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[Juicemonkeygear]

What's up 3ml I hope life treating you well bro. Your knowledge on gh is profound abd always money I hope these new guys listen to you. Your right about the blacktops i have enough buddies on them and they don't need more than 3-4 iu as they that fucking potent. I too read about its high purity and how some batches tested at 15-18iu per vial and thats insane and you get more for what you pay for. The blacktops or even Mauvetops blow citadel or any other canadian generics out of the water imo. I'll stay on them for life if paretopharma@ keeps stocking them. Fair price too which is also a bonas because it's an investment running gh.

 

[Fattest_animal]

I’d agree with this 100pct

Now, get real GH, Tren, Test and Slin...well now that’s a good time!

So say I do Tren, test and GH (Black tops?) (I don't really want to do Slin), should I post some before and after pictures? lol

 

[WCL]

So say I do Tren, test and GH (Black tops?) (I don't really want to do Slin), should I post some before and after pictures? lol

Don’t do insulin lol

 

[3ml]

So say I do Tren, test and GH (Black tops?) (I don't really want to do Slin), should I post some before and after pictures? lol

LOL
Once again, even with real GH good chance you will be disappointed. I think the word Growth hormone gives people a false sense of hope. Also they see the size of today’s bodybuilders and think wow if I took GH I would be massive too.

I’m not saying don’t do GH but it’s a serious investment. Buying 1 or two kits isn’t going to change you. Run it for a year that’s a different story. This is a significant investment though. Also IMO to extract the most benefit from this compound it needs to be taken with insulin even at a low dose. Put it this way
Say you were to take a cycle. You just did let’s say Anavar. Sure you would get some results. But had you mixed it with Test, and primo...your diet and training was right it would be a whole different result.
Same with GH.

What is your goal with GH? For me when I take it, it’s all about cell splitting and creating new growth. If you want to putz around with 2-3 iu for anti aging purposes at your age ...well I guess go ahead but that’s a pretty expensive addition for very very moderate changes.

If you haven’t even tried tren at this point try it first. What if it causes too many side effects and you hate it? Then you are gonna need to dramatically up the dose of test to squeeze every drop from your GH
My advice is try running tren, see how you do. Try another cycle with 1 plus grams of test. When you know you can handle stuff like this then consider Gh

For GH to be maximized you need:
High dose androgens (tren or Test ideally)
Insulin
High quality GH

Also, blacktops are very good. But they are still a generic. Plus how they have been handled or stored is another concern. They are still not as good as pharma. I’ve spent more money on GH and testing than I care to admit. If I was to do it over again I would have put that money into a rental home or some other investment and been much farther ahead in life and probably still had a similar physique

 

[3ml]

What's up 3ml I hope life treating you well bro. Your knowledge on gh is profound abd always money I hope these new guys listen to you. Your right about the blacktops i have enough buddies on them and they don't need more than 3-4 iu as they that fucking potent. I too read about its high purity and how some batches tested at 15-18iu per vial and thats insane and you get more for what you pay for. The blacktops or even Mauvetops blow citadel or any other canadian generics out of the water imo. I'll stay on them for life if paretopharma@ keeps stocking them. Fair price too which is also a bonas because it's an investment running gh.

Thanks much appreciated. I hope people listen as I’ve spent 40-50k on gh and testing. I had several people tell me what I’m telling people now and I never listened.

 

[Fattest_animal]

LOL
Once again, even with real GH good chance you will be disappointed. I think the word Growth hormone gives people a false sense of hope. Also they see the size of today’s bodybuilders and think wow if I took GH I would be massive too.

I’m not saying don’t do GH but it’s a serious investment. Buying 1 or two kits isn’t going to change you. Run it for a year that’s a different story. This is a significant investment though. Also IMO to extract the most benefit from this compound it needs to be taken with insulin even at a low dose. Put it this way
Say you were to take a cycle. You just did let’s say Anavar. Sure you would get some results. But had you mixed it with Test, and primo...your diet and training was right it would be a whole different result.
Same with GH.

What is your goal with GH? For me when I take it, it’s all about cell splitting and creating new growth. If you want to putz around with 2-3 iu for anti aging purposes at your age ...well I guess go ahead but that’s a pretty expensive addition for very very moderate changes.

If you haven’t even tried tren at this point try it first. What if it causes too many side effects and you hate it? Then you are gonna need to dramatically up the dose of test to squeeze every drop from your GH
My advice is try running tren, see how you do. Try another cycle with 1 plus grams of test. When you know you can handle stuff like this then consider Gh

For GH to be maximized you need:
High dose androgens (tren or Test ideally)
Insulin
High quality GH

Also, blacktops are very good. But they are still a generic. Plus how they have been handled or stored is another concern. They are still not as good as pharma. I’ve spent more money on GH and testing than I care to admit. If I was to do it over again I would have put that money into a rental home or some other investment and been much farther ahead in life and probably still had a similar physique

Thanks a lot for the info @3ml!

I'll be pretty honest with you. I want to become a mass monster when I get into my 40s. Right now I'm 29, turning 30 and want to be aesthetic, athletic and shredded as fuck (or as much as I can)!

This cycle would be like any other cycle: for cutting & lean mass. The reason I want to try GH is because of the sleep, fat loss and healing factors. The tren is so I can get to low calories and not lose muscle mass.

The insuline would be because the GH creates an insuline resistance, correct?

What about t3-t4? I'm only at the early stages of my research, but is it true I should use t4 instead of t3? Since the GH would help me convert it into t3.

Honestly, I don't want to be spoon fed too much, you can just give me some clues and I'll do the research on my own. I'm not in a hurry to do this cycle and before I even pin GH, I want to know everything I need to know about it first. I will thank you in advance if you do keep informing me though.

 

[Juicemonkeygear]

Some good question we hear a lot about through research. I'd like to hear what 3ml has to say on this topic. Also would gh on cycle suffice or would you recommend slin alongside. Keep on mind of the newbies playing with slin and the dangers of insulin.

 

[Fattest_animal]

Some good question we hear a lot about through research. I'd like to hear what 3ml has to say on this topic. Also would gh on cycle suffice or would you recommend slin alongside. Keep on mind of the newbies playing with slin and the dangers of insulin.

From what I understand, GH will help you build muscle, yes, but creates a resistance to insuline sensitivity (over time? time length?) which hinders muscle growth. In other words, you will grow but it wouldn't be as optimal as if you took insuline as well. Why? because it makes up for the lack of insuline caused by the GH.

If the goal is not adding mass, but losing fat, getting better sleep and healing, I don't think insuline is needed.

@3ml am I correct?

 

[Qbanfreak90]

Insulin is not for everyone. You can put a lot of size using gh alone... you need to stay on the whole year and start on the low side with gh -the less you use the better.
If you are planing to use insulin, use humalog but you better know how use it.

 

[Fattest_animal]

At this point, I rather save for a house as I am really close to own one. I'll do some Tren and see how it goes.

 

[rectalrocket]

Anyone here have some experience with Primo?
Aside from the price it seems like a slower but more quality compound with few side effects, and that just sounds lovely to me. Just want some anecdotes
If I could get raw powders through customs...

 

[Juicemonkeygear]

Trying primo for the 1st time ATM and approx 6 weeks in which is very early but I'be been gaining nice quality tissue on a slight cal surplus and have not trained as much as I would like so great bonus it's like I'm making gains with a good high protein diet alone. Affordability was an issue but I budgeted well this year and so far so good. Mind you if it's not primo from a good lab don't touch it. These guys maje everything top notch so I'm not surprised their primo is fucking primo.

 

[Riz]

I just finished my first Tren cycle. Ran Ace for 10 weeks. Why do people waste their time running any other compound? Best cycle I have ever ran.

Just wanted to share my opinion,

Cheers!

 

[ETownSmoke]

For me I love the results from tren but I just can’t handle what it does to my head lol.

 

[CanuckBR]

I just finished my first Tren cycle. Ran Ace for 10 weeks. Why do people waste their time running any other compound? Best cycle I have ever ran.

Just wanted to share my opinion,

Cheers!

I ran 3 cycles of tren, once an year, first no issues only the results, the best, second some mental sides but still great results, third was great results but even I realized I crossed the line many times and I promise my wife to never run it again

Really heavy sides, great results, but I can’t handle the sides, unfortunately

 

[ETownSmoke]

I ran 3 cycles of tren, once an year, first no issues only the results, the best, second some mental sides but still great results, third was great results but even I realized I crossed the line many times and I promise my wife to never run it again

Really heavy sides, great results, but I can’t handle the sides, unfortunately

Yeah for me it had to do with my attitude towards my family, especially my wife. Plus my helper at work has never seen me get upset ( he says I’m the nicest calmest guy he’s ever met ) but on tren, he’s seen me go off the deep end a couple times and just sat there in whole like wow he’s got that in him.

 

[CanuckBR]

Yeah for me it had to do with my attitude towards my family, especially my wife. Plus my helper at work has never seen me get upset ( he says I’m the nicest calmest guy he’s ever met ) but on tren, he’s seen me go off the deep end a couple times and just sat there in whole like wow he’s got that in him.

Exactly same thing here, unfortunately, that shit is good, lol

 

[Freakmidd]

Yeah for me it had to do with my attitude towards my family, especially my wife. Plus my helper at work has never seen me get upset ( he says I’m the nicest calmest guy he’s ever met ) but on tren, he’s seen me go off the deep end a couple times and just sat there in whole like wow he’s got that in him.

I ran 3 cycles of tren, once an year, first no issues only the results, the best, second some mental sides but still great results, third was great results but even I realized I crossed the line many times and I promise my wife to never run it again

Really heavy sides, great results, but I can’t handle the sides, unfortunately

I've had similar experience with attitude.. plus the sweating is unbearable. But I have to agree.. the results were impressive!

 

[Nissan]

I just finished my first Tren cycle. Ran Ace for 10 weeks. Why do people waste their time running any other compound? Best cycle I have ever ran.

Just wanted to share my opinion,

Cheers!

Cool! What was the dosage like?

 

[Riz]

Cool! What was the dosage like?

First three weeks I did 0.5 cc, next three weeks I did 1cc, then finished, off at 1.5 cc. I also ran test prop but kept the dose at 1 cc throughout the cycle