Can you use hgh if you have type 2 Diabetes?

[NewGuy756]

I'm wondering if you should take hgh if you have type 2 Diabetes?

From what I've read the symptoms of hgh or gh agonists tend be be along the line of diabetes.

So, what I am wondering is it a good idea to take 2iu-4iu of hgh if you have type 2 diabetes? Can you just increase the metformin dosage and be good to go or is it a no go type of deal?

 

[Juiced_lizard]

I'm wondering if you should take hgh if you have type 2 Diabetes?

From what I've read the symptoms of hgh or gh agonists tend be be along the line of diabetes.

So, what I am wondering is it a good idea to take 2iu-4iu of hgh if you have type 2 diabetes? Can you just increase the metformin dosage and be good to go or is it a no go type of deal?

Id monitor your sugars closely. Personally I didn’t notice a big difference in sugars or A1C from 2iu to 5iu. Everyone is different. Lot of people take GLP’s also to help with many different aspects sugars being one. I personally take 1000mg metformin a day with tirz and on 5iu HGH a day.

Bigger question is why do you want to take HGH to begin with?

 

[RaddishPork]

I'd focus on why you have type 2 diabetes. Are you overweight or having poor sleep habits? Or is it because of PED use and other factors?

If someone is type 2 diabetic because of obesity or poor health habits, I would not add GH until that has been addressed. Adding a drug that can increase insulin resistance is not a safe gamble before you solve the problem of being insulin resistant.

If someone is on an insulin protocol and has everything dialed in, then it's really up to how much you're willing to risk. It may take an adjustment in doses but there are a lot of people who believe that insulin and GH are much less dangerous than made out to be if used responsibly

As the guy above said, it may be more wise to add something like tirz or sema to help with the insulin resistance. But then you have to ask yourself- do you really want to change your insulin protocol, and start a GLP drug, just to take a few iu of gh every day? I personally wouldn't say that's worth it. Completely dependent on your goals but hgh is one of the least impactful PEDs for the price.

Best case scenario - You get slightly better sleep, can eat a few more calories a day without it getting stored as fat

Worst case scenario - You make the diabetes worse, deal with GH sides, and have to start spending more on insulin or a GLP to keep yourself in check.

 

[NewGuy756]

Id monitor your sugars closely. Personally I didn’t notice a big difference in sugars or A1C from 2iu to 5iu. Everyone is different. Lot of people take GLP’s also to help with many different aspects sugars being one. I personally take 1000mg metformin a day with tirz and on 5iu HGH a day.

Bigger question is why do you want to take HGH to begin with?

Do you have type 2 diabetes?

Why HGH? I'm interested in it's ability to increase recovery time in terms of sleep, workout recovery time, reduced soreness, etc.

I'd focus on why you have type 2 diabetes. Are you overweight or having poor sleep habits? Or is it because of PED use and other factors?

If someone is type 2 diabetic because of obesity or poor health habits, I would not add GH until that has been addressed. Adding a drug that can increase insulin resistance is not a safe gamble before you solve the problem of being insulin resistant.

If someone is on an insulin protocol and has everything dialed in, then it's really up to how much you're willing to risk. It may take an adjustment in doses but there are a lot of people who believe that insulin and GH are much less dangerous than made out to be if used responsibly

As the guy above said, it may be more wise to add something like tirz or sema to help with the insulin resistance. But then you have to ask yourself- do you really want to change your insulin protocol, and start a GLP drug, just to take a few iu of gh every day? I personally wouldn't say that's worth it. Completely dependent on your goals but hgh is one of the least impactful PEDs for the price.

Best case scenario - You get slightly better sleep, can eat a few more calories a day without it getting stored as fat

Worst case scenario - You make the diabetes worse, deal with GH sides, and have to start spending more on insulin or a GLP to keep yourself in check.

This makes a lot of sense thank you for the thoughtful response.

 

[Nidus]

I'd say if youre Type2 Diabetis, run something like Jardiance or pioglitazone along side with it to mitigate effects at the basic level, although i would rather fix the insulin sensitivity before introducing GH.

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Do you have type 2 diabetes?

Why HGH? I'm interested in it's ability to increase recovery time in terms of sleep, workout recovery time, reduced soreness, etc.

No I am not type 2 diabetic. I can’t say HGH has helped with sleep really personally. My sleep schedule is messed up as it is. I do think HgH is worth having around but not an absolute need. Kind of like the “cherry on top” .

What does your A1C run? Are you borderline type 2? Or on the high end? Although I agree with what @RaddishPork said and getting out of type 2 diabetes could be your best bet and with all the GLP’s around which you’d qualify for through insurance I’d assume being diabetic you could knock of a few pounds then start HGH when sugars wouldn’t be as important to worry about but like I said I don’t think 2iu you’d notice much of a increase.

I'd focus on why you have type 2 diabetes. Are you overweight or having poor sleep habits? Or is it because of PED use and other factors?

If someone is type 2 diabetic because of obesity or poor health habits, I would not add GH until that has been addressed. Adding a drug that can increase insulin resistance is not a safe gamble before you solve the problem of being insulin resistant.

If someone is on an insulin protocol and has everything dialed in, then it's really up to how much you're willing to risk. It may take an adjustment in doses but there are a lot of people who believe that insulin and GH are much less dangerous than made out to be if used responsibly

As the guy above said, it may be more wise to add something like tirz or sema to help with the insulin resistance. But then you have to ask yourself- do you really want to change your insulin protocol, and start a GLP drug, just to take a few iu of gh every day? I personally wouldn't say that's worth it. Completely dependent on your goals but hgh is one of the least impactful PEDs for the price.

Best case scenario - You get slightly better sleep, can eat a few more calories a day without it getting stored as fat

Worst case scenario - You make the diabetes worse, deal with GH sides, and have to start spending more on insulin or a GLP to keep yourself in check.

 

[DugPrime]

I'd say if youre Type2 Diabetis, run something like Jardiance or pioglitazone along side with it to mitigate effects at the basic level, although i would rather fix the insulin sensitivity before introducing GH.

How do you like them? I'm looking for an alternative of Metformin, which makes me flat and was also reducing hypertrophy speed rate.

 

[Nidus]

How do you like them? I'm looking for an alternative of Metformin, which makes me flat and was also reducing hypertrophy speed rate.

Jardiance = Makes me pee a lot but fasted glucose levels and overall glucose levels throughout the day dont really spike, after meals they are rather stable and low. Don't feel any loss off fullness whatsoever.
After the first 2-3 weeks on it, the frequent peeing goes away, downside is you drink much more in general and have a dry mouth.

Pioglitazone = Makes you pull a bit more water but given its work mechanism it feels like more glycogen is stored (cant prove, just a feeling) it makes my upperbody slightly fuller. Usually using 1.5g Salt per meal, went down to 1g and managed to mitigate all of this.

Metformin = Nice little addition, everyone knows how it works so not much to add there. Makes me digest things slower, unfortunately nukes my IGF1 entirely. Natural IGF was around 120, with GH about 170 (2.5iu) and now with Metformin its about 42. I take 3g, morning, lunch, evening 1g each.

Those 3 plus Tirza keep my blood glucose throughout the day around 70-80. After a big meal at 100 max. Fasted glucose tends to be around 80.

Running all 4 for at least 2 months while cutting and then go for labs, see how much Homa and Hba1c has improved.
Ofc loosing weight also has a major part in this, currently 8KG down, planned to have at least 15-17KGs down (in total) before i pull labs

Based on past lab works and experience, Cardarine, Clen and Injectable Carnitine also majorly improved my Insulin Sensitivity.

If anyone else has any supplements for Insulin Sensitivity, feel free to tag me or let me know, always eager to learn more about this!

 

[AlexDavis43]

Metformin = Nice little addition, everyone knows how it works so not much to add there. Makes me digest things slower, unfortunately nukes my IGF1 entirely. Natural IGF was around 120, with GH about 170 (2.5iu) and now with Metformin its about 42. I take 3g, morning, lunch, evening 1g each.

Were you still running 2.5 IU GH/d when you took metformin and got IGF1 @ 42 ng/mL?

 

[Nidus]

Were you still running 2.5 IU GH/d when you took metformin and got IGF1 @ 42 ng/mL?

No i was not, only used GH briefly for two cuts for fasted cardio in the mornings and noticed no major difference over a span of 2x8 weeks apart from slightly better sleep so i dropped it