Can anyone help with this (MaxRep)

[cathex]

Okay, I'm going to run sus & deca for 10 wks @ 500mg & 400mg respectively, I have some nolva on hand because I'm sensitive to gyno and I have my pct ready too, but I read that nolva won't help with progesterone related gyno which can occur as a result of using deca. Is this true, should I be concerned at this dose and if so what can I take to counter it?

Ps. I'm almost ready to start my course but I'm getting myself back up to full natural condition first so that may max my gains. Just for the record my current stats are as follows:

Height 173 cm
Bf 12%
weight 79 kg
waist 31'

 

[ENDRO]

Okay, I'm going to run sus & deca for 10 wks @ 500mg & 400mg respectively, I have some nolva on hand because I'm sensitive to gyno and I have my pct ready too, but I read that nolva won't help with progesterone related gyno which can occur as a result of using deca. Is this true, should I be concerned at this dose and if so what can I take to counter it?

Ps. I'm almost ready to start my course but I'm getting myself back up to full natural condition first so that may max my gains. Just for the record my current stats are as follows:

Height 173 cm
Bf 12%
weight 79 kg
waist 31'

Bro in my opinion deca is the wrong drug if you are pron to gyno and you are right nova will not work with progesterone gyno!
would have been better off going with test and dbol and then your nova would have been fine.
have no suggestions for progesterone that are proven.

 

[Biggriz]

I too, got sides from Deca and even posted I would never do it again. Well I've learned alot since then, and am using deca right now, with no sides again. This is the second time I've used deca after the dreaded lumps under my nips. Ready for what really works for the prevention of deca sides....adex .25 ED, nolva 10mg ED, B6 300mg ED DURING your cycle. It's not only worked for me, but some friends as well.
And if you don't believe me...ask Einstein1905

 

[einstein1905]

I too, got sides from Deca and even posted I would never do it again. Well I've learned alot since then, and am using deca right now, with no sides again. This is the second time I've used deca after the dreaded lumps under my nips. Ready for what really works for the prevention of deca sides....adex .25 ED, nolva 10mg ED, B6 300mg ED DURING your cycle. It's not only worked for me, but some friends as well.
And if you don't believe me...ask Einstein1905

Thanks for the endorsement. There's room here on the soapbox for more than just me. Using a combo of adex/nolva/B6 in appropriate doses during a cycle containing test and a progestin (deca, tren, anadrol) is as good as it gets IMO. Treat the ancillaries as preventatives and not cures and they work very well.

As for limiting gains, the contrary is true

 

[Pup'nIrn]

Thanks for the endorsement. There's room here on the soapbox for more than just me. Using a combo of adex/nolva/B6 in appropriate doses during a cycle containing test and a progestin (deca, tren, anadrol) is as good as it gets IMO. Treat the ancillaries as preventatives and not cures and they work very well.

As for limiting gains, the contrary is true

Einstein, For one I agree with your prevention rather than treatment method. The question I have is, since using that method is somewhat limiting gains for someone prone to progesterone gyno, why not use winny in the cycle?

I am a true believer in the combo and don't see many people use its benefits as both anabolic and preventative measures. Why, is it not as effective?

 

[einstein1905]

winny and all DHT-like molecules have weak affinity for progesterone receptors, but not all of the negative actions occur via the progesterone receptors, so winny alone will not solve the problem, although it may for some with lower susceptibility.

I can't tell if you implied that using this combo would limit gains, but if so, my answer is NO, it will not limit gains. the adex and nolva both have opposing effects on IGF-1 (which isn't intramuscular IGF-1 anyway) so there's no validity there. the adex keeps estrogen high but in check, thereby preventing hypertension and poor muscle oxygenation resulting from hypertension. The nolva is the best estrogen antagonst of mammary ERs, thereby being an excellent gyno preventative and also increases HDL and lowers LDL. The adex also lowers SHBG and therefore makes the % of bioavailable AAS that much higher

Einstein, For one I agree with your prevention rather than treatment method. The question I have is, since using that method is somewhat limiting gains for someone prone to progesterone gyno, why not use winny in the cycle?

I am a true believer in the combo and don't see many people use its benefits as both anabolic and preventative measures. Why, is it not as effective?

 

[cathex]

adex?

I too, got sides from Deca and even posted I would never do it again. Well I've learned alot since then, and am using deca right now, with no sides again. This is the second time I've used deca after the dreaded lumps under my nips. Ready for what really works for the prevention of deca sides....adex .25 ED, nolva 10mg ED, B6 300mg ED DURING your cycle. It's not only worked for me, but some friends as well.
And if you don't believe me...ask Einstein1905

Adex? Do you mean Arimidex? Also, what does the B6 300mg ed do?

 

[einstein1905]

Adex? Do you mean Arimidex? Also, what does the B6 300mg ed do?

Yes adex=arimidex=liquidex=anastrozole

B6 reduces prolactin levels, which are increased by tren, deca, and anadrol