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Same, I do it all the time it actually helps.
canadian mutant
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The fusion test E 250 is giving me horrible pip. My vials getting low, maybe I’ll switch to the Cyp and see how that goes
Good move.
Dont know what it is these days with Test E.
I'll run a DHB/Primo/Prop cocktail and get next to zero PIP.
Test E and I'm a cripple.
And that's for a lot of the major Canadian UGLs
I can run everyones Cyp or prop with no PIP, but Test E fucks me up brother.
canadian mutant
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That is very Interesting
I was thinking maybe it was just the lab as it’s a new lab
I grabbed a couple vials of the cyp, gonna pin some tonight without the Tren E And see how the pip is .
muscletrain
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If the lab is new I would err on the side of it being an issue with their brew over Test E itself. Some people have issues with Test E but I wouldn't say it's common. I've used Innovagen/Pareto/SYN Test-e and they all had probably about a 0 or maybe a 1 on the pain scale out of 10.
Unless this is your very first time using test e.
Even Inno messed with me
Same with Pareto and Genetec
But all of their Cyp treats me well.
Pure bioscience lol
But it's how it is for me.
muscletrain
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PIP scale for me probably went from most PIP to least
Inno
Pareto
SYN
and that's not saying any of them were even close to bad. I just grabbed some SYN Test U 200mg thinking of transferring my TRT to that for the 1 shot a week.
Inno Test E was pretty bad.
But their cup had absolutly zero for me.
Pareto was maybe 2/10 pIP on the E
Havnt tried SYN in a LONG time.
you're going to love the Test U
currently running 200mg Test U, I oh 2x a week, VERY stable bloods.
The only reason I'm pinning 2x a week is because I like to dilute my primo with a little TestU, with 1ml Primo and .5Test U.... I literally forget which site I just pinned, zero PIP on anything I pin
canadian mutant
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I was using syn products for a few years, always smooth. Never had any pip off testE before...except my 1st pin ever when I had horrible pip for like a week lol moved the pin around way too much in my ass cheek
u guys got more info on Dynamic? They been around ? Are a lot of the users in Ontario ?
muscletrain
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Never heard of Dynamic unless you mean Dynamite Raws? Typically east coast local crap that comes out of Quebec or even Ontario that I've never heard of is some local gym junk.
The big boys in Canada are pretty much Pareto/SYN/Innovagen or atleast the only ones I feel comfortable buying from. Theres a bunch of mid-to smaller sized labs with decent reps as well.
I mainly stick with Pareto/SYN as I don't have a direct Inno rep so its super overpriced for me.
EazyE
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Cyp seems to be preferred by many, including myself. Very little PIP, if any, when using Cypionate.
Inno is a bit overpriced even with a direct rep lol
MisterSuperGod
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Bodytech, bro. Bodytech.
The greatest underground steroid lab since the advent of underground steroid labs.
"Hey, bro. What's the best gearz in CA?"
The answer is always the same...
Bodytech!
(Insert eye roll emoji, tongue sticking out emoji and smiley face emoji here, here and here.)
muscletrain
Member
Only thing I use from them in recent years is the Inj. L-carnitine and I think I'm gonna venture down "brewing" my own since its easy as shit with just BA + Car base + water + syringe filter
I'm hearing a lot about injectable Carnitine lately.
Mind a bit of spoon feeding?
What do you personally use it for?
What kind of effects do you see?
I'm assuming you use it in cruise etc (When not on blast)
Am i remembering correctly that you trolled CJM for a while with pro Bodytech posts?
Fucking hilarious
muscletrain
Member
John Meadows has a great write up on what Carnitine does and why its beneficial I personally feel as a non PED its one of cheapest best things to take. Helps with fat mobilization, gives an insane pump and veins with carb meal and or insulin.:
Since its behind a paywall on his size scroll down and you'll find his article in this link:
I either do:
GH + Inj. Carnitine @ 500mg fasted before cardio in the morning or 500mg after a meal before lifting for a nice pump.
I use it pretty much whenever I have it, you can either brew it yourself or get a nice 500mg/ml from Innovagen that is pain free. Most people say for fat loss though say it really shines when you are in that struggle mode at single digit bodyfat so don't expect some amazing feeling/results from carnitine alone.
So I use it for whatever fat loss mobilization it may help as well as the nice pump thats hard to beat. Some people think hes a douche but that more plates more dates guy breaks down how it's beneficial for androgen signalling as well?
Hopefully that sheds some light on why its used. Also oral L-carnitine bioavailability is horrible and I think banging enough oral carnitine is not a good idea because I think it raises TMAO levels dont quote me on this last part but theres a deleterious reason why oral carnitine besides bioavailability.
John Meadows has a great write up on what Carnitine does and why its beneficial I personally feel as a non PED its one of cheapest best things to take. Helps with fat mobilization, gives an insane pump and veins with carb meal and or insulin.:
Since its behind a paywall on his size scroll down and you'll find his article in this link:
I either do:
GH + Inj. Carnitine @ 500mg fasted before cardio in the morning or 500mg after a meal before lifting for a nice pump.
I use it pretty much whenever I have it, you can either brew it yourself or get a nice 500mg/ml from Innovagen that is pain free. Most people say for fat loss though say it really shines when you are in that struggle mode at single digit bodyfat so don't expect some amazing feeling/results from carnitine alone.
So I use it for whatever fat loss mobilization it may help as well as the nice pump thats hard to beat. Some people think hes a douche but that more plates more dates guy breaks down how it's beneficial for androgen signalling as well?
Hopefully that sheds some light on why its used. Also oral L-carnitine bioavailability is horrible and I think banging enough oral carnitine is not a good idea because I think it raises TMAO levels dont quote me on this last part but theres a deleterious reason why oral carnitine besides bioavailability.
I'll take a look at that link for sure.
Might be nice to try while on cruise, since it requires a decent bit of pinning.
Looks pretty cool, to quote that link you put down.
"Stephens group undertook a variety of different studies that look into this mechanism and then how to apply it. These studies direct us to the optimal protocols for raising cellular carnitine concentrations. The experiment showed that a combined carnitine insulin infusion could raise cellular carnitine concentrations, showing a 15% increase of muscle carnitine, decreased PD activity by 30% and 40% decrease in muscle lactate, while long chain acetyl-CoA increased 30% and muscle glycogen increased by 40"
Those are are fucking CRAZY increases lol
40%decrease is muscle lactate?
Muscle glycogen by 40?
Damn,going to have to email my Inno rep lol
muscletrain
Member
Yeah Inj. Carnitine is great year round tbh. the Innovalean even says 500mg EOD if you dont want to do it but I run 500mg a day and am gonna try 1g PWO with carbs to see how freaky it gets lol.
I actually have to order more as I'm too lazy to brew the big batch. I think the cheapeast I can find it is $25 for a 10ml vial of 500mg.
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