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Wow that was sincere. It creates the opposite effect because now I really want to listen to you! :)

Lol thanks

That being said,
There is still so much stuff we truly cant understand without research that just wont happened.
(Like the effects on SARMs used in conjunction with supraphysiological levels of T)

I hate it but we have to rely on anecdotal experience on occasion.

That being said, I could very easily be a shill, a liar or a fool.

Sometimes I am a fool, depends on the day really.
 
There is still so much stuff we truly cant understand without research that just wont happened.
You think so?! There is A LOT of stuff going on in the world with 7,500,000,000+ people and there has been pretty crazy experiments and studies performed previously. The information is out there you just need to look and find it.

No idea is original, anything you have thought has been thought before. And there has been some crazy people throughout the times, find their stuff. We humans have always loved documenting things and our own personal stories. Your favorite book is still out there waiting to be read!
 
You think so?! There is A LOT of stuff going on in the world with 7,500,000,000+ people and there has been pretty crazy experiments and studies performed previously. The information is out there you just need to look and find it.

No idea is original, anything you have thought has been thought before. And there has been some crazy people throughout the times, find their stuff. We humans have always loved documenting things and our own personal stories. Your favorite book is still out there waiting to be read!

Agreed

However, what I'm referring to is something akin to a conversation I had with @3ml
A 2 day oral rotation between say... Adrol and Dbol.
You'll NEVER see a legitimate medical study on that.
The doctor would lose their lice se for even suggesting phase 1 trial along those lines.

Certainly, we can get great information from other members and individuals around the world, but clinical?
Nope

Other than that, I can agree with your assertion.
 
Agreed

However, what I'm referring to is something akin to a conversation I had with @3ml
A 2 day oral rotation between say... Adrol and Dbol.
You'll NEVER see a legitimate medical study on that.
The doctor would lose their lice se for even suggesting phase 1 trial along those lines.

Certainly, we can get great information from other members and individuals around the world, but clinical?
Nope

Other than that, I can agree with your assertion.

Can't find the conversation you are referring to. I don't like saying the word "never."

You have to take into consideration the way studies are designed as well. Why would the two drugs be alternated like that? Or please explain what exactly it is you are looking for?
 
Can't find the conversation you are referring to. I don't like saying the word "never."

You have to take into consideration the way studies are designed as well. Why would the two drugs be alternated like that? Or please explain what exactly it is you are looking for?

Just interesting conversation is all.
When you stop looking to improve yourself and your knowledge, you may as well just die.
 
Just interesting conversation is all.
When you stop looking to improve yourself and your knowledge, you may as well just die.
Yesterday as I went to get into my car I imagined a truck coming and smashing my door leaving me paralyzed.

How do you deal with that? Not being able to move for the rest of your life? Are you okay with that? You have spent tons of time and work for your body. How do you think you would deal with losing that?

Can you still live life to the fullest when you are paralyzed?

When you are improving yourself, who are you doing it for? Yourself? So you can become "good" at something is that the point?
 
Yesterday as I went to get into my car I imagined a truck coming and smashing my door leaving me paralyzed.

How do you deal with that? Not being able to move for the rest of your life? Are you okay with that? You have spent tons of time and work for your body. How do you think you would deal with losing that?

Can you still live life to the fullest when you are paralyzed?

When you are improving yourself, who are you doing it for? Yourself? So you can become "good" at something is that the point?

Naw,
I have a deal with some guys to off me if I get into a situation like that.

Death isnt particularly worrisome once you've had enough brushes with it.

Insursnce would pay out HARD and my family would be taken care of, and I'd be dead, so who cares?

improvement, doesnt necessarily mean "good at something"
Better person, more knowledgeable, richer, more able to provide for your family, happier.

Whatever floats your boat
 
Naw,
I have a deal with some guys to off me if I get into a situation like that.
Stephen Hawking lived his whole life without a being able to move. The only thing I know about you is from your mind I know nothing about your body or if you even have one. You could be paralyzed right now, and we wouldn't know.

Death isnt particularly worrisome once you've had enough brushes with it.
How do you think about death? I visualize my dead body and people moving it, that doesn't sit right with me. I imagine somebody being rough with my body, throwing it around like it's trash. But I guess it is though huh?
 
Stephen Hawking lived his whole life without a being able to move. The only thing I know about you is from your mind I know nothing about your body or if you even have one. You could be paralyzed right now, and we wouldn't know.


How do you think about death? I visualize my dead body and people moving it, that doesn't sit right with me. I imagine somebody being rough with my body, throwing it around like it's trash. But I guess it is though huh?

Lol, I am by no means Stephen Hawking

I actually have a running joke with my family and friends.
When I die, save the money for a casket and s funeral.
Throw me in the nearest ditch and call it a day.
Wtf do I care? I'm dead. lol
 
Lol, I am by no means Stephen Hawking

I actually have a running joke with my family and friends.
When I die, save the money for a casket and s funeral.
Throw me in the nearest ditch and call it a day.
Wtf do I care? I'm dead. lol
I do say similar : just throw me in the lake Ontario ... or Caribbean Sea
 
Agreed

However, what I'm referring to is something akin to a conversation I had with @3ml
A 2 day oral rotation between say... Adrol and Dbol.
You'll NEVER see a legitimate medical study on that.
The doctor would lose their lice se for even suggesting phase 1 trial along those lines.

Certainly, we can get great information from other members and individuals around the world, but clinical?
Nope

Other than that, I can agree with your assertion.
I remember that discussion a couple months back. We were entertaining the idea of rotating orals every 2 days on cycle. I know a couple guys that rotated adrol and Winny with decent results - albeit anecdotal evidence as to the effectiveness of this protocol.
 
Not to derail the topic,

But does anyone know if they test for PEDs in amateur boxing or mma?

I've been thinking about joining a local boxibg/mma club and training for an amateur fight, but I'm hesitant due to my PED use.

Thanks gents
 
Yesterday as I went to get into my car I imagined a truck coming and smashing my door leaving me paralyzed.

How do you deal with that? Not being able to move for the rest of your life? Are you okay with that? You have spent tons of time and work for your body. How do you think you would deal with losing that?

Can you still live life to the fullest when you are paralyzed?

When you are improving yourself, who are you doing it for? Yourself? So you can become "good" at something is that the point?
It's all a matter of perception. Thinking of something in a new light causes a physiological response in the brain. Changes the hardwired beliefs/values/behaviours. How are you going to choose to see the world when you can't walk the rest of your life, and you have to sit it out?
 
Not to derail the topic,

But does anyone know if they test for PEDs in amateur boxing or mma?

I've been thinking about joining a local boxibg/mma club and training for an amateur fight, but I'm hesitant due to my PED use.

Thanks gents

If it's just local amateur stuff atleast where I'm from there is no way in hell they test anyone for PEDs but I'd look into whatever one you want to fight in. But here the biggest culprits and everywhere else is the BJJ guys lol. You should have no issue fighting in anything local amateur on gear.
 
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