Bread

[jJjburton]

I have been utilizing bread to get carbs.

Does anyone else utilize bread to get carbs?

I find it easy to eat alot of it and its delicious with oil and vinager.

 

[Bumpygooch]

I have been utilizing bread to get carbs.

Does anyone else utilize bread to get carbs?

I find it easy to eat alot of it and its delicious with oil and vinager.

Whatever you need to get to the finish line. I eat plenty of bread/bagels and breakfast cereal. I’m fucking tired of cooking rice and potatoes. Bread and cereal are available immediately.

 

[Gbro]

I love bread. That shit is delicious.

 

[barbell001]

I have been utilizing bread to get carbs.

Does anyone else utilize bread to get carbs?

I find it easy to eat alot of it and its delicious with oil and vinager.

My main 2 carb sources in meals are white bread and white jacket potatoes. With bread you can make toast, sandwiches, toasted sandwiches, egg soldiers lol

 

[jJjburton]

My main 2 carb sources in meals are white bread and white jacket potatoes. With bread you can make toast, sandwiches, toasted sandwiches, egg soldiers lol

Nice, yes fresh hero buns from the bakery, make carbs so easy to eat now, as i was tired of rice too. And i can eat bread even when i am full easily, where rice, if i am full i am not eating anymore.

 

[JC Grifter]

I do but you’ll get more carbs and calories from pasta. During a bulk I have two cups of pasta with lunch and dinner

 

[jJjburton]

I do but you’ll get more carbs and calories from pasta. During a bulk I have two cups of pasta with lunch and dinner

How?

If i eat a whole loaf of bread in a sitting, thats a decent amount of carbs and calories. Like a whole loaf of italian bread.

Edit- That is a nice size of pasta. I just find it soooo easy to dip bread in vinegar and oil. Not a ton of oil. And eat it. So having the variety, bread, pasta and rice in a day. Has been so much easier then just rice.

 

[JC Grifter]

How?

If i eat a whole loaf of bread in a sitting, thats a decent amount of carbs and calories. Like a whole loaf of italian bread.

Edit- That is a nice size of pasta. I just find it soooo easy to dip bread in vinegar and oil. Not a ton of oil. And eat it. So having the variety, bread, pasta and rice in a day. Has been so much easier then just rice.

My bad… didn’t realize you meant a whole loaf at a time lol.

 

[jJjburton]

My bad… didn’t realize you meant a whole loaf at a time lol.

Or half now and then half later. Its super dense and like 10 inches by 3 inches. 11 servings of 230 cals. So its solid. 1 gram protein, 2 gram fat, 43 gram carb in a serving.

I just find it soo much less filling then pasta and rice. So i can even eat it after a full meal. Or quick preworkout snack.

Going loaf or 2/3 in a day, half of the week.

 

[Someguy22]

I do but you’ll get more carbs and calories from pasta. During a bulk I have two cups of pasta with lunch and dinner

If you check out cronometer pasta is indeed more calories and carbs than white bread per gram when measured RAW.

White pasta (dry): 3.71 calories per gram
White bread: 2.7 calories per gram

With that said it does grow a ton with water retention so if you checkout cooked pasta:

Cooked White Pasta: 1.57 calories per gram

Gotta pound back way more cooked pasta VS bread. But yeah pasta is the shit and I am on team pasta.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Bagels are a fantastic dense carb source. White bread is pretty trash and has no place in any diet IMO

 

[Someguy22]

Bagels are a fantastic dense carb source. White bread is pretty trash and has no place in any diet IMO

What's your opinion of low GI alternatives? Is a diet completely based around them inferior to one with higher GI cards (i.e pre and post workout perhaps)?

I'm sure some people prefer high GI carbs, but if there is a whole wheat version or low GI alternative (barley or lentils for example VS white rice) I usually go with that. Anything that has to be "enriched"... looking at you white bread, to match the vitamins and minerals of the same food or some minor alternative isn't worth it IMO.

 

[jJjburton]

What's your opinion of low GI alternatives? Is a diet completely based around them inferior to one with higher GI cards (i.e pre and post workout perhaps)?

I'm sure some people prefer high GI carbs, but if there is a whole wheat version or low GI alternative (barley or lentils for example VS white rice) I usually go with that. Anything that has to be "enriched"... looking at you white bread, to match the vitamins and minerals of the same food or some minor alternative isn't worth it IMO.

So whole wheat loaf of bread vs white bread loaf?

 

[Bumpygooch]

What's your opinion of low GI alternatives? Is a diet completely based around them inferior to one with higher GI cards (i.e pre and post workout perhaps)?

I'm sure some people prefer high GI carbs, but if there is a whole wheat version or low GI alternative (barley or lentils for example VS white rice) I usually go with that. Anything that has to be "enriched"... looking at you white bread, to match the vitamins and minerals of the same food or some minor alternative isn't worth it IMO.

Getting wrapped up in low vs high GI is minutiae, unless eating these things in a vacuum. When any protein or fat is added, the GI difference becomes negligible.

 

[Someguy22]

Getting wrapped up in low vs high GI is minutiae, unless eating these things in a vacuum. When any protein or fat is added, the GI difference becomes negligible.

I can't completely agree with this because of the word "negligible". Protein + fat definitely lower blood glucose spikes, but if it was negligible you would see diabetics just slapping a steak on a cake and going to town. Plus the amount of extra calories per meal in additional fat + protein to get this effect is rather high.

Here's a good study on this:

The Effects of Fat and Protein on Glycemic Responses in Nondiabetic Humans Vary with Waist Circumference, Fasting Plasma Insulin, and Dietary Fiber Intake

Abstract. The effects of protein and fat on glycemic responses have not been studied systematically. Therefore, our aim was to determine the dose-response effec

academic.oup.com

Pretty sick chart from the paper:



At best adding 30 grams of protein + 30 grams of fat lowers the blood glucose peak by 50% in a non diabetic human (rises 2 instead of 4). That's an additional 390 calories a meal. Definitely does not completely negate blood glucose spikes from carbs, but it makes a difference.

 

[Bumpygooch]

I can't completely agree with this because of the word "negligible". If that were the case you would see diabetics just slapping a steak on a cake and going to town.

Here's a good study on this:

The Effects of Fat and Protein on Glycemic Responses in Nondiabetic Humans Vary with Waist Circumference, Fasting Plasma Insulin, and Dietary Fiber Intake

Abstract. The effects of protein and fat on glycemic responses have not been studied systematically. Therefore, our aim was to determine the dose-response effec

academic.oup.com

Pretty sick chart from the paper:

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At best adding 30 grams of protein + 5 grams of fat lowers the blood glucose peak by 12.5% in a non diabetic human (from 8 to 7). Definitely does not completely negate blood glucose spikes from carbs. If anything it's effects seem to slow the decrease of blood glucose levels.

Yah, everything has a context. In terms of what we do, “negligible” is accurate. In terms of fat body sloths, maybe not so much. But, I didn’t realize I had to qualify my statement for fat bodies with a wonky pancreas.

 

[Country Club Hero]

How?

If i eat a whole loaf of bread in a sitting, thats a decent amount of carbs and calories. Like a whole loaf of italian bread.

Edit- That is a nice size of pasta. I just find it soooo easy to dip bread in vinegar and oil. Not a ton of oil. And eat it. So having the variety, bread, pasta and rice in a day. Has been so much easier then just rice.

The vinegar and entire loaf is wild bro. Lol. Ever tried the insta boil in bag rice? Super simple. I like the jasmine rice with a little butter or oil and salt.

im still stunned about the vinegar lol. I mean, I love vinegar. In pickles, on an Italian meat sandwich etc. But I’m intrigued about vinegar and plain bread.

 

[jJjburton]

Lol

The vinegar and entire loaf is wild bro. Lol. Ever tried the insta boil in bag rice? Super simple. I like the jasmine rice with a little butter or oil and salt.

im still stunned about the vinegar lol. I mean, I love vinegar. In pickles, on an Italian meat sandwich etc. But I’m intrigued about vinegar and plain bread.

Lol, i have a rice cooker and its so easy to make jasmine rice. I do all the time. But i would have to eat alot of rice compared to bread. As i eat 200 grams uncooked rice and its a days worth of rice for me. Which is only 800 cals

Yes i do a 2-3 tbsp olive oil, with half red wine half balmasic (1/4-1/3cup combined) per loaf. I love dipping it.

 

[jJjburton]

The vinegar and entire loaf is wild bro. Lol. Ever tried the insta boil in bag rice? Super simple. I like the jasmine rice with a little butter or oil and salt.

im still stunned about the vinegar lol. I mean, I love vinegar. In pickles, on an Italian meat sandwich etc. But I’m intrigued about vinegar and plain bread.

I should add applecider vinegar for health benefits.

I can see the vinegar messing up stomach. So will only be doing this during the next 5 weeks, for this part of cycle.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

I love bread