Carbs At Night: Fat Loss Killer Or Imaginary Boogeyman?

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Most fitness enthusiasts learn early on to treat late-night carbohydrates like a nightmare waiting to happen. But what does science 'real science' have to say? The answer may surprise you.
There are quite a few things that everyone in the fitness industry "knows." You have to eat eight meals per day, consume 400g+ protein per day, do fasted cardio, lift heavy weights to bulk up and light weights with high reps to tone up ... oh wait, those are all broscience!

Don't get me wrong, bodybuilding and fitness have been on the cutting edge of many dietary and training interventions to which mainstream science is only now catching up. Unfortunately, the vetting process for many of these protocols isn't exactly stringent. Thus, many things become accepted as fact, when in reality they are broscience. The debate about whether or not it's okay to have carbs at night has been all but settled in the fitness industry. The consensus is: You simply can't consume a shred of carbohydrates at night or you will store fat faster than a vampire rises after sunset!

That is, according to many fitness "experts" out there, most of whose credentials are worth about as much as a thin sheet of slightly used one-ply toilet paper. In this article, I will look into this fitness factoid to determine if eating carbs at night is actually detrimental to your body composition or if it is all broscience.

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"THE DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OK TO HAVE CARBS AT NIGHT HAS BEEN ALL BUT SETTLED IN THE FITNESS INDUSTRY."
SO WHERE DID THIS "NO CARBS AT NIGHT" THING COME FROM?
In order to properly assess this fitness "fact," we need to understand why limiting carbs at night is recommended in the first place. Most "experts" who recommend limiting carbs at night do so because their assertion is that since you will be going to sleep soon, your metabolism will slow down and those carbohydrates will have a greater chance at being stored as fat compared to if they were consumed earlier in the day, where they would have a greater probability of being burned. This seems reasonable, but broscience always does. They also often assert that insulin sensitivity is reduced at night, shifting your carb-storing directionality towards fat and away from muscle.

Let's tackle the issue of metabolic rate slowing down at night time first. The logic behind this theory seems reasonable enough: You lie down in a bed and don't really move, just sleep, so obviously you are burning fewer calories than if you are awake doing stuff. Even if you are just sitting in a chair or couch resting, you have to burn more calories than just sleeping right?

"THE IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD AVOID CARBS AT NIGHT BECAUSE YOUR METABOLISM SLOWS DOWN AND YOU WON'T 'BURN THEM OFF' DEFINITELY DOESN'T PASS THE LITMUS TEST."
At first glance this seems to jive with work from Katoyose et al. which showed that energy expenditure decreased during the first half of sleep approximately 35 percent.1 However, these researchers did show that during the latter half of sleep energy expenditure significantly increased associated with REM sleep. So, there are rises and falls in sleeping metabolic rate (SMR), but what is the overall effect? Interestingly, at the very least it does not appear that the average overall energy expenditure during sleep is any different than resting metabolic rate (RMR) during the day.2,3 Additionally, it appears that exercise increases sleeping metabolic rate significantly, leading to greater fat oxidation during sleep.4 This seems to be in line with data from Zhang et al. which demonstrated that obese individuals had sleeping metabolic rates lower than their resting metabolic rates, whereas lean individuals had sleeping metabolic rates significantly greater than their resting metabolic rate.3 So unless you are obese, not only does your metabolism not slow down during sleep, it actually increases!

The idea that you should avoid carbs at night because your metabolism slows down and you won't "burn them off" definitely doesn't pass the litmus test.

SO THE WHOLE "DON'T EAT CARBS AT NIGHT" THING IS DEFINITELY BROSCIENCE, RIGHT?
So far, the fear of carbs at night certainly smells like broscience, but before we render a verdict, let's examine things further. There is also the issue of insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance to address. This is where things get interesting. Compared to morning meals, levels of blood glucose and blood insulin definitely remain elevated longer with evening meals.5,6 Aha! There it is, proof, that you shouldn't consume carbs at night right? Not so fast. Though insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance appear to be worse at night compared to a morning meal, it is important to keep in mind that a morning meal is after an overnight fast and the fast may improve insulin sensitivity. Perhaps a more fair comparison is a mid-day meal vs. a nighttime meal. In this case there is actually no difference in insulin sensitivity or glucose tolerance.5

Therefore, it appears that insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance are not necessarily impaired at night, but rather are merely enhanced by an overnight fast.

DOES ANY OF THIS SCIENCE MUMBO JUMBO ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
While it is great to talk about mechanisms and nitpick every intricate detail about metabolism, at the end of the day, we have to examine whether or not any of this stuff makes any difference. Fortunately for us, a recent study published in the Journal of Obesity examined this very question.7 Researchers from Israel put people on a calorically restricted diet for six months and split them into two groups, a control group and an experimental group. Each group consumed the same amount of calories, protein, carbohydrates, and fat but they distributed their carbohydrate intake very differently. One group (control) ate carbs throughout the day, whereas the experimental group consumed the majority of their carbohydrate intake (approximately 80 percent of the total) at the night. What they found after six months may shock you.

Not only did the experimental group consuming the majority of their carbs at night lose significantly more weight and bodyfat than the control group, they also experienced better satiety and less hunger!

WHOA, HOLD UP. LESS HUNGER? I DON'T BUY IT
You heard me right, they were less hungry. Now I'm sure all of you that have been following typical fitness protocols where you eat six times per day and have most of your carbs earlier in the day are thinking, "Man, if I went more than 2-3 hours without carbs, I'd be starving!" Well, my friends, you are buying into a vicious cycle. Let me explain: When you eat small amounts of carbs frequently, you are basically titrating in glucose to your system.

To dispose of this glucose, your body releases insulin to drive blood glucose into cells. Over-secretion of insulin, however, may cause hunger to rise (typically about 2-3 hours post meal, the approximate time course of an insulin response), but—no problem—you are eating every 2-3 hours anyway, right? Just titrate in some more glucose. Unfortunately this makes you crave and consume glucose like clockwork. It tricks many people into thinking that they need carbs every 2-3 hours or they would be hungry when, in fact, the opposite is true.

If you ate carbs less frequently with more time between carb dosings, you would be less hungry because your own body would ramp up systems that deal with endogenous glucose production, and keep your blood glucose steady. When you consume carbs every 2-3 hours however this system of glucose production (gluconeogenesis) becomes chronically down regulated and you must rely on exogenous carb intake to maintain your blood glucose levels. Now if you transition from eating carbs every 2-3 hours to further apart for the first few days you may be hungry until your body has adjusted to using gluconeogenesis to maintain blood glucose rather than just eating carbs every 2-3 hours, but once you do adjust, you will find that you are far less hungry.

Bringing things full circle, this is exactly what the researchers found! These subjects were hungrier in the first week of the diet compared to 90 and 180 days into the diet where they were much more satiated.

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"WHEN YOU EAT SMALL AMOUNTS OF CARBS FREQUENTLY YOU ARE BASICALLY TITRATING IN GLUCOSE TO YOUR SYSTEM."
CONTROL GROUP
So what's the explanation for the nighttime carb group losing more body fat and being more satiated than the control group (maybe we should call them the "bro" group)? The researchers postulated that more favorable shifts in hormones may be the difference. The baseline insulin values in the experimental group eating the majority of carbs at night were significantly lower than those eating carbs during the day.7 So much for carbs at night decreasing insulin sensitivity, right? Additionally, the experimental group had much higher levels of adiponectin, a hormone associated with increased insulin sensitivity and fat burning. They also trended toward slightly higher leptin levels. Furthermore, the nighttime carb munchers had lower levels of LDL (bad) cholesterol and higher levels of HDL (good) cholesterol.

Overall, the people eating the majority of their carbs at night lost more bodyfat and had better markers of health by the end of the study than those who ate more of their carbs during the day.

SO WHAT'S THE VERDICT?
I am not ready to say that we should all be eating the majority of our carbs at night. I would like to see this study repeated but with a bolus amount of carbs eaten at one meal in the morning to properly compare it to the single high carb meal at night, whereas the previous study compared a bolus night time carb meal vs. several feedings of carbs throughout the day. It may very well be that the beneficial effects of the diet in this study was more associated with limiting carb dosing (and insulin secretion) to a single bolus rather than spreading them throughout the day.

"Overall the people eating the majority of their carbs at night lost more bodyfat and had better markers of health bey the end of the study than those who ate more of their carbs during the day time."
However, I think what can be said with relative certainly is the notion that consuming carbohydrates at night will lead to more fat gain, or impair fat loss compared to consuming them at other times of the day, is false. Write it down: "Don't eat carbs at night, bro" has officially been busted as broscience!

This article was contributed to Bodybuilding.com via Broscience.com

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  2. Seale JL, Conway JM. Relationship between overnight energy expenditure and BMR measured in a room-sized calorimeter. Eur J Clin Nutr. 1999 Feb;53(2):107-11.
  3. Zhang K, Sun M, Werner P, Kovera AJ, Albu J, Pi-Sunyer FX, Boozer CN. Sleeping metabolic rate in relation to body mass index and body composition. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2002 Mar;26(3):376-83.
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  8. Carbs At Night: Fat Loss Killer Or Imaginary Boogeyman?
 
Good read.
I eat the majority of my carbs before bed..what i found is i sleep better, i feel better when i wake up, i rarely have that deflated feeling in the morning and i have more energy throughout the day. As far as fat loss..if anything, ive had more success eating carbs at night then not.
 
Good read.
I eat the majority of my carbs before bed..what i found is i sleep better, i feel better when i wake up, i rarely have that deflated feeling in the morning and i have more energy throughout the day. As far as fat loss..if anything, ive had more success eating carbs at night then not.

Interesting!!!!
 
Im not going to comment extensively but its interesting you posted this up now for me. The reason being that one of my friends from the forums has been utilizing carb back-loading recently and he is trying to get me to give this approach a shot. Not 100% the exact topic of this thread but a definite tie in.
I have yet to give this method a go but I am definitely interested in it. More and more over recent years I have come to believe that nutrient timing is highly overrated if not total nonsense for the majority if us all. Then again, going by such a belief that would also render carb back-loading as total nonsense as well. It just seems to me that the body is way more adaptive than we give it credit for and you cant trick it as far as when you take in which macro-nutrients as far as creating an anabolic or lipolytic environment.
Interesting thread/topic, thanks for posting.
 
Whether it's carb back loading or cutting carbs off mid-day or any other way to diet, it all boils down to calories in versus calories out. I don't believe the body operates on a day to day basis with sleep being the break between different ways the body uses food, but the body operates on a continuum with sleep being just an element within that continuum.

If carbs at night was that bad then Lee Haney wouldn't have eaten pineapple or fruit cocktail before bed and been 8x Mr. Olymipia
 
If you deny the power of insulin your a fool. The entire carb backloading is based around ke to adapting, and then maximizing one's insulin sensitivity.
 
If you deny the power of insulin your a fool. The entire carb backloading is based around ke to adapting, and then maximizing one's insulin sensitivity.

If you give too much credit to physiological levels of insulin then you're a fool too.
 
I'm a big believer in the thermodynamic theory of weight loss. To lose weight, calories in < colories out. Obviously if you want to eat for overall health, than the composition of what you're eating matter (e.g., fat, carb, protein, processed vs unprocessed etc).
 
Carbs before bed definitely don't make you fat. If they did I would be a fat pig! The combination of having no self control and genetics makes people fat.
 
Did a pizza carb load last night. Murdered legs so fucking hard this morning. Weighed 5 pounds heavier this morning. Will report further results.

On creatine, running keto and been in a deficit for months. So obviously it was glycogen but felt amazing.
 
Did a pizza carb load last night. Murdered legs so fucking hard this morning. Weighed 5 pounds heavier this morning. Will report further results.

On creatine, running keto and been in a deficit for months. So obviously it was glycogen but felt amazing.
How much pepperoni was on that bad boy? Holy sodium retention 5lbs, lol..
 
None. Buffalo chicken pizza from papa John's.

Ranch based sauce bacon cheese chicken (nonbreaded) and Frank's poured all over that bitch.

Eat 3k plus sodium daily for keto though because it's super important for your body.

I weigh 240 at 18% -20% still a gear virgin.
 
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