Can I run hgh by itself?

[RekTest]

It's a 10 iu vial.

So have I just pinned 2 ius instead of 4?

How many units of bac water then do I need, so every 5 units is 1 iu of hgh?

Thought I calculated this right as 100 units is 1ml which I put 100 units into the vial, then I drew up too 20 units to get 4 ius of hgh?

So like 5 would be 1 iu, 10 would be 2 ius etc mixed with 100 units of bac water in the 10 iu vial?

I pinned 20 units mixed with 100 units/1ml with a 10iu vial.

So how much have I actually pinned?

Download this app, I use it time to time to verify Im not a retard hahah

 

[Training till failure]

5 times 20 units is 100 units, the amount of water you put in.

5 times 4iu would be 20iu total. But it's only a 10iu vial.

So yes, you took half of what you intended.

Better than twice what you intended.

What I did, when I started using peptides, was triple check my calculations using different methods to ensure I didn't make a mistake. Eventually it becomes easy to make the calculations on the fly.

All this maths is new to me and frying my head

Right I do sincerely apologise, as I ain't good at maths

So how many units of bac water should I have added so that every 5 units is 1iu?

Just so I can see how you worked it out and then maybe I'll understand as this is reminding me I'm awful at maths.

 

[bigMoJo]

You're worried about becoming "diabetic" and you're (trying) pinning 4iU from the get-go? You're not going to titrate up, to check your BG response?

I don't think you've done any "research" prior to doing this, or you're just posting to hear what you want to hear. I say this because you didn't read all the posts, as I asked you a question in one where you didn't respond. And, you're jumping into 4iU after all that concern about "insulin," "metformin," "etc."

You need to be able to do simple math. 100 units divided by 10iU = ?

Answer = "10."

Therefore, now on the syringe, every 10 units of reconstitiuted liquid = 1iU hGH.

So if you want 4iU hGH in the syringe, you would go up to what? Answer = "40 units."

You can do what you want, but IMO, this way of doing it is how we get these "horror" stories about bad sides from hGH, etc.

Good luck!

 

[Training till failure]

You're worried about becoming "diabetic" and you're (trying) pinning 4iU fron the get-go? You're not going to titrate up, to check your BG response?

I don't think you've done any "research" prior to doing this, or you're just posting to hear what you want to hear. I say this because you didn't read all the posts, as I asked you a question in one where you didn't respond. And, you're jumping into 4iU after all that concern about "insulin," "metformin," "etc."

You need to be able to do simple math. 100 units divided by 10iU = ?

Answer = "10."

Therefore, now on the syringe, every 10 units of reconstitiuted liquid = 1iU hGH.

So if you want 4iU hGH in the syringe, you would go up to what? Answer = "40 units."

You can do what you want, but IMO, this way of doing it is how we get these "horror" stories about bad sides from hGH, etc.

Good luck!

Yeah this makes sense. Right I was so confused then on how tf I get there as it seems like a lot of bac water to be pinning to me.

So 50 units of bac water would be every 5 units is 1 iu correct?

Think I get it now.

 

[Ghoul]

A lot of things that appear basic to more experienced users can be one of many details that cumulatively overwhelm a newbie.

You often don't know where the holes in your knowledge are.

That said, see how you respond to 2iu for a week or two before moving up. Better to err on the side of too small a dose than too high. Really. There can be real, health endangering consequences from seemingly small errors.

That said, I encourage you to ask anything you're uncertain of, before you do it. Don't be concerned with looking stupid or getting flamed.

If you're really concerned with judgement, DM me and I'll do my best to answer you privately. The mission here is to prevent you from harming yourself, which is always a risk with these compounds. Just ask. The cliche "there are no dumb questions" is very much true here.

 

[bigMoJo]

Yeah this makes sense. Right I was so confused then on how tf I get there as it seems like a lot of bac water to be pinning to me.

So 50 units of bac water would be every 5 units is 1 iu correct?

Think I get it now.

Bro,
The way you mixed/reconstited the bac water & hGH is fine. That's how most everyone is going to mix it ratio-wise. You Forrest Gumped yourself into that correctly.

If you want to be cautious about blood glucose, insulin, etc. you should look into "titrating" up. Meaning, start low and work up on the dosage.

If you pinned 2iU today, that's fine too Forrest. That's a standard starting point. Try that for a couple weeks, then go to 3iU or 4iU while monitoring your levels.

edit: @Ghoul is right. No dumb questions. But, dumb actions = doing it before you ask. My "flaming" you was just to get you to stop and think before you took/take action.

 

[Training till failure]

A lot of things that appear basic to more experienced users can be one of many details that cumulatively overwhelm a newbie.

You often don't know where the holes in your knowledge are.

That said, see how you respond to 2iu for a week or two before moving up. Better to err on the side of too small a dose than too high. Really. There can be real, health endangering consequences from seemingly small errors.

That said, I encourage you to ask anything you're uncertain of, before you do it. Don't be concerned with looking stupid or getting flamed.

If you're really concerned with judgement, DM me and I'll do my best to answer you privately. The mission here is to prevent you from harming yourself, which is always a risk with these compounds. Just ask. The cliche "there are no dumb questions" is very much true here.

Yeah will do.

I'll just stick to 2iu for now and see how I am after 2 weeks. I'll keep an eye on my glucose levels and if it goes out of range I'll discontinue use.

Need it for tonight as I haven't been able to sleep in 4 days.

 

[Training till failure]

Bro,
The way you mixed/reconstited the bac water & hGH is fine. That's how most everyone is going to mix it ratio-wise. You Forrest Gumped yourself into that correctly.

If you want to be cautious about blood glucose, insulin, etc. you should look into "titrating" up. Meaning, start low and work up on the dosage.

If you pinned 2iU today, that's fine too Forrest. That's a standard starting point. Try that for a couple weeks, then go to 3iU or 4iU while monitoring your levels.

Will do.

I'll see how I am on 2ius after 2 weeks and go from there.

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah will do.

I'll just stick to 2iu for now and see how I am after 2 weeks. I'll keep an eye on my glucose levels and if it goes out of range I'll discontinue use.

Need it for tonight as I haven't been able to sleep in 4 days.

Hopefully it helps. It's not a sleeping pill and can have the opposite effect. If i noticed sleep is a major reason for doing this, there are other things you can do that are more effective, and very safer though. Like a low dose Z drug from India pharma.

 

[Training till failure]

Hopefully it helps. It's not a sleeping pill and can have the opposite effect. If i noticed sleep is a major reason for doing this, there are other things you can do that are more effective, and very safer though. Like a low dose Z drug from India pharma.

No so what it is I have autism and learning difficulties.

So recently I went to a GP for a chest infection and to get bloodwork and found out I have an underlying condition of anemia that I've never been informed about and that my body doesn't carry enough oxygen and blood to the muscles and produce more unhealthy red blood cells or something than good ones because I was on 1600mg of testosterone and my thickness of my blood came back just below average which is why it was brought up and everything else was pretty much bang on except my cholesterol was a bit rough, but fixed it now.

So now I'm on eq which puts me at a healthy amount of blood cells and after fixing my diet it all seems to be healthy red blood cells.

Also on test and deca is just for joints.

Might be the dieting that is causing my sleep to be rough, as normally I have to take melatonin as autistic people are more likely to have a mutation in genes regulating melatonin resulting in a “flat melatonin curve.” Thus our bodies often do not feel tired or send the same level of tired cues at night, and we may feel sleepier during portions of the day/upon waking as autism causes irregular melatonin production patterns in the brain pathway signaling.

However this has stopped working all of the sudden and have gone back to having insomnia.

Even tried mixing natural herbal sleep aids with melatonin and that worked for a while and then stopped, then I tried adding in Ashwagandha that helped so much for a good solid month or so, but now the insomnia has come back.

 

[songsofpyramids]

@songsofpyramids
You like your gh and have written a lot about it, but I don't recollect you saying you take it with insulin.
Yes?

I do not use slin actually. I’m not trying to go pro so I always felt the risk wasn’t worth the reward for me personally. That said, I’d be lying if I didn’t say I was very tempted from everything I’ve read. I’ve done 8iu for months with no slin and no bg issues but I was very careful with carbs around injections.

I do love my gh. I’m with Stallone, he said something like “everyone should try a little hgh.”

 

[RandallFlagg]

Hopefully it helps. It's not a sleeping pill and can have the opposite effect. If i noticed sleep is a major reason for doing this, there are other things you can do that are more effective, and very safer though. Like a low dose Z drug from India pharma.

You trusting those India shipping lines still, cause I'm close to "out." (I realize a seized pack isn't the end of the world but...yeah, Im not sure those z drugs are slipping through much anymore).

I hate Zolpidem (tried years ago...so that's old subjective data). Never got around to trying the others...every time i got around to thinking about it, news of increased seizure rates would spike up and keep me from hitting the order button.

 

[iris]

I do not use slin actually. I’m not trying to go pro so I always felt the risk wasn’t worth the reward for me personally. That said, I’d be lying if I didn’t say I was very tempted from everything I’ve read.

I do love my gh. I’m with Stallone, he said something like “everyone should try a little hgh.”

Hi, thank you and happy Thanksgiving.

I only mention it because this guy here is assuming that taking gh will lead him to need insulin and/or becoming diabetic.
If you read his post at the beginning, this is what he says.
I mean, nobody I have come across using gh had any particular issue with bg that could not be dealt with easily, but he seems to have been told otherwise.

 

[Ghoul]

You trusting those India shipping lines still, cause I'm close to "out." (I realize a seized pack isn't the end of the world but...yeah, Im not sure those z drugs are slipping through much anymore).

I hate Zolpidem (tried years ago...so that's old subjective data). Never got around to trying the others...every time i got around to thinking about it, news of increased seizure rates would spike up and keep me from hitting the order button.

I'm hoping things get lost in the Christmas rush....with UAE line now unreliable, and the de minimus shit coming down the pike, it feels like last call for easy India pharma.

 

[Grey Spartan]

Yeah will do.

I'll just stick to 2iu for now and see how I am after 2 weeks. I'll keep an eye on my glucose levels and if it goes out of range I'll discontinue use.

Need it for tonight as I haven't been able to sleep in 4 days.

So what is your fasted glucose before HGH?

Hopefully it helps. It's not a sleeping pill and can have the opposite effect. If i noticed sleep is a major reason for doing this, there are other things you can do that are more effective, and very safer though. Like a low dose Z drug from India pharma.

Ya, the "sleep" benefits was one reason I decided to try HGH. But like most information regarding AAS/PED it is all subjective. It made my sleep worse.

 

[songsofpyramids]

If you read his post at the beginning, this is what he says.

After I read the op I edited my post to say I’d done 8iu for months with no bg issues and no real intervention for bg.

I mean, nobody I have come across using gh had any particular issue with bg that could not be dealt with easily, but he seems to have been told otherwise.

I have never heard of people getting bg issues severe enough that simple interventions such as alpha-lipoic acid or metformin couldn’t fix it unless they have underlying issues already. People with underlying bg issues seem to be getting along fine on gh + glp1 these days from everything I’ve read.

It made my sleep worse.

Made my sleep worse at first too. After a few months of my body adjusting I started getting way better sleep on it than without it. Has experimenting with shot timing helped you in regards to sleep?

 

[iris]

After I read the op I edited my post to say I’d done 8iu for months with no bg issues and no real intervention for bg.



I have never heard of people getting bg issues severe enough that simple interventions such as alpha-lipoic acid or metformin couldn’t fix it unless they have underlying issues already. People with underlying bg issues seem to be getting along fine on gh + glp1 these days from everything I’ve read.



Made my sleep worse at first too. After a few months of my body adjusting I started getting way better sleep on it than without it. Has experimenting with shot timing helped you in regards to sleep?

Sorry I dragged you into this, on a national holiday, lol, but you have been very active on various gh threads so, of course, I thought of you.

Thank you

 

[songsofpyramids]

Sorry I dragged you into this, on a national holiday, lol, but you have been very active on various gh threads so, of course, I thought of you.

Thank you

Happy to help! Hope y’all having a great day with friends and family!

 

[MantisTabogan]

Sorry to hijack a thread - is it possible to draw up several syringes worth and store them in the fridge? I know drawing up each evening is only a minor inconvenience but anything for an easier life and all that

 

[iris]

hate Zolpidem (tried years ago...so that's old subjective data). Never got around to trying the others...

What's it like?
What's the strongest stuff you would get prescribed in the US?