can u run a low dose test e, without any pct?

[mands]

Nope
while AIs block the Aromatase Enzyme quickly,
the body takes a while to get rid of excess Estrogen

Read some Pubmed studies
and you'll see that Aromatase Inhibitors take a few weeks to reach equilibrium, i.e. to drop Estrogen the lowest they can

To make it worse
'Although aromatase inhibition by anastrozole and letrozole is reported to be close to 100%, administration of these inhibitors to men will not suppress plasma estradiol levels completely.'
Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options

Also
Keep in mind that only Testosterone aromatizes (converts) to ESTRADIOL.
Other steroids (i.e. Dianabol) aromatize to Estrogenic derivatives that don't show on blood tests.

You don't want to suppress e2 levels completely... What are you saying?

Please explain this? Only testosterone converts to e2? You are telling me that when my dbol aromatizes it doesn't raise my e2 levels on labs?

mands

 

[Ripped]

You don't want to suppress e2 levels completely... What are you saying?

Please explain this? Only testosterone converts to e2? You are telling me that when my dbol aromatizes it doesn't raise my e2 levels on labs?

mands

He was telling someone to frontload high doses of AI in another thread. Lol

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[WifeBeater]

WOW... you guys really know your stuff. I really appreciate it

 

[Wunderpus]

i could be wrong, but i'm asking because i've heard that as a first time anabolic user shouldn't need pct and is actually not recommended granted the doses are low enough. the theory behind this is that when a exogenous test source is introduced into an virgin (as in no steroid use) bodybuilder, that his endocrine system can bounce back alot easier than say a long time user. the source that i heard this from even stated that it good for you to try and refrain from using pct until it is absolutely necessary. like i said before i could be wrong, and i know you people here are ruthless to noobs, but please tell me if any of you have ever heard of someone doing this?

Back in the day, there was no PCT... So, yes, you COULD recover fine without it. I'd guess it'll take quite a bit longer, and also have a lower success rate. But the real question is, why NOT just PCT to be safe?

 

[WifeBeater]

Back in the day, there was no PCT... So, yes, you COULD recover fine without it. I'd guess it'll take quite a bit longer, and also have a lower success rate. But the real question is, why NOT just PCT to be safe?

i got it on hand but just curious as to how quickly the body would heal on it's on

 

[mands]

i got it on hand but just curious as to how quickly the body would heal on it's on

It really depends on the AAS used, the amount, the duration, the individual, etc.

Some guys younger and older just don't want to do more drugs and skip PCT amd recover on their own. Also, a lot of PCT's fail because the users doesn't know the correct start time and then to continue to add more drugs.

Food for thought.

mands

 

[master.on]

You don't want to suppress e2 levels completely... What are you saying?

Please explain this? Only testosterone converts to e2? You are telling me that when my dbol aromatizes it doesn't raise my e2 levels on labs?

mands

Exactly

Testosterone aromatizes to Estradiol like this
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...g/500px-Testosterone_estradiol_conversion.png

but Dianabol molecule is different than Testosterone
The most important being the Methyl group (-Me in the upper right in this image)
http://www.steroidology.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dianabol-image.jpg


Dianabol aromatization yields a different Estrogen:
Besides converting to 3 double bonds in the A-ring, and Hydroxy ( -OH ) instead of ketone ( =O )
it probably probably keeps said Methyl group in D-ring
thus effectively a different Estrogenic compound than Estradiol.
This one ain't screened for in Estrogen blood tests.

I could draw the possible molecule structure but I still feel groggy from partying so hard last night.