mass has atrophied a lot. Consequently, a cycle of 500mg Test E and 600mg Trenbolone Enanthate for 8-10 weeks should be in order to rebuild some mass.

At the end of the cycle blast hCG for 2 weeks up until PCT nolva + clomid. Most important is the restoration of the muscle via Trenbolone. I believe trenbolone's mixed PrR activity helps with restoration of the HPTA. This is just a theory.. Just like God works in mysterious ways so does Tren..
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WTF are you still around? Why didn't anyone tell you to GTFO... baffling me. Maybe they just knew who to ignore.
 
Just the bullshit about tren in your post that I quoted. It's an old post... maybe you've grown up a bit since you posted that drivel... maybe no problem - if that's the case?
 
I Declare WAR! said:
Just the bullshit about tren in your post that I quoted. It's an old post... maybe you've grown up a bit since you posted that drivel... maybe no problem - if that's the case?
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The tren for TRT? I run tren only right now at a lower dose. Removes the need for an AI. I am a happy camper. The old school or uneducated brain of yours disagrees on what grounds that you cannot use another androgen for HRT than test?
Oh, and this is where you insult me because you don't have an intelligent response.
Imagine if you had admin powers to ban hammer me ;-P

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You quoted half my post so it doesn't make sense. And in context it doesn't make sense either. :)
Sometimes I don't make sense. Again, what's your problem? :)

Edit nr 2: you quoted my full post. Again? Problem? ;-)

Edit nr 3: The first part of the post is irrelevant to your comment. Got a problem?
 
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I Declare WAR! said:
Yeah, see you're fully retarded. Too tired to reply right now, maybe tomorrow I'll rip into what you are saying.

Have a good one.
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:D

I covered what I said already. The OP you quoted. Didn't make sense.
The edits didn't make sense. A lot of posts made don't make sense.
Go to sleep! You scared! Butty boy! Butty boy!
Good night
 
Tren for TRT / HRT is ludicrous. Tren has been shown to cause brain damage, it is harsh on lipids and ran alone you will be estrogen deficient. This just scratches the surface of a plethora of facts why tren is worse than test for androgen replacement therapy.

Your argument that using tren removes the need for an AI is also ludicrous. Estradiol is an important hormone, even in males. If you use physiological doses of test for TRT you do not need an AI! If you think you do, you are using too much, or you have poor genetics or a mental problem.

Tren is a recreational drug, anyone using it that refuses to acknowledge this is in severe denial and belongs in the junkie section of the forum!
 
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I Declare WAR! said:
Tren for TRT / HRT is ludicrous. You need to be called out. Tren has been shown to cause brain damage. It is harsh on lipids and ran alone you will be estrogen deficient. Estradiol is an important hormone, even in males.

Your argument that using tren removes the need for an AI is also ludicrous. If you use physiological doses if Testostrrone for TRT you do not need an AI! If you think you do, you are using too much, or you have poor genetics or a mental problem.

Tren is a recreational drug, anyone using it and refuses to acknowledge that is in severe denial.
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Oh it is ludicrous eh?
Brain damage happens every second. What study are you referring to?

Theoretically I would be estrogen deficient, but I am not. You want to think that the tren must be bad then huh? Some testosterone in it? I have taken tT labs so what other mechanisms are available to create estrogen?

Physiological doses of testosterone would yield about 500ng/dl right? Mid range? Or what is a physiological dose of testosterone in your opinion?

I like the claim that you don't need to use an AI if you are taking testosterone.
 
In science one needs to build an argument from the ground up. You're constructing your argument in a disjointed manner. You've got this idea that tren is a substitute for test, you need to prove it logically. Put test and tren both in a table and compare how they perform based on the facts. Tren falls short by all accounts, every single one.

You don't need an AI if you're taking between 70-120mg of testosterone per week. Provided you are dosing in accordance with the ester attached. If you think you do, you're full of shit, you're chasing numbers and looking in the wrong place. It's the people who go above physiologic concentrations or push for the higher end of the range that complain.

Tren and brain damage:
17β-trenbolone, an anabolic-androgenic steroid as well as an environmental hormone, contributes to neurodegeneration. - PubMed - NCBI
 
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I Declare WAR! said:
In science one needs to build an argument from the ground up. You're constructing your argument in a disjointed manner. You've got this idea that tren is a substitute for test, you need to prove it logically. Put test and tren both in a table and compare how they perform based on the facts. Tren falls short by all accounts, every single one.

You don't need an AI if you're taking between 70-120mg of testosterone per week. Provided you are dosing in accordance with the ester attached. If you think you do, you're full of shit, you're chasing numbers and looking in the wrong place. It's the people who go above physiologic concentrations or push for the higher end of the range that complain.

Tren and brain damage:
17β-trenbolone, an anabolic-androgenic steroid as well as an environmental hormone, contributes to neurodegeneration. - PubMed - NCBI
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An argument in a disjoint manner how? What specifically? Trenbolone and Testosterone occupy the androgen receptors, scientist have tried developing SARMs for the exact reason that testosterone may not be the optimal hormone for men in regards to many of the effects it has. I am not saying trenbolone is better than testosterone for HRT, I am just saying I like using it because testosterone gives me more side effects.

Everybody is different and some people do need an AI at 70-120mg of testosterone. Check out the men's health section if you need to.

I am not chasing numbers or looking in the wrong places. I don't know what kind of an argument that is. I don't know what your argument is? That tren causes brain damage? Here is the full text btw on that article. Dosage was 5mg/kilo bw.

So the main argument is still that tren causes brain damage?
 
Fact is, it's not better for your body in the long term!

It can be fun to use but that does not make it good to use. You are a recreational user, a junkie.

Recognize yourself for what you are, don't delude others.

I'm done with this argument, at least you've been challenged in this thread. People can make up their own conclusions from what has been said.

If anyone else wants to add some more fuel to the fire, you're invited. @Docd187123 , @Dr JIM , @LW64 , @Michael Scally MD
 
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I Declare WAR! said:
Fact is, it's not better for your body in the long term!

It can be fun to use but that does not make it good to use. You are a recreational user, a junkie.

Recognize yourself for what you are, don't delude others.
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Where are you getting your facts from?
Still referring to the brain study on rats?

Recreational user? Well you would have to define your terms. What is the difference between somebody using AAS therapeutically vs recreational?

Good argument. Call me an idiot. Post a study on trenbolone's effect on rats brains @ 5mg/bw.
Then call for back up.

Never seen this one before :-D
 
Sworder said:
Where are you getting your facts from?
Still referring to the brain study on rats?

Recreational user? Well you would have to define your terms. What is the difference between somebody using AAS therapeutically vs recreational?

Good argument. Call me an idiot. Post a study on trenbolone's effect on rats brains @ 5mg/bw.
Then call for back up.

Never seen this one before :-D
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Nobody likes you here man. Do yourself a favour and leave.
 
Sworder said:
Are you British or something with that spelling?!
Ah, crap! Nobody likes me. I am going to fall asleep in a fetal position crying while sucking my thumb.
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What lol?
You're on many forums, and all over them like a bad rash, and disliked on EVERY ONE of them too. Just do what's best for you and everyone else who reads your bullshit on here by logging out and never logging back in.
 
Trooper Gains said:
What lol?
You're on many forums, and all over them like a bad rash, and disliked on EVERY ONE of them too. Just do what's best for you and everyone else who reads your bullshit on here by logging out and never logging back in.
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Your British spelling of "favour," in America we write "favor," same for color vs colour mom vs mum.

I am not on here to be liked or get a large e-peen. It's for my own entertainment.
 
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