Changland Technology Co., Ltd. (International, US domestic)

no what I mean by that is that he must have analyzed the first one at 171mg exactly well but instead of talking about the first one he may have made the mistake of writing testo. I don't know, maybe due to fatigue or too much work. What I mean by that is that on the second time again the dosage came out identical to the first one. (Primo)
AB is a waste of money. If you're going to go to the trouble to pay for testing don't you want an accurate report that tells you what is actually in the vile? @Spaceman Spiff is correct. In that instance they completely misidentified the compound and if the guy who ordered the test didn't press them on it, they would have not retested it and found their mistake. The guy knew exactly what he sent them because he actually had the exact same thing tested by three different labs. I'm not interested in paying money to a lab that can't even get the compound right.

Jano is still the only decent place to test at this point.
 
AB is a waste of money. If you're going to go to the trouble to pay for testing don't you want an accurate report that tells you what is actually in the vile? @Spaceman Spiff is correct. In that instance they completely misidentified the compound and if the guy who ordered the test didn't press them on it, they would have not retested it and found their mistake. The guy knew exactly what he sent them because he actually had the exact same thing tested by three different labs. I'm not interested in paying money to a lab that can't even get the compound right.

Jano is still the only decent place to test at this point.
I can understand it's true seen like this
 
It’s never a good look when the customer has to double check and verify a labs work. That’s the whole point of blind testing. You tell me what it is.

I understand there’s still members of the “we hate Jano club” from 6 years ago, but you can’t deny he knows what he’s doing.
 
ok yes I just understood and indeed there was a slight error on the name but as long as the dosage has not changed we will say that errors can happen even to the best ;)
A kinder, gentler, critic. You sound like your child came to you after getting a poor grade on an assignment and you have him for the weekend and are using the opportunity to either score points while you're trying to be the cool parent or you feel guilty and blame yourself and the breakup of your marriage for his poor marks?

Careful not to indulge the youth. Many find it easy to manipulate in these circumstsances. Could be you're raising a sociopath and you're just a mark. He could also be a normal kid who just knows how to play you.

You could also be sweet on whomever you're in in contact with at this operation and want to give them an "atta boy" in hopes of turning the conversation a little bit more personal the next time you speak?

Listen, whatever the deal is try thinking of the greater good here instead of whatever motive is driving your car at the moment here. I'm under the impression that these type folks in these types of businesses are analytical and don't need, want, or know how to handle being coddled.
"Even the best make mistakes" or whatever it was that you said has no place in this thread. AB or whomever would be the first the agree with me if they are worth a damn. Its ok to expect more from these places.
 
I have not once seen a positive experience with AB

Incorrect reference samples, no communication, weeks long wait, posting customers tracking numbers openly because the idiot mixed up email communications, generally unorganized communications and business practices


I only trust janoshik at this time.
 
Gotta give it to them regarding shipping, usually it take 60-70 days for stuff from china to get to where I live, i made an order on march 23rd and its already here, yea the shipping fee isnt cheap but its well worth it for me now time to check if the stuff is legit.
 
I strongly encourage Members to hold all sources accountable. The best way to do that is to request, pressure, and demand (repeatedly and aggressively) that they conduct more lab testing on their products in the name of harm reduction.

I see absolutely no reason that anyone should discourage or otherwise prevent a Member from doing this under any circumstance. Anyone who defends sources against such requests is thwarting the community harm reduction efforts.

If there are any reasons, valid or not, that the source should not perform such analytical testing, the onus should be fully on the source to explain those reasons.

Sources should directly address the issue of refusing to perform lab tests (whether it's specific testing or frequency).

It is NOT the job of source sympathizers, sycophants, dickriders, etc. to defend the sources, represent the sources, or absolve the sources of any responsibility for not testing their products. Anyone who does this undermines the goals of a forum that prides itself on harm reduction.




Sources who extensively test their products provide a valuable harm reduction service. It's not nearly as valuable as independent member testing but does help hold them accountable.

But make no mistake, sources who lab test their products are doing so due to marketing pressures - it has become a cost of doing business required in the community. It is not an act of altruism but self-serving and profit-oriented.



We should appreciate members who contribute to lab testing at every level. But let's don't make it a moral issue or use it disparage or discredit those who are not in a position to spend money on testing.
@chrispowders

Test your products. No one should waste a dime on this guy unless he starts testing his products. If you think having a bad attitude about criticism is going to make the pressure stop then you are sadly mistaken.
 
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