Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals

I mentioned a couple labs they apparently didnt like on there. Posted a couple insights on them. Went back to check the thread the next day and my posts were ghosted
 
I mentioned Pareto once and got banned. Not sure why Pareto is a threat to CJM, now I could care a less. I've moved on.
I mentioned a couple labs they apparently didnt like on there. Posted a couple insights on them. Went back to check the thread the next day and my posts were ghosted

Unless you are saying positive things about Newport on that site they don't want to hear it. Like I said... it's a censored board. If the admins don't like what you have to say, or think you might take business away from their sponsors or whoever, they'll ban you and/or delete your posts
 
I've been on CJM since 2003. I post there off and on. I don't usually do the gear feedback.

Some good people there who are knowledgeable. Gear review isn't the most important thing to me. If you don't have a face to face gym source maybe you're working out at the wrong place...lol.
 
I've been on CJM since 2003. I post there off and on. I don't usually do the gear feedback.

Some good people there who are knowledgeable. Gear review isn't the most important thing to me. If you don't have a face to face gym source maybe you're working out at the wrong place...lol.
Gym source is okay for sure specially for light users but I like to get right from the source cause I do big cycles myself and who doesn't like to get more bang for there buck, we all live a expensive life style
-Gear
-Food
-protein shakes
-vitamins, fish oils, Dim ect ect

My personal feed back is everyone loves there certain lab for an e.x Pareto to Newport to Inno to Orion

People will always have somthing to say from Myself to CDN to Groundfighter (sorry to use you two as examples just I'm new here and seems like you too are respected here)

I'm experiencing with Body Tech right now my boy is a big Newport and inno lover all he believes in but I know guys who love BT

Don't listen to anyone on here or CJM or Northern Muscle Vet Members or not

TEST THE FUCKING GEAR YOURSELF everybody reacts to all different products so
 
the reaction is caused due to something the ugl did or did not do to the gear. All raws come from China. All raws are the same. Enth is enth. Cyp is cyp etc. So there should be no difference in the gear other than what solvents are used to cook it down. This can cause pip but that's about it. So the only reaction will be a bit of pain unless the gear has additives to it that shouldn't be there.

As to testing gear that's why we have forums like this. There are some ugls that scam people so it's good to have this. For example would you purchase from hammer anabolics that are known Scammers? Or how about black widow labs that had hair in a bunch of vials? Yes you should test gear from some labs that are reputable or known. But it is also good to be wary when you hear bad reviews as well. Lots of bad reviews are warranted
 
the reaction is caused due to something the ugl did or did not do to the gear. All raws come from China. All raws are the same. Enth is enth. Cyp is cyp etc. So there should be no difference in the gear other than what solvents are used to cook it down. This can cause pip but that's about it. So the only reaction will be a bit of pain unless the gear has additives to it that shouldn't be there.

As to testing gear that's why we have forums like this. There are some ugls that scam people so it's good to have this. For example would you purchase from hammer anabolics that are known Scammers? Or how about black widow labs that had hair in a bunch of vials? Yes you should test gear from some labs that are reputable or known. But it is also good to be wary when you hear bad reviews as well. Lots of bad reviews are warranted
Well yeah if your gonna put it that way and try to be little me over simple conversation, if your gonna touch a lab that's named after a stained of weed then your an idiot lol (black widow)

Obviously do your research on labs and gear, I always get my gear tested and also exam it under lights. And no UGL or VET lab is perfect Denkal which is a true VET lab has been caught with particles in it.

Anyone brand any company scams I don't care if your buying Innovagen or a fuxking brand new car way the world turns!

Anyone can talk shit bout a lab and give bad review for an example when I first started using few years back Innovagen and Newport in my mind where the best nothing could touch them then with experience i realized it was ever priced shit (inno does have the best underground Var and halo I will admit that)

One thing I know your wrong about is not all raws come from China. I know some provincial BB who have pro cards and make there own products and there stuff is from Thailand

No lab is perfect the gear game in a risky business and Meso can't perfect that I understand why we are all here, well some of us at least most stuff I read sounds like a bunch of school girls lol

I ain't here to knock anyone or any lab, I just speak from my personal experiences and my mind

I'm gonna cook me a striplion for breakfast and eggs ;)

Cheers
 
Gym source is okay for sure specially for light users but I like to get right from the source cause I do big cycles myself and who doesn't like to get more bang for there buck, we all live a expensive life style
-Gear
-Food
-protein shakes
-vitamins, fish oils, Dim ect ect

My personal feed back is everyone loves there certain lab for an e.x Pareto to Newport to Inno to Orion

People will always have somthing to say from Myself to CDN to Groundfighter (sorry to use you two as examples just I'm new here and seems like you too are respected here)

I'm experiencing with Body Tech right now my boy is a big Newport and inno lover all he believes in but I know guys who love BT

Don't listen to anyone on here or CJM or Northern Muscle Vet Members or not

TEST THE FUCKING GEAR YOURSELF everybody reacts to all different products so
I do lean hard on every ugl that comes through Meso. Why ? Because most claim to have great gear , but can't back it up with simple proof.(bloods) If guys are blowing smoke and giving the gtg. You better come strapped with evidence. If not.. I be the first man in lol
 
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I do lean hard on every ugl that comes through Meso. Why ? Because most claim to have great gear , but can't back it up with simple proof.(bloods) If guys are blowing smoke and giving the gtg. You better come strapped with evidence. If not.. I be the first man in lol
Like I said I'll do bloods for yeah, little update for you.

Week 1 I put on 4lbs, and I've been maxing out all week.

(Body Tech) I'm using
 
I do lean hard on every ugl that comes through Meso. Why ? Because most claim to have great gear , but can't back it up with simple proof.(bloods) If guys are blowing smoke and giving the gtg. You better come strapped with evidence. If not.. I be the first man in lol
Like I said I'll do bloods for yeah, little update for you.

Week 1 I put on 4lbs, and I've been maxing out all week.

(Body Tech) I'm using
 
Like I said I'll do bloods for yeah, little update for you.

Week 1 I put on 4lbs, and I've been maxing out all week.

(Body Tech) I'm using

Body tech has the worst reputation of any of the labs in my area. We got some bottles for free from a hurting ass rep and my buddy switched over and felt all his lifts drop after 3 weeks. Total garbage. That's why it's cheap as fuck and no one has heard of it.

You say you feel hot after pinning tren e once? get the fuck out of here. You have signed up just to post about Bodytech it seems... I've seen this before lol
 
Body tech has the worst reputation of any of the labs in my area. We got some bottles for free from a hurting ass rep and my buddy switched over and felt all his lifts drop after 3 weeks. Total garbage. That's why it's cheap as fuck and no one has heard of it.

You say you feel hot after pinning tren e once? get the fuck out of here. You have signed up just to post about Bodytech it seems... I've seen this before lol
Read properly bud not just one post before you run your mouth off!

I clearly said more then once it is too soon obviously!! And 3 weeks eh funny cause products like test e and Tren e take up to 4 weeks or more to fully kick in...
Decca 5 weeks so obviously your a little stunned

Also I want to apologize to Paretro for posting this on your board I thought it. Was on the regular Canadian Domestic board
 
One thing I know your wrong about is not all raws come from China. I know some provincial BB who have pro cards and make there own products and there stuff is from Thailand

No lab is perfect the gear game in a risky business and Meso can't perfect that I understand why we are all here, well some of us at least most stuff I read sounds like a bunch of school girls lol

Cheers

Yeah I'll give you Thailand does make raws. Heard Korea does too. But I doubt any American pharma buys raws from them when China is the better option

And true. No lab is perfect. There can be some flaws in things. But a good lab does its best to ensure that 99% of what goes out is good. But as you stated even pharma grade can have its issues
 
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Yeah I'll give you Thailand does make raws. Heard Korea does too. But I doubt any American pharma buys raws from them when China is the better option

And true. No lab is perfect. There can be some flaws in things. But a good lab does its best to ensure that 99% of what goes out is good. But as you stated even pharma grade can have its issues

I know of one Canadian lab that does and that's why they have such a good rap sheet and there prices are high as fuck

But all of these random labs popping up everywhere in Canada 99% China raws
 
My main concern is the test. if the turinabol is bunk well its not so bad because at least I got the test goin, but if the tbol is good and the test is bunk well then I'm just totally sabotaging myself and making my test levels drop. Its my main concern as its basically just an oral only cycle which fucks people up.
I'm not accusing you of anythuing Pareto, just explaining my worries. I guess I just have to bite the bullet huh.
 
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