Wondering if anyone has run a cycle before with calisthenics only, and if they did what were the results, or if gear would be very beneficial to calisthenics only workouts?
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Calisthenics and AAS
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I have not but gear will help most, if not all, types of training. If your goal is size or strength related though you're leaving a lot on the table by not using a barbell or weight training.
I prefer weights over calisthenics.
How beneficial do you feel it would be towards calisthenics though? I've seen a lot of people who claim to use only calisthenics but are straight beast mode. Examples are George Richards and Hannibal for king.
They say they are natural but idk if I believe that by the bodies they have.
I'm not sure I believe them either as even Olympic gymnasts don't get bodies like that but then again they also must maintain within strict weight parameters.
I think calisthenic training can def be enough for some ppl's goals but not for most on here. There's not many ways to progressively overload calisthenic exercises like you can with a barbell or dumbbell. I'm sure they have great acceleration and explosion but I've never seen a 500lb gymnast squatter if strength is your goal.
Bottom line is AAS will help recovery from it and certainly help with the performance granted you don't gain too much weight too quick. I'd prefer to concentrate on weights and maybe add in some fluff work involving calisthenics if anything. 3-5 lifting days and a calisthenic day type deal.
Have you seen frank medrano? Guys a vegan but really strong and has little body fat. He lifts weights and does calisthenics.
Think he takes gear? I wouldn't mind being as small as him if I had his strength. He weighs 160-165. I prefer being bigger though. I still feel small at 185.
I have seen guys look great just from push ups, pull ups, and dips. Do I think it's optimal for muscle building? No. If you look at the the guys that look good from that type of training before they started they looked muscular without doing anything. It's called genetics. I seen bums that that had better bodies then guys who trained for years. Not big but very defined with full muscle bellies. Some guys can look great on any type of training.
No I haven't seen or heard of that guy. Most vegans I've come across have left a bad taste in my mouth as they want to claim some sort of moral high ground for their diet and continually try and prove how much better they are than anyone else. Bc of that I go out of my way to avoid vegans for the most part. There are exceptions obviously as I've met some cool ass vegans but most of my experiences with them have been bad.
May I ask what your current stats are? Im curious what your goals are too as they might be able to be achieved without the risk of AAS use and everything that comes with it. It's your choice if you use them or not but I'd be irresponsible if I at least didn't bring this up to you.
May I ask what your current stats are? Im curious what your goals are too as they might be able to be achieved without the risk of AAS use and everything that comes with it. It's your choice if you use them or not but I'd be irresponsible if I at least didn't bring this up to you.
Calisthenics is great for a pre-workout warmup in my opinion. Getting muscles warmed up stretched out and ready to go is a good benefit of some light calisthenics prior to workouts.
Age:24
Height:5"11
Weight:180-185 depending on time I weigh and what I eat that day.
Goal weight:200
Goal bench:400
Goal squat:600
I could do a lot of this natural so I really probably haven't should have cycled just yet.
I worked out on and off seriously for 4 or 5 years. Just got back into it seriously January 4, 2015.
Weights were going up quick and so was body weight. I went from benching 225 5 times to benching 250 5 times in about 3 1/2 - 4 months. Could squat 475 for reps of 10( done on a smith machine).
If I can get up to 200 lbs, thinking of leaving gear alone. I go more for strength than mass.
Nice stats and if you go for strength you better eat plenty. Gear can help with strength gains as well.
Think they can build good strength? There are people who do diamond handstand push-ups and muscle flags. I feel that requires a lot of strength. Pistol squats are pretty hard too.
Good point there and maybe others will chime in on this topic. Never used calisthenics alone for strength but to get my muscles ready for heavy work. Stuff like muscle flags,handstands and pistol squats also need good balance and coordination not just strength.
Those are definitely tough goals to reach squat and bench wise considering you want to be around 200lbs. I wouldn't say impossible but it will involve hard work and gear.
I always think it best to have some foundation in training and nutrition before cycling to make the most use out of steroids. So don't slack on those two things regardless of if you continue using or not.
Those aren't bad numbers at all for your size but ditch the smith machine and use free weight barbell for your lifting. You'll need to drop the weight some but it'll be worth it in the end. A barbell teaches you things a smith machine cannot.
Thanks. I try to eat a lot but I don't get as much time as I need all the time due to my job.
Next cycle maybe last cycle depending on results will go something like this.
Test E- 600mg 15 weeks
Deca- 600mg 10 weeks might extend to 15.
Dbol- 40mg first 25 days
Winny- 40mg last 25 days
True. I was thinking of trying straight calisthenics during time off cycle but don't want to lose to much size or strength by ditching weights.
Why not prep meals ahead of time so that you'll eat enough on your breaks at work. Also get some high intensity workouts in if you are short on time for training. I myself allot 1 hour for training as I have little time, so I keep workouts short sweet and heavy.
What do you feel the difference in the smith machine and the squat rack is? Such as if you squat 100 on smith machine how much could you squat in the rack?
That's how I started training years ago. Did I get some results ? Yes but not the kind that I wanted. I did it all. decs of cards , diamond push-ups. Dips. Pull ups. Did it build strength ? Maybe. But not explosive strength. More muscle endurance. Your hitting slow twitch muscle fibers. Unless you can only do 10 push ups. If you want to get strong , lift weights. Plyometrics would be better if you want to that route if that was your only option.
I work 12-13 hr shifts Monday-Thursday with no breaks.
I also prefer heavy workouts. Been doing 3x5 close to failure as possible without failing. 2 muscles a workout. 4 different exercises on each muscle.
I workout about 1-1 1/2 hrs 6 times a week. Sometimes 7 but abs only on Sunday if I workout that day. I do 1 ab exercise a day everyday though with Sunday being the exception.
Good plan there you have, and as I myselfd can only train 4 days a week I make each workout count with such little time.
