Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals

[rrrocket]

Thank you for the questions.



We do not use an autoclave, rather a large digital oven- it is all that is needed. I am very hesitant to post photos of any of the set up, not because the methods described are untrue, but because it allows competition to learn very easily from Pareto's methods. I can tell you that NO ONE gave us a shred of advice or assistance, and it took a lot of time and money to get things running the way they are. Feel free to PM me and I will explain in as much detail as I am comfortable disclosing. Please take this the way it is intended, I understand posting photos is the norm.

I am not openly sourcing on other boards- this will change in the future.



Thank you. I see you on CJM, CM, etc, nice to meet you.

I am trying to get on with CJM and/or IL, but was told by (CJM) staff after the BT fiasco they are very cautious of who they deal with. Pareto has been exclusively through word of mouth before, and this is our first expansion online. With that being said, our online presence is minimal, and board owners want to see more references before I get the go ahead. It's understandable, although frustrating at times.

I can explain in more detail through PM to you if you wish, I have been quite involved in the Canadian scene for a while.



We have been large scale operational since March 2013.

I stopped going to the Canadian boards once I realized they were trying to discredit labmax testing. So maybe things have changed since then, if so I apologize for raising the following.
But as far As I’m aware of only CJM’s enemies call them a source board. As a rule friends or members in good standing would not do this in public, and you would know better than to do so. Also I’m surprised Zuepas as a CJM vet didn’t mind you openly confirming CJM as a source board.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

How do you know that Zuespas didn't PM Pareto and have a private discussion about that? And is Zuespas some sort of policeman on CJM or something? He's a Vet not a forum cop. Its not up to him to police what others say on an open forum board. I could tell Drago to suck my dick here and there's not a damn thing Zuespas or anyone else can do. Just saying..

 

[ParetoPharma]

How do you know that Zuespas didn't PM Pareto and have a private discussion about that? And is Zuespas some sort of policeman on CJM or something? He's a Vet not a forum cop. Its not up to him to police what others say on an open forum board. I could tell Drago to suck my dick here and there's not a damn thing Zuespas or anyone else can do. Just saying..

I stopped going to the Canadian boards once I realized they were trying to discredit labmax testing. So maybe things have changed since then, if so I apologize for raising the following.
But as far As I’m aware of only CJM’s enemies call them a source board. As a rule friends or members in good standing would not do this in public, and you would know better than to do so. Also I’m surprised Zuepas as a CJM vet didn’t mind you openly confirming CJM as a source board.

I am trying to get on with CJM and/or IL, but was told by (CJM) staff after the BT fiasco they are very cautious of who they deal with. Pareto has been exclusively through word of mouth before, and this is our first expansion online. With that being said, our online presence is minimal, and board owners want to see more references before I get the go ahead. It's understandable, although frustrating at times.

This was meant to be "CM", not "CJM". Hope this clears thing up off the bat.

I wrote another paragraph in regards to CJM, but some things are better left unsaid.

In regards to the labmax testing, for oral tablets I would agree that it is a crap shoot to get proper results. If you have a 250 mg tablet with 10 mg active ingredient in it, crushing the tablet and using the test may not yield the correct results. As for injectable or oral solution products, there should be little to no issue. And the main issue I am concerned with is not whether the hormones are the ones we paid for (once you start dealing with raw hormones, you can tell just by the feel/look/melt point which is which), but the purity. That is melt testing or MS is my preferred method.

 

[rrrocket]

How do you know that Zuespas didn't PM Pareto and have a private discussion about that? And is Zuespas some sort of policeman on CJM or something? He's a Vet not a forum cop. Its not up to him to police what others say on an open forum board. I could tell Drago to suck my dick here and there's not a damn thing Zuespas or anyone else can do. Just saying..

I don’t know shit, just said I was surprised nothing more. If you feel my comment is unwarranted that’s fine, I on this thread looking for any red flags to help protect my Canadian brothers.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

No worries mate. That's just my way of saying hello.

 

[rrrocket]

No worries mate. That's just my way of saying hello.

Hello Northern, I read your posting on the mens health forum, you’re very knowledgeable and have my respect.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Hello Northern, I read your posting on the mens health forum, you’re very knowledgeable and have my respect.

Are you trying to butter me up...cause its working..lol

Thanks brother.

 

[Zuespas]

I stopped going to the Canadian boards once I realized they were trying to discredit labmax testing. So maybe things have changed since then, if so I apologize for raising the following.
But as far As I’m aware of only CJM’s enemies call them a source board. As a rule friends or members in good standing would not do this in public, and you would know better than to do so. Also I’m surprised Zuepas as a CJM vet didn’t mind you openly confirming CJM as a source board.

How do you know that Zuespas didn't PM Pareto and have a private discussion about that? And is Zuespas some sort of policeman on CJM or something? He's a Vet not a forum cop. Its not up to him to police what others say on an open forum board. I could tell Drago to suck my dick here and there's not a damn thing Zuespas or anyone else can do. Just saying..

I am a vet at CJM as well as on two other open source boards. Im not here to discuss the way any message board conducts business or if they chose not conduct business.

I have spoken to pareto and he is a respected member on the canadian boards.

 

[ParetoPharma]

Thank you for the kind words, Zuespas.

 

[biggerben69]

I'm from the US and being so I'm not familiar with the postal service in Canada. You are domestic to Canada and only ship inside Canada. You offer a reship at a 50% discount if that delivery service loses the order...are they the Canadian equivalent to the USPS in the US?
I ask because domestic sources NEVER offer reships for lost packs for domestically shipped packs. The USPS is the accepted way to ship for domestic sources. They will either ship Priority or Express. Both come with tracking #'s. Reships are never mentioned as the tracking # shows where it is. $50 insurance comes with the standard Priority fee and $100 with Express but of course it's never asked for as the contents is illegal and its a Federal Crime to ship illegal drugs.
Is the postal service known to lose packs in Canada?
Also, its common knowledge that using a completely fake return address could raise red flags if a nosey postal employee was to spot it the same way having a pack shipped to an abandoned building would. Customers are encouraged to use an address that they actually are associated with and also to use a name that is associated with the address shipped to.
The return addy a source uses won't be an address where they live or where illegal activity is happening but they will use a real residential address. Are things veru different up there?

 

[Zuespas]

I'm from the US and being so I'm not familiar with the postal service in Canada. You are domestic to Canada and only ship inside Canada. You offer a reship at a 50% discount if that delivery service loses the order...are they the Canadian equivalent to the USPS in the US?
I ask because domestic sources NEVER offer reships for lost packs for domestically shipped packs. The USPS is the accepted way to ship for domestic sources. They will either ship Priority or Express. Both come with tracking #'s. Reships are never mentioned as the tracking # shows where it is. $50 insurance comes with the standard Priority fee and $100 with Express but of course it's never asked for as the contents is illegal and its a Federal Crime to ship illegal drugs.
Is the postal service known to lose packs in Canada?
Also, its common knowledge that using a completely fake return address could raise red flags if a nosey postal employee was to spot it the same way having a pack shipped to an abandoned building would. Customers are encouraged to use an address that they actually are associated with and also to use a name that is associated with the address shipped to.
The return addy a source uses won't be an address where they live or where illegal activity is happening but they will use a real residential address. Are things veru different up there?

Almost identical man! I have lost one package, its pretty rare. My opinion is dont spend money you can't afford to lose.

 

[dacaronebologne]

This guy's customer service was on point, he shipped my package as soon as the money got to him, and it came the next day. Only ordered ancillaries but the aromasin is keeping the bloat down and the gyno away so no complaints.

 

[manic5]

I just went CJM saw the discussion thread relating to this UGL and it was mostly a thread of advertising than actual real reviews.

I have no idea if you're G2G or not, I'm just saying from what I found CJM, it did not instill confidence.

 

[rrrocket]

Excellent point bb69, I’ve ordered from 2 different Canadian domestic sources in the past, both gave me 100% guaranty that my packs would arrive and they did. IMO gambling on the gears quality is enough, it should be a given that you will at least receive your pack without getting hit up for more cash.

 

[rrrocket]

I just went CJM saw the discussion thread relating to this UGL and it was mostly a thread of advertising than actual real reviews.

I have no idea if you're G2G or not, I'm just saying from what I found CJM, it did not instill confidence.

Yes blatant free advertising, but It proves Pareto been around for at least 6 months without any know problems, I give him points for that much.

 

[ParetoPharma]

...I ask because domestic sources NEVER offer reships for lost packs for domestically shipped packs. The USPS is the accepted way to ship for domestic sources. They will either ship Priority or Express. Both come with tracking #'s. Reships are never mentioned as the tracking # shows where it is. $50 insurance comes with the standard Priority fee and $100 with Express but of course it's never asked for as the contents is illegal and its a Federal Crime to ship illegal drugs.

Excellent point bb69, I’ve ordered from 2 different Canadian domestic sources in the past, both gave me 100% guaranty that my packs would arrive and they did. IMO gambling on the gears quality is enough, it should be a given that you will at least receive your pack without getting hit up for more cash.

@rrrocket, I'm not sure if you read BB69's post, but you can see his point is entirely opposite from the one you are trying to make.

The shipping policy is in line with other well established and reputable operations. In the thousands of packages sent out, we have never lost one. I value your input- but you have to understand these rules were not made up on the fly. In fact, one of the biggest labs in the country uses the EXACT SAME shipping policy.

I am looking forward to reviews on the quality of Pareto's products- I feel this is more important to the reader than payment and shipping methods. Thank you for checking us out.

 

[ParetoPharma]

This guy's customer service was on point, he shipped my package as soon as the money got to him, and it came the next day. Only ordered ancillaries but the aromasin is keeping the bloat down and the gyno away so no complaints.

Thank you for the prompt review.

 

[ParetoPharma]

Please accept our new pricing to reflect new market factors. I understand this members may be unhappy, but it is to protect the interest of our reps and prevent market cannibalization.

If you have a previous relationship, your price list will not change- this is for NEW CUSTOMERS ONLY.

Pareto Pharmaceuticals,


Pareto Pharma Discounts:
- 10 vials/bottles+, Take $5 off per each
- 20 vials/bottles+, Take $10 off per each




Injectables [10 mL multidose vial]


testosterone Enanthate (250 mg/mL) - $70

Testosterone Cypionate (250 mg/mL) - $70

Testosterone Propionate (100mg/mL) - $60

Testosterone 400 (400mg/mL) - $85

Sustanon (250mg/mL) -$75

deca durabolin (300mg/mL) - $85

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (NPP) (100mg/ml) - $55

equipoise (300 mg/mL) - $80

masteron Propionate (150mg/mL) - $85

Masteron Enanthate (200mg/mL) - $100

Primobolan (100mg/mL) - $100

trenbolone acetate (100mg/mL) - $80

Trenbolone Enanthate (200mg/mL) - $100

TNT (150 tren e/ 250 test e) - $120


Oral Anabolics [100 tablets/ Bottle]


anadrol (25mg/tab) - $90

anavar (10mg/tab) - $90

D Bol (10mg/tab) - $75

Halotestin (10mg/tab) (50 tabs) = $100

Superdrol (10mg/tab) - $90

T Bol (10mg/tab) - $90

Winstrol (10mg/tab) - $65

Winstrol (25mg/tab) - $100

Proviron (25mg/tab) [*50 Tablets*] - $90


Oral Ancillaries


arimidex (1mg/tab) [50 tablets] - $70

aromasin (12.5mg/tab) [50 tablets] - $70

clomid (25mg/tab) [100 tablets] - $70

letrozole (1.25mg/tab) [100 tablets] - $70

nolvadex (20mg/tab) [ 50 tablets] - $70

Pramipexole (0.5mg/tab) [50 tablets] - $70




Sexual Aids


cialis (20mg/tab) [50 tablets] - $70

viagra (25mg/tab) [ 100 tablets]- $70


weight loss Aids


clenbuterol (100mcg/tab) [100 tablets] - $100




peptides / HGH


Norvotrop HGH – 10iu x 10 vials [100iu] - $450/ kit


Norvo hcg – 5000iu / vial = $85


Misc


Bacteriostatic Water – 10 mL - $5




Thank you.

 

[ParetoPharma]

Just to re-iterate:

Pareto is CANADIAN DOMESTIC ONLY! Packs are only sent within CANADA.

We will not ship to US/UK, etc. Sorry for any perceived notion of the otherwise.

Thank you.

 

[pmac928]

Why have you come to meso? You seem to ship thousands of packs already. Not making enough money ? Greed starting to settle in?