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[Jankauskas]

this doesn't make you a tough guy, it just makes you a shitty person. There's nothing soft about having empathy.

Also no one here seems like their feelings are hurt, they're just trying to get you to elaborate on your ridiculous claims. It's not going well since you can't give a straight answer to anything.

That being said I know vaccines are a sensitive topic these days so I won't hold it against you. This country needs less infighting and more reason. Used to be that people could disagree on shit and still get along

I never said it made me a tough guy,
I don’t care if you think I’m a good person or not, neither do I care about being a good person or not. Also, I don’t give a shit about your opinion about me.

You’re just another left leaning idiot playing along the narrative that the government gave you, either because you feel the need to virtue signal, or because you believed them got vaccinated, and now you’re scared to face the music, but it doesn’t matter, it’s coming and you can’t run away from it, it’s just a matter of time.

You also mentioned in your post that I’m making ridiculous claims…

Do you remember one year ago, when “conspiracy theorists” made the ridiculous claims that this was all a fucking hoax, and that the government would force everyone to get a vaccine ???

Not much of a conspiracy theory now, that you have to show proof of vaccination to drink a fucking coffee in a public establishment.

Anyway, I said earlier in a gentler manner that I wouldn’t argue with you because you’re “one of those people”, now I’ll just plainly say I won’t argue further with you because you’re a fucking sheep.

Also, having “Gracie bjj” as your handle doesn’t make you a tough guy either.

 

[graciebjj]

I never said it made me a tough guy,
I don’t care if you think I’m a good person or not, neither do I care about being a good person or not. Also, I don’t give a shit about your opinion about me.

You’re just another left leaning idiot playing along the narrative that the government gave you, either because you feel the need to virtue signal, or because you believed them got vaccinated, and now you’re scared to face the music, but it doesn’t matter, it’s coming and you can’t run away from it, it’s just a matter of time.

You also mentioned in your post that I’m making ridiculous claims…

Do you remember one year ago, when “conspiracy theorists” made the ridiculous claims that this was all a fucking hoax, and that the government would force everyone to get a vaccine ???

Not much of a conspiracy theory now, that you have to show proof of vaccination to drink a fucking coffee in a public establishment.

Anyway, I said earlier in a gentler manner that I wouldn’t argue with you because you’re “one of those people”, now I’ll just plainly say I won’t argue further with you because you’re a fucking sheep.

Also, having “Gracie bjj” as your handle doesn’t make you a tough guy either.

Man you are easy to get worked up. I don't think you understand a lot of what you're saying. Bragging about not having empathy is weird as fuck to me. If your neighbour lost their job or died and left kids to a single parent, you wouldn't want to help them out? That's what empathy is bro. Empathy is actually having some interest in doing things for anyone other than yourself. I have a feeling when you bragged about not having empathy you didn't know what you were saying.

Now you're claiming to know my 'political stance' calling me a left leaning idiot. Well I'm left leaning on certain things for sure. I'm left leaning on drug legalization and think the government shouldn't be telling me what I can put in my body. Do you think I'm an idiot for being left leaning in that regard? Do you even know what right/left mean on a political spectrum?? I'm also right leaning in that I think we should be drilling the fuck out of our oil reserves in the west. You understand that people can have nuanced opinions on government policies and aren't just as simple as left or right... no one in this thread is praising our government lol.

As for the ridiculous claims, we're talking about one thing and one thing only. You claimed everyone who has been vaccinated is going to have terrible health consequences, but you have zero evidence to back it up. Zero. Spreading stupid disinformation doesn't help anyone. I got vaxxed because getting COVID fucking sucked. 4+ months of having no lungs. Vaccine gave me a 24-hour fever on the 2nd dose. Whoopie. I'm happy to tell the truth about my experience there, I don't need to lie to anyone and say the vaccines have no side effects and I don't need to tell you that you need to get it. Why can't you just tell the truth about things? You're just parroting some big scary BS. Prove me wrong?

 

[Jankauskas]

Man you are easy to get worked up. I don't think you understand a lot of what you're saying. Bragging about not having empathy is weird as fuck to me. If your neighbour lost their job or died and left kids to a single parent, you wouldn't want to help them out? That's what empathy is bro. Empathy is actually having some interest in doing things for anyone other than yourself. I have a feeling when you bragged about not having empathy you didn't know what you were saying.

Now you're claiming to know my 'political stance' calling me a left leaning idiot. Well I'm left leaning on certain things for sure. I'm left leaning on drug legalization and think the government shouldn't be telling me what I can put in my body. Do you think I'm an idiot for being left leaning in that regard? Do you even know what right/left mean on a political spectrum?? I'm also right leaning in that I think we should be drilling the fuck out of our oil reserves in the west. You understand that people can have nuanced opinions on government policies and aren't just as simple as left or right... no one in this thread is praising our government lol.

As for the ridiculous claims, we're talking about one thing and one thing only. You claimed everyone who has been vaccinated is going to have terrible health consequences, but you have zero evidence to back it up. Zero. Spreading stupid disinformation doesn't help anyone. I got vaxxed because getting COVID fucking sucked. 4+ months of having no lungs. Vaccine gave me a 24-hour fever on the 2nd dose. Whoopie. I'm happy to tell the truth about my experience there, I don't need to lie to anyone and say the vaccines have no side effects and I don't need to tell you that you need to get it. Why can't you just tell the truth about things? You're just parroting some big scary BS. Prove me wrong?

Even mainstream media reports several cases of blood clotting and heart inflammation/ failure, so you don’t have to go very far to know what these “experimental” vaccines that supposedly were developed in under a year (which is very strange, considering other vaccines take decades to develop) can do in terms of side effects.

As for the empathy “brag”, I know fully well what it means and I wasn’t bragging about anything, I was just letting the other poster know that I simply don’t care, my whole life no one has ever gone out of their way or lifted a fucking finger to help me in any way, shape or form, so I don’t feel under any obligation of giving back, that’s just my angle.

Just for the record, I’m not anti vaccine, I’m a libertarian.

Like I said before, I believe people can and should do whatever the fuck they want to do with their lives, as long as it doesn’t impact mine, which is why I have a problem with all of this.

Because everyone lined up to take the shots, having taken them is normalized, and if you don’t take them you get fucked, you get freedoms taken away from you, so in essence, it’s because of them that me and many others are in this situation.

 

[graciebjj]

Even mainstream media reports several cases of blood clotting and heart inflammation/ failure, so you don’t have to go very far to know what these “experimental” vaccines that supposedly were developed in under a year (which is very strange, considering other vaccines take decades to develop) can do in terms of side effects.

As for the empathy “brag”, I know fully well what it means and I wasn’t bragging about anything, I was just letting the other poster know that I simply don’t care, my whole life no one has ever gone out of their way or lifted a fucking finger to help me in any way, shape or form, so I don’t feel under any obligation of giving back, that’s just my angle.

Just for the record, I’m not anti vaccine, I’m a libertarian.

Like I said before, I believe people can and should do whatever the fuck they want to do with their lives, as long as it doesn’t impact mine, which is why I have a problem with all of this.

Because everyone lined up to take the shots, having taken them is normalized, and if you don’t take them you get fucked, you get freedoms taken away from you, so in essence, it’s because of them that me and many others are in this situation.

Listen brother, I don't think we actually disagree on that much. I bet you and I would get along just fine if we weren't shooting back and forth online lol. Just FYI Libertarianism is SUPER socially left. That's complete personal freedom. That's the live-and-let-live mantra of not punishing people for doing drugs, not jailing gay people for being gay, that's legalizing sex work and generally respecting peoples' freedoms. You're socially left leaning too if you identify as libertarian.. and that's not a bad thing.

 

[Jankauskas]

Listen brother, I don't think we actually disagree on that much. I bet you and I would get along just fine if we weren't shooting back and forth online lol. Just FYI Libertarianism is SUPER socially left. That's complete personal freedom. That's the live-and-let-live mantra of not punishing people for doing drugs, not jailing gay people for being gay, that's legalizing sex work and generally respecting peoples' freedoms. You're socially left leaning too if you identify as libertarian.. and that's not a bad thing.

Problem is that being a libertarian and being a liberal/ democrat these days are complete polar opposites.

When I say left what I have in mind is communist dictatorship, because that’s what it has become.

 

[Test_Subject]

Just FYI Libertarianism is SUPER socially left. That's complete personal freedom. That's the live-and-let-live mantra of not punishing people for doing drugs, not jailing gay people for being gay, that's legalizing sex work and generally respecting peoples' freedoms. You're socially left leaning too if you identify as libertarian.. and that's not a bad thing.

That’s a very good point. Libertarianism is far, far closer to classical Liberalism than it is to right wing or Conservative ideology.

I find right-wing Libertarians to be a bit confusing — especially the socially conservative ones.

 

[3ml]

Listen brother, I don't think we actually disagree on that much. I bet you and I would get along just fine if we weren't shooting back and forth online lol. Just FYI Libertarianism is SUPER socially left. That's complete personal freedom. That's the live-and-let-live mantra of not punishing people for doing drugs, not jailing gay people for being gay, that's legalizing sex work and generally respecting peoples' freedoms. You're socially left leaning too if you identify as libertarian.. and that's not a bad thing.

Yes to legalizing sex work!!!

 

[graciebjj]

That’s a very good point. Libertarianism is far, far closer to classical Liberalism than it is to right wing or Conservative ideology.

I find right-wing Libertarians to be a bit confusing — especially the socially conservative ones.

Politics today are totally fucked because people don't even know where they stand on shit. Most of us agree on a shit ton more than we disagree on but we're way too tribal about stuff. I have friends voting PPC and other friends voting NDP, and they are able to get along. On the internet though.... watch out.... we either talk about it and become enemies or we stay quiet because we don't want to get brigaded by people on the 'other side'.

In this thread a lot of people seem to hate "the left" but fail to realize the right (conservative party) are the ones who keep us posting on "the underground". I bet 99% of us are agree with some conservative policies and some liberal policies. We're probably most pro-capitalism (econ right) and pro-legalization (socially left).

 

[Test_Subject]

Politics today are totally fucked because people don't even know where they stand on shit. Most of us agree on a shit ton more than we disagree on but we're way too tribal about stuff. I have friends voting PPC and other friends voting NDP, and they are able to get along. On the internet though.... watch out.... we either talk about it and become enemies or we stay quiet because we don't want to get brigaded by people on the 'other side'.

In this thread a lot of people seem to hate "the left" but fail to realize the right (conservative party) are the ones who keep us posting on "the underground". I bet 99% of us are agree with some conservative policies and some liberal policies. We're probably most pro-capitalism (econ right) and pro-legalization (socially left).

It doesn’t help that politicians and their masters keep everyone riled up on purpose and encourage tribalism based on political affiliations.

If people actually sat back and took a good look at how much common ground most people share, it would not end well for the people pulling the strings. The powers that be know this and do everything that they can to keep the bickering and division going strong. It’s easier to convince a divided populace that getting fucked is in their own best interest.

 

[Silent Caracal]

Can I just say how thankful I am for most of the people in this thread? The discussions here and on the rest of this board are way less polarized and source-worshipping/hating than on other boards. Lets me relax a bit, overall.

Does anybody here know whether there's a realistic chance of gear from one of the major labs being faked or tampered with? I read somewhere else that nobody is faking gear from a major lab, but I was wondering how someone could make the assertion with such certainty.

 

[Fittrader]

Can I just say how thankful I am for most of the people in this thread? The discussions here and on the rest of this board are way less polarized and source-worshipping/hating than on other boards. Lets me relax a bit, overall.

Does anybody here know whether there's a realistic chance of gear from one of the major labs being faked or tampered with? I read somewhere else that nobody is faking gear from a major lab, but I was wondering how someone could make the assertion with such certainty.

it would be very easy to follow up and figure out if there is any issues with label, packaging , tabs , etc also the lab would be told then check up on it then figure out if it’s from one of their people etc etc

the only fake gear ever was 2011ish innovagen. Some guy from Montreal was copying innovagen old labels *poorly*and he was outted fast and then he turned his 15ml bottles it’s bioswiss pharma and then inno updated their labels to 9*

 

[Fittrader]

Also if you are going to brew gear, bottle it press tabs etc and buy labels of another lab that exists is completely retarded.. when you can just create your own brand.. why would you invest in copying which you could make get a few clients and few bucks lol

 

[Silent Caracal]

it would be very easy to follow up and figure out if there is any issues with label, packaging , tabs , etc also the lab would be told then check up on it then figure out if it’s from one of their people etc etc

the only fake gear ever was 2011ish innovagen. Some guy from Montreal was copying innovagen old labels *poorly*and he was outted fast and then he turned his 15ml bottles it’s bioswiss pharma and then inno updated their labels to 9*

I guess one issue is that I have no way to contact the labs directly, so verifying a source through the lab doesn't seem feasible unless there's some public contact information I'm missing.

 

[Cashton]

I guess one issue is that I have no way to contact the labs directly, so verifying a source through the lab doesn't seem feasible unless there's some public contact information I'm missing.

Most labs have a public rep, even Inno, a private lab has a few public reps, just a matter of getting their contact info and someone to vouch for you.

 

[Jet Labs]

Yes to legalizing sex work!!!

Just because my massage therapist give me a blowjob as well doesn't make her a sex worker, it just makes her a REALLY good massage therapist lol

 

[Fittrader]

I guess one issue is that I have no way to contact the labs directly, so verifying a source through the lab doesn't seem feasible unless there's some public contact information I'm missing.

which lab are you talking about
You can post photos here. You can ask the Syn rep the Pareto rep or whatever ( as you mentioned bigger labs)

you can post your concerns on any Canadian board you can say it’s you bought it from some dude in the showers at the gym or from a website or from an online rep then if there concerns the lab will contact you trust me

if they know their anavar is white tabs and your showing blue ones they will be alerted via forums etc

a lot of ways to figure it out brother don’t worry

 

[Fittrader]

if anyone says we are assholes here on meso

They should of seen the thread made by someone on CJM calling some members shills and bashing them ( to the point the perosn being accuses gets banned) for posting reviews

thread gets out of control and locked.. then deleted and a mod makes a new thread saying there was a confusion

pure dumpster fire over false claims. That is real asshole move in my books

we have a good thing here

 

[J3TBlack999]

Even mainstream media reports several cases of blood clotting and heart inflammation/ failure, so you don’t have to go very far to know what these “experimental” vaccines that supposedly were developed in under a year (which is very strange, considering other vaccines take decades to develop) can do in terms of side effects.

As for the empathy “brag”, I know fully well what it means and I wasn’t bragging about anything, I was just letting the other poster know that I simply don’t care, my whole life no one has ever gone out of their way or lifted a fucking finger to help me in any way, shape or form, so I don’t feel under any obligation of giving back, that’s just my angle.

Just for the record, I’m not anti vaccine, I’m a libertarian.

Like I said before, I believe people can and should do whatever the fuck they want to do with their lives, as long as it doesn’t impact mine, which is why I have a problem with all of this.

Because everyone lined up to take the shots, having taken them is normalized, and if you don’t take them you get fucked, you get freedoms taken away from you, so in essence, it’s because of them that me and many others are in this situation.

Based and Libertarian pilled.

 

[Cashton]

if anyone says we are assholes here on meso

They should of seen the thread made by someone on CJM calling some members shills and bashing them ( to the point the perosn being accuses gets banned) for posting reviews

thread gets out of control and locked.. then deleted and a mod makes a new thread saying there was a confusion

pure dumpster fire over false claims. That is real asshole move in my books

we have a good thing here

100% I found meso and never looked back.

 

[Lifeonair]

Anyone have a good Canadian source for pharma primo? I’m on scripted TRT and really don’t want to run ugl, even though I know we have some quality labs here in Canada.