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Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals

Hmm....

I bought a few products from pareto as a first time trying this UGL. Myself and 2 other friends have switched mid cycle from another Canadian domestic.

We have all been on cycle 6 weeks and switched to Pareto test E. We ALL went from smooth pinning no issues but some knotting to getting a decently large lump, red, swelling that is hot to the touch. I have tried heating the oil up and no matter what the test just leaves a slight pain after pinning.

Also, I order'd their raloxifene and nolvadex. Before switching to pareto test e I was running 750 test, 300 deca a week with 12.5mg aromasin eod and half a tab of prami. Gyno flaired up like never before and I have been running 50mg ralox and 40mg nolva for 2 weeks and lowered my test to 500. Both of these compounds should bind to the estrogen recepter in the nipple and aid in a decrease in gyno, and they both have done absolutely nothing.

Further more, I bought pareto anavar to try. Admittedly, I have never tried anavar. I often run tbol 40mg on arm and chest days. I have tried anavar at 40mg, nothing but a slight headache. I tried it at 60mg, same thing. I tried 80mg on a empty stomach before arm day and I could barely get a pump? In comparison to literally 20mg of tbol 80mg of anavar does nothing?.... I will also admit I have only tried the anavar for 5 days in a row. I am in a caloric surplus and extremely disappointed to be honest, as I hear great things about anavar. So there are two options here, the anavar is fake. Or 80mg of anavar for my body is not comparable to 40mg of tbol and I am comparing a weaker compound? I will save the rest of the anavar for my cruise and if it does nothing, I know it is 100% fake.

I also ran their masteron 100mg tren 100mg blend. I ran 200mg every other day for about 4 weeks (which is about 300mg of each compound per week). The results were kind lack luster, but I was in a caloric deficit. I did however notice "decent" vascularity and a great shrink wrapped look around my waist that seemed to remove water weight in that area.

At this point I am seriously questioning the reputation of this brand. My ass literally has a golf ball sized swollen knot in it and my friend can barely bend his leg. I will try this gear for another 2 weeks and update my review. It could just be a different type of oil that is bothering myself and my 2 other friends. I will be getting bloodwork in about 5 days to see what my test levels are like.
 
Well, any ugl is as good as the last batch but I have ran their test e few times and never had any issue about pip.

About your issue comparing Tbol to var, I could be wrong but I believe they should give you different results.

Anyway I would talk to your Rep and get it sorted out if possible, good luck man.
 
Well. I'm in a cycle right now, running test c, mast p, superdrol, clen and t3, all Pareto

So far so good, 5 more weeks to go and hoping for 4% of fat going away, hehe
 
CanadianPride said:
Hmm....

I bought a few products from pareto as a first time trying this UGL. Myself and 2 other friends have switched mid cycle from another Canadian domestic.

We have all been on cycle 6 weeks and switched to Pareto test E. We ALL went from smooth pinning no issues but some knotting to getting a decently large lump, red, swelling that is hot to the touch. I have tried heating the oil up and no matter what the test just leaves a slight pain after pinning.

Also, I order'd their raloxifene and nolvadex. Before switching to pareto test e I was running 750 test, 300 deca a week with 12.5mg aromasin eod and half a tab of prami. Gyno flaired up like never before and I have been running 50mg ralox and 40mg nolva for 2 weeks and lowered my test to 500. Both of these compounds should bind to the estrogen recepter in the nipple and aid in a decrease in gyno, and they both have done absolutely nothing.

Further more, I bought pareto anavar to try. Admittedly, I have never tried anavar. I often run tbol 40mg on arm and chest days. I have tried anavar at 40mg, nothing but a slight headache. I tried it at 60mg, same thing. I tried 80mg on a empty stomach before arm day and I could barely get a pump? In comparison to literally 20mg of tbol 80mg of anavar does nothing?.... I will also admit I have only tried the anavar for 5 days in a row. I am in a caloric surplus and extremely disappointed to be honest, as I hear great things about anavar. So there are two options here, the anavar is fake. Or 80mg of anavar for my body is not comparable to 40mg of tbol and I am comparing a weaker compound? I will save the rest of the anavar for my cruise and if it does nothing, I know it is 100% fake.

I also ran their masteron 100mg tren 100mg blend. I ran 200mg every other day for about 4 weeks (which is about 300mg of each compound per week). The results were kind lack luster, but I was in a caloric deficit. I did however notice "decent" vascularity and a great shrink wrapped look around my waist that seemed to remove water weight in that area.

At this point I am seriously questioning the reputation of this brand. My ass literally has a golf ball sized swollen knot in it and my friend can barely bend his leg. I will try this gear for another 2 weeks and update my review. It could just be a different type of oil that is bothering myself and my 2 other friends. I will be getting bloodwork in about 5 days to see what my test levels are like.
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Go get blood work bro
Edit: you don’t need blood work because clearly the test is working well. Maybe ask them to replace the painful test e

Couple things tho when I was on Newport tren e I had the worst gyno... then I took nolvadex and it made it worse! Or at least feel like it. Apparently nolva on tren or deca can make things worse or so I was told by my rep. Anyway I increased my Prami and adex and it helped a ton.

As for Anavar you ran it for 5 days man that isn’t a review

Sorry you had a bad time, i would ask your rep to replace the test e if it hurts that is no fun you can’t train like that. Shouldn’t be an issue
 
CanadianPride said:
Hmm....

I bought a few products from pareto as a first time trying this UGL. Myself and 2 other friends have switched mid cycle from another Canadian domestic.

We have all been on cycle 6 weeks and switched to Pareto test E. We ALL went from smooth pinning no issues but some knotting to getting a decently large lump, red, swelling that is hot to the touch. I have tried heating the oil up and no matter what the test just leaves a slight pain after pinning.

Also, I order'd their raloxifene and nolvadex. Before switching to pareto test e I was running 750 test, 300 deca a week with 12.5mg aromasin eod and half a tab of prami. Gyno flaired up like never before and I have been running 50mg ralox and 40mg nolva for 2 weeks and lowered my test to 500. Both of these compounds should bind to the estrogen recepter in the nipple and aid in a decrease in gyno, and they both have done absolutely nothing.

Further more, I bought pareto anavar to try. Admittedly, I have never tried anavar. I often run tbol 40mg on arm and chest days. I have tried anavar at 40mg, nothing but a slight headache. I tried it at 60mg, same thing. I tried 80mg on a empty stomach before arm day and I could barely get a pump? In comparison to literally 20mg of tbol 80mg of anavar does nothing?.... I will also admit I have only tried the anavar for 5 days in a row. I am in a caloric surplus and extremely disappointed to be honest, as I hear great things about anavar. So there are two options here, the anavar is fake. Or 80mg of anavar for my body is not comparable to 40mg of tbol and I am comparing a weaker compound? I will save the rest of the anavar for my cruise and if it does nothing, I know it is 100% fake.

I also ran their masteron 100mg tren 100mg blend. I ran 200mg every other day for about 4 weeks (which is about 300mg of each compound per week). The results were kind lack luster, but I was in a caloric deficit. I did however notice "decent" vascularity and a great shrink wrapped look around my waist that seemed to remove water weight in that area.

At this point I am seriously questioning the reputation of this brand. My ass literally has a golf ball sized swollen knot in it and my friend can barely bend his leg. I will try this gear for another 2 weeks and update my review. It could just be a different type of oil that is bothering myself and my 2 other friends. I will be getting bloodwork in about 5 days to see what my test levels are like.
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What lab were you running prior to this?
 
@CanadianPride

Why are you running Prami with such a low dose of nandrolone?

Did you have lab results showing high levels of Prolactin?

What was your Estrodial (E2) reading?

Overall, there can be a lot of other contributing factors.
 
CanadianPride said:
Hmm....

I bought a few products from pareto as a first time trying this UGL. Myself and 2 other friends have switched mid cycle from another Canadian domestic.

We have all been on cycle 6 weeks and switched to Pareto test E. We ALL went from smooth pinning no issues but some knotting to getting a decently large lump, red, swelling that is hot to the touch. I have tried heating the oil up and no matter what the test just leaves a slight pain after pinning.

Also, I order'd their raloxifene and nolvadex. Before switching to pareto test e I was running 750 test, 300 deca a week with 12.5mg aromasin eod and half a tab of prami. Gyno flaired up like never before and I have been running 50mg ralox and 40mg nolva for 2 weeks and lowered my test to 500. Both of these compounds should bind to the estrogen recepter in the nipple and aid in a decrease in gyno, and they both have done absolutely nothing.

Further more, I bought pareto anavar to try. Admittedly, I have never tried anavar. I often run tbol 40mg on arm and chest days. I have tried anavar at 40mg, nothing but a slight headache. I tried it at 60mg, same thing. I tried 80mg on a empty stomach before arm day and I could barely get a pump? In comparison to literally 20mg of tbol 80mg of anavar does nothing?.... I will also admit I have only tried the anavar for 5 days in a row. I am in a caloric surplus and extremely disappointed to be honest, as I hear great things about anavar. So there are two options here, the anavar is fake. Or 80mg of anavar for my body is not comparable to 40mg of tbol and I am comparing a weaker compound? I will save the rest of the anavar for my cruise and if it does nothing, I know it is 100% fake.

I also ran their masteron 100mg tren 100mg blend. I ran 200mg every other day for about 4 weeks (which is about 300mg of each compound per week). The results were kind lack luster, but I was in a caloric deficit. I did however notice "decent" vascularity and a great shrink wrapped look around my waist that seemed to remove water weight in that area.

At this point I am seriously questioning the reputation of this brand. My ass literally has a golf ball sized swollen knot in it and my friend can barely bend his leg. I will try this gear for another 2 weeks and update my review. It could just be a different type of oil that is bothering myself and my 2 other friends. I will be getting bloodwork in about 5 days to see what my test levels are like.
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Pretty bold statements here , you run anavar for 5 days and you think it could be fake Really? What are you expecting the var to do? What’s your guys pinning technique?where are you pinning? Are you using a new drawing pin every time ?And you were running another brand for 6 weeks then started on the Pareto? How long have you ran the Pareto for?

I just ran 500mg testE for 12 weeks with 50mg of var the last six , didn’t feel much of the var until about 2 weeks in. I was eating at maintenance level, got vascular as fuck and put on a few pounds . Been off for six weeks at my TRT dose @150 and came in at 27.5nom/L 8 days after my shot (was away) , 125 puts me around 19-20nom/l .

I’ve run there test E and another brand for two years and only had a couple bad shots from error on the placement or moving during the shot.
 
CanadianPride said:
Hmm....

I bought a few products from pareto as a first time trying this UGL. Myself and 2 other friends have switched mid cycle from another Canadian domestic.

We have all been on cycle 6 weeks and switched to Pareto test E. We ALL went from smooth pinning no issues but some knotting to getting a decently large lump, red, swelling that is hot to the touch. I have tried heating the oil up and no matter what the test just leaves a slight pain after pinning.

Also, I order'd their raloxifene and nolvadex. Before switching to pareto test e I was running 750 test, 300 deca a week with 12.5mg aromasin eod and half a tab of prami. Gyno flaired up like never before and I have been running 50mg ralox and 40mg nolva for 2 weeks and lowered my test to 500. Both of these compounds should bind to the estrogen recepter in the nipple and aid in a decrease in gyno, and they both have done absolutely nothing.

Further more, I bought pareto anavar to try. Admittedly, I have never tried anavar. I often run tbol 40mg on arm and chest days. I have tried anavar at 40mg, nothing but a slight headache. I tried it at 60mg, same thing. I tried 80mg on a empty stomach before arm day and I could barely get a pump? In comparison to literally 20mg of tbol 80mg of anavar does nothing?.... I will also admit I have only tried the anavar for 5 days in a row. I am in a caloric surplus and extremely disappointed to be honest, as I hear great things about anavar. So there are two options here, the anavar is fake. Or 80mg of anavar for my body is not comparable to 40mg of tbol and I am comparing a weaker compound? I will save the rest of the anavar for my cruise and if it does nothing, I know it is 100% fake.

I also ran their masteron 100mg tren 100mg blend. I ran 200mg every other day for about 4 weeks (which is about 300mg of each compound per week). The results were kind lack luster, but I was in a caloric deficit. I did however notice "decent" vascularity and a great shrink wrapped look around my waist that seemed to remove water weight in that area.

At this point I am seriously questioning the reputation of this brand. My ass literally has a golf ball sized swollen knot in it and my friend can barely bend his leg. I will try this gear for another 2 weeks and update my review. It could just be a different type of oil that is bothering myself and my 2 other friends. I will be getting bloodwork in about 5 days to see what my test levels are like.
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@CanadianPride , Really no response after calling out a Lab and making these claims ? You have been online since , so what gives ?
 
KMACATTACK said:
I've heard only good things about this lab myself. If I can get my hands on some I'm happy to give it a go. This guys "bad review" is the first I've heard
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I could believe issues but the mast/tren combo, is about one of the best products I've ever used period. If not the best....

Put someone on it for competition... looked amazing on the switch.
Great bang for the buck....

Then I run their aromasin/nova... all the time.
If the Nova was bunk 2 friends wouldn't have had successful pct (bloods post on 1)
 
Currently 7 weeks into my first cycle... test enanthate only...using Pareto and I have pre and mid cycle blood work so far; mid cycle blood work looks decent but I will post so you guys can help me out and analyze it with me. Will post the blood work soon
 
CanadianPride said:
Hmm....

I bought a few products from pareto as a first time trying this UGL. Myself and 2 other friends have switched mid cycle from another Canadian domestic.

We have all been on cycle 6 weeks and switched to Pareto test E. We ALL went from smooth pinning no issues but some knotting to getting a decently large lump, red, swelling that is hot to the touch. I have tried heating the oil up and no matter what the test just leaves a slight pain after pinning.

Also, I order'd their raloxifene and nolvadex. Before switching to pareto test e I was running 750 test, 300 deca a week with 12.5mg aromasin eod and half a tab of prami. Gyno flaired up like never before and I have been running 50mg ralox and 40mg nolva for 2 weeks and lowered my test to 500. Both of these compounds should bind to the estrogen recepter in the nipple and aid in a decrease in gyno, and they both have done absolutely nothing.

Further more, I bought pareto anavar to try. Admittedly, I have never tried anavar. I often run tbol 40mg on arm and chest days. I have tried anavar at 40mg, nothing but a slight headache. I tried it at 60mg, same thing. I tried 80mg on a empty stomach before arm day and I could barely get a pump? In comparison to literally 20mg of tbol 80mg of anavar does nothing?.... I will also admit I have only tried the anavar for 5 days in a row. I am in a caloric surplus and extremely disappointed to be honest, as I hear great things about anavar. So there are two options here, the anavar is fake. Or 80mg of anavar for my body is not comparable to 40mg of tbol and I am comparing a weaker compound? I will save the rest of the anavar for my cruise and if it does nothing, I know it is 100% fake.

I also ran their masteron 100mg tren 100mg blend. I ran 200mg every other day for about 4 weeks (which is about 300mg of each compound per week). The results were kind lack luster, but I was in a caloric deficit. I did however notice "decent" vascularity and a great shrink wrapped look around my waist that seemed to remove water weight in that area.

At this point I am seriously questioning the reputation of this brand. My ass literally has a golf ball sized swollen knot in it and my friend can barely bend his leg. I will try this gear for another 2 weeks and update my review. It could just be a different type of oil that is bothering myself and my 2 other friends. I will be getting bloodwork in about 5 days to see what my test levels are like.
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It's not the anti estrogens that are not working sorry to say, but its the wrong selection of drugs that are the issue here...

Your gyno is likely being caused by progesterone, which raloxifene & nolva wont help. you can take as much ralox & nolva as you want and the deca will continue to swell your nipples until you get on 1 tab prami a day or caber to bring it down then maybe drop to half a day.

Also, try mega dosing vitamin b6, 500mcg per day, its incredible how effective this can be... you can get 250mg pills from walmart Jamieson brand, just pop two beofre bed.

As for the anavar, report back in two weeks, you cant tell anything about a product in 5 days LOL... take a breather and give the drug time to kick in man, if its not working in two weeks then yeah its fake for sure

Later, best of luck
 
I just posted my blood work from my current Pareto test e cycle. If you guys could please go check it out and let me know what you think it would be greatly appreciated!!
 
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1st picture is pre cycle, 2nd picture is mid cycle about 7 weeks in. Test e only. Was dosing 400mg week for 6 weeks then I upped the dose to 500mg/week. Been on 12.5 aromasin EOD. Bloods taken 48 hours after injection. Planning on switching from enanthate to prop for weeks 11-14 the start pct 3 days after last prop injection. Free testosterone levels are almost 7x my normal levels. I stipulate that if I got results now my t levels would be even higher because I upped my dosage. Anyway let me know what you guys think. Hopefully you can see the pictures
 
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