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[Jet Labs]

Honestly i use meso, im sure a guy could get a few bucks off , with other sources, but i Honestly like the rep hear, solid guy always on point, i Honestly turned down a another syn rep , because i originally went with meso, and ill keep that contact.
If you can't afford labs, or a few extra bucks then really you shouldn't be using gear.

Iv ran pharam labs against ugl syn, and its deadly how on point it is, i also notice that other labs oils change color after popping the seal, its very odd that i haven't noticed syns gear change color, im not sure even if thats a good statment, or if its just the different carrier oils, or what, but i haven't noticed a color change, maybe it gets used faster then the other stuff i have, so dont quote me exactly on that aspect.

As far as the price, i got inno online the other day, just because i needed hcg fast with no min order, and i dont have a inno rep to begin with so i said fak it ill try online for shits and giggles, got some prop and hcg, really wasnt bad $ for online shit, and was only 4 days ship so hell ill take it. I think theres a place for online shit especially if you dont wanna piss of your rep with low orders.

The guys that say its way over priced, i dont think they think about the quality control the lab equipment,i mean yeh you can go buy gear for half the price out of a barn...... or you can pay the price for as close as safe to pharma as you can get.

Syn is my go to as close to pharma.
Id say pareto 2nd.
Genetic , had good quality gear great rep as well but i hate capsules, so that looses me.
Ill consider inno , after a few rounds and will see how it goes, obviously the online is a bit more but ill rate accordingly, too early to tell. And only hcg and prop at moment.

I've never heard of or seen the carrier oil change color so no clue what you be speaking of and I've been brewing 20+ years and never out of a barn lol. Lots of big labs have started and are still run out of basement operations and if you think otherwise you are wrong sir lol.

I'm a homebrewer for myself and friends and I take quality and safety rather seriously and that has zero to do with cost per item.

 

[Harley00]

I've never heard of or seen the carrier oil change color so no clue wtf you be speaking of and I've been brewing 20+ years and never out of a barn lol. Lots of big labs have started and are still run out of basement operations and if you think otherwise you are wrong sir lol.

I'm a homebrewer for myself and friends and I take quality and safety rather seriously and that has zero to do with cost per item.

Well iv seen 2 labs oils change color after opening, both top labs. I wont discuss those labs though. As i dont think that effects there quality.

As far as barn gear. If your reputable then your reputable. But remeber we dont see labs or basements, therefore have no idea where were getting the gear from. Mayeb they did start out in a basment or barn, maybe there still there, and maybe there not.

No labs going to tell you they dont take safety seriously. And i dont see guys posting there lab equipment and there work area often.
I do however see some peptide labs showimg there labs and equipment, and im impressed.

So we judge by testing and labs. If a lab is producing gear thats too strong, then its not quality, if its too weak them its not quality, in my opinion bit obviously alot of factors go into it, but afyer dialing in on pharma then a guy can generally get a good idea.

But nope, i dunno where its made if its not pharma.

Bt is a good example of barn gear. Or beard gear.. i mean too have that shit quality gear where do you suppose its made? Do you trust that gear and lab setting. Thats the point im making.

You can homebrew and be completely sterile, where the next guy may not, we as costumers dont really know that? We just go with who has quality oil, and good labs to prove it.

 

[Jet Labs]

Well iv seen 2 labs oils change color after opening, both top labs. I wont discuss those labs though. As i dont think that effects there quality.

As far as barn gear. If your reputable then your reputable. But remeber we dont see labs or basements, therefore have no idea where were getting the gear from. Mayeb they did start out in a basment or barn, maybe there still there, and maybe there not.

No labs going to tell you they dont take safety seriously. And i dont see guys posting there lab equipment and there work area often.
I do however see some peptide labs showimg there labs and equipment, and im impressed.

So we judge by testing and labs. If a lab is producing gear thats too strong, then its not quality, if its too weak them its not quality, in my opinion bit obviously alot of factors go into it, but afyer dialing in on pharma then a guy can generally get a good idea.

But nope, i dunno where its made if its not pharma.

Bt is a good example of barn gear. Or beard gear.. i mean too have that shit quality gear where do you suppose its made? Do you trust that gear and lab setting. Thats the point im making.

You can homebrew and be completely sterile, where the next guy may not, we as costumers dont really know that? We just go with who has quality oil, and good labs to prove it.

Huh well oil changing color is new to me, but I'd guess it's oxidation or some other chemical reaction. And yes nobody knows where the ugl stuff is being brewed until a lab gets busted and the pics get posted all over the net. There's been a few labs over the years who had high praise and then the lab pics were just basement operations. And quality is quality imho, if 2 different labs test-e are both dosed proper, sterile and painless they are of equal quality and just because one is more expensive doesn't make it better gear.

 

[Fittrader]

let’s be real there’s no university that’s renting out their lab to someone to make gear lol

 

[Harley00]

Ok, so theres a difference between ugl, and peptides, but let's just look at this, canlab peptides cost more then any other peptides, but this is the equipment there using, and lab space. They charge more but there products are on point.

but would you pay more for peptides that are made in a facility like this vs a basment lol or a barn that sells for half the price.... lets say there the same quality peptide but the safety of the environment isnt as good. What would you pick or pay , again this is for conversation, not pickin at home brew, im just saying we really dont know where things are made, but myself i wanna belive top labs have top equipment....maybe not.

Iv never seen a top lab running in canada in the last 10 years get busted , where they showed there lab. And is it the actual lab or are they just re sellers getting busted for rec drugs.

Regardless, this is a kick ass lab.

I also trust the lab I choose is not into any req drugs so theres no cross contamination, can't prove that till labs get busted, but labs that are trusted , id expect are not into req drugs.

 

[Cashton]

Ok, so theres a difference between ugl, and peptides, but let's just look at this, canlab peptides cost more then any other peptides, but this is the equipment there using, and lab space. They charge more but there products are on point.

but would you pay more for peptides that are made in a facility like this vs a basment lol or a barn that sells for half the price.... lets say there the same quality peptide but the safety of the environment isnt as good. What would you pick or pay , again this is for conversation, not pickin at home brew, im just saying we really dont know where things are made, but myself i wanna belive top labs have top equipment....maybe not.

Iv never seen a top lab running in canada in the last 10 years get busted , where they showed there lab. And is it the actual lab or are they just re sellers getting busted for rec drugs.

Regardless, this is a kick ass lab.

I also trust the lab I choose is not into any req drugs so theres no cross contamination, can't prove that till labs get busted, but labs that are trusted , id expect are not into req drugs.

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Tbh without all this fancy equipment, you likely couldn’t make peptides, so the odds of someone doing that in a basement or a barn, as opposed to someone brewing gear in a basement/barn are a lot less likely than the latter. I also don’t think that much of that fancy equipment they have for their peptide stuff would be useful in the brewing process anyways for a lab, except for the clean room, that would be great for any lab brewing stuff and would be a fair example for what I think would separate a top tier lab from a low tier lab.

 

[graciebjj]

@Harley00 I hear what you're saying and it looks like if that's CanLabs set up then they put some money into it, but peptides cant be made in a barn or basement. When you're running a fully legal set up obviously you can build a space out like this. UGLs don't have the luxury of building that space out for the most part. I always picture it more like Breaking Bad when Walt and Jesse are cooking meth in random houses that are being fumigated, gotta keep moving!

 

[Harley00]

I've never heard of or seen the carrier oil change color so no clue what you be speaking of and I've been brewing 20+ years and never out of a barn lol. Lots of big labs have started and are still run out of basement operations and if you think otherwise you are wrong sir lol.

I'm a homebrewer for myself and friends and I take quality and safety rather seriously and that has zero to do with cost per item.

So this is a top lab, masteron, you can easily see this color change, i heated and did everything i thought would bring the color back., i actually thought maybe it crashed, but was later told its perfectly fine, and opened gear can do this, and something to to do with air or something, i havent home brewed for 20 + years like you have, so this isnt normal? Iv had this happend to 2 different labs.

Again ill keep the lab private, as im not that type of guy.

 

[Harley00]

@Harley00 I hear what you're saying and it looks like if that's CanLabs set up then they put some money into it, but peptides cant be made in a barn or basement. When you're running a fully legal set up obviously you can build a space out like this. UGLs don't have the luxury of building that space out for the most part. I always picture it more like Breaking Bad when Walt and Jesse are cooking meth in random houses that are being fumigated, gotta keep moving!

Lol, me too but i really wanna hope for a decent setup lololol with good labs, again im just making conversations, im not lab material lol

 

[Fittrader]

So this is a top lab, masteron, you can easily see this color change, i heated and did everything i thought would bring the color back., i actually thought maybe it crashed, but was later told its perfectly fine, and opened gear can do this, and something to to do with air or something, i havent home brewed for 20 + years like you have, so this isnt normal? Iv had this happend to 2 different labs. View attachment 148236

Again ill keep the lab private, as im not that type of guy.

The guy who home brews also said his aromasin was clen so I wouldn’t take what he says as Absolute truth lol my 2 cents

 

[Cashton]

The guy who home brews also said his aromasin was clen so I wouldn’t take what he says as Absolute truth lol my 2 cents

So what?

edit: this was meant to say “say what?”

 

[Fittrader]

So what?

Do you think a lab would put clen in their AI?

that’s my opinion lol don’t have to agree

 

[Cashton]

Do you think a lab would put clen in their AI?

that’s my opinion lol don’t have to agree

Sorry that meant to say “say what?” My bad! Lol.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Ok, so theres a difference between ugl, and peptides, but let's just look at this, canlab peptides cost more then any other peptides, but this is the equipment there using, and lab space. They charge more but there products are on point.

but would you pay more for peptides that are made in a facility like this vs a basment lol or a barn that sells for half the price.... lets say there the same quality peptide but the safety of the environment isnt as good. What would you pick or pay , again this is for conversation, not pickin at home brew, im just saying we really dont know where things are made, but myself i wanna belive top labs have top equipment....maybe not.

Iv never seen a top lab running in canada in the last 10 years get busted , where they showed there lab. And is it the actual lab or are they just re sellers getting busted for rec drugs.

Regardless, this is a kick ass lab.

I also trust the lab I choose is not into any req drugs so theres no cross contamination, can't prove that till labs get busted, but labs that are trusted , id expect are not into req drugs.

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Nice equipment

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Might switch my supplier for peptides

I use Canadapeptide (Without an S, fuck Canadapeptides and their yellow GH lmao)

I just found a floater/gunk on the inside of a vial of MT2
I'll post up some pics later.... I wont be using them in the future

 

[graciebjj]

So this is a top lab, masteron, you can easily see this color change, i heated and did everything i thought would bring the color back., i actually thought maybe it crashed, but was later told its perfectly fine, and opened gear can do this, and something to to do with air or something, i havent home brewed for 20 + years like you have, so this isnt normal? Iv had this happend to 2 different labs. View attachment 148236

Again ill keep the lab private, as im not that type of guy.

I think this happens more with the clear carrier oils like MCT. You just don't notice it in grapeseed or cottonseed because they already have their own distinct hue. I've had Tren in GSO or CSO (can't remember which) change colour over time. Like Test E in MCT will be totally clear when you first get it but can take on a bit of a yellow hue over time. I'm not sure if oxidation is the cause though

 

[Harley00]

I think this happens more with the clear carrier oils like MCT. You just don't notice it in grapeseed or cottonseed because they already have their own distinct hue. I've had Tren in GSO or CSO (can't remember which) change colour over time. Like Test E in MCT will be totally clear when you first get it but can take on a bit of a yellow hue over time. I'm not sure if oxidation is the cause though

Intresting, yeh this is gso oil so not sure. I haven't tryed mct, unless im gettimg mct and not knowing lol

 

[3ml]

They are both overpriced imho, but something's worth is what people are willing to pay for it!

I don't know why people say this.
Most guys have no idea how good you have it in Canada.

Yeah you can go on with the same bs BT does...oh it cost xx amount to make a vial.

Cool homebrew it yourself then.

These labs take alot of risk, hold alot of inventory, are held accountable by the community.

They offer every product under the sun and you can have your shit in under a week.

Oh...btw
They are cheaper than fucking pharma so wtf are people saying they are overpriced for.

Fuck people get on my nerves

 

[BigNJ]

Anyone who trusts ANY lab is a fool!
Without starting any fucking shit here, I did test few labs. I tested 3 top labs on here. I chose products where some people and myself suspected something wasn't right.
1 very popular lab here did not give the results I was expecting. Very fucking disappointing. Another issue is the carrier oil certain labs use. Unusual reactions have been reported to which I have experienced myself.

Continued lab testing needs to be done. Trusting a lab blindly is not the way to go. Maybe few of us need to start sending blind samples to Jano or whomever and post results here.

Testing was done in the US, very reputable place.

 

[Harley00]

Anyone who trusts ANY lab is a fool!
Without starting any fucking shit here, I did test few labs. I tested 3 top labs on here. I chose products where some people and myself suspected something wasn't right.
1 very popular lab here did not give the results I was expecting. Very fucking disappointing. Another issue is the carrier oil certain labs use. Unusual reactions have been reported to which I have experienced myself.

Continued lab testing needs to be done. Trusting a lab blindly is not the way to go. Maybe few of us need to start sending blind samples to Jano or whomever and post results here.

Id like to see these test, and these labs tested, did you make a thread about this anywhere we can all look at?