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Christians and taking roids!!!
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Amen bro.
I forgot to explain in my post that Rachael was a real practicing witch, in a coven.
When we met God told me not to tell her I was a christian, and when she saw the things that happened, she asked if I was a Warlock.
I laughed really hard, THAT was a funny idea.
We were having a good time with her quandry, and then it it me, and
I told her, "Good grief no, I'm something much more powerful than that".
"What?"
Oh, it was so funny. The power of God came, she tingled all over, and I said, "A child of God". WHAM... heh heh... God is good, what can I say.
Later she fell on the floor laughing so hard she couldn't get up, after discovering her knees had no pain for the first time in 40 years (congenital birth defect), and every pain in her body was gone.
She laughed so hard she cried...
She thought she was in love with me though, it's so easy to mistake God's love for marriage type love. But now she's experienced everything on her own and knows it's God she's in love with.
I forgot to explain in my post that Rachael was a real practicing witch, in a coven.
When we met God told me not to tell her I was a christian, and when she saw the things that happened, she asked if I was a Warlock.
I laughed really hard, THAT was a funny idea.
We were having a good time with her quandry, and then it it me, and
I told her, "Good grief no, I'm something much more powerful than that".
"What?"
Oh, it was so funny. The power of God came, she tingled all over, and I said, "A child of God". WHAM... heh heh... God is good, what can I say.
Later she fell on the floor laughing so hard she couldn't get up, after discovering her knees had no pain for the first time in 40 years (congenital birth defect), and every pain in her body was gone.
She laughed so hard she cried...
She thought she was in love with me though, it's so easy to mistake God's love for marriage type love. But now she's experienced everything on her own and knows it's God she's in love with.
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VDC
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The entrance of God's Word brings light,,,
The thing that gets me is how the anti-christ tries and succeeds with the unbelievers to put time and distance between them and God,,,"Some glad day", "Way up over yonder.",,,When plainly He says I will be with you always even to the endS of the earth(I capitilized the s on purpose),,,Paul said"In him we live move and have our being",,,We are submerged in God 24/7,,,All you have to do is open up and let him in,,,Back to the EndS of the earth,,,Paul said I die daily,,,We are crucified with him,,,Those that mortify the deeds of the flesh By the Spirit shall live,,,His words are spirit and they are life,,,So simple,,,Thats the ends of the earth he is talking about,,,
"...and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." Matt1:23
I sat down in a chapel in the Knoxville YMCA and started studying the Word,,,2 guys walk in,,,One sits on my right hand and one on the left,,,I just start teaching them the Word of Life,,,That he has abolished death and brought life and immortality to life through the Gospel(Good news= words),,,The one on the right received and full of awe,,,The one on the left clung to one scripture that he learnt the misinterpretation of from some Church,,,"Its appointed unto man once to die then comes the judgment.",,,They say it means we go to the grave and then we are judged,,,Completely ignoring the scripture that says that some go to judgment before and some after,,,If we die to the flesh through the spirit then we are judged,,,I am dead and my life is hid with Christ in God,,,
The thief cometh not but to kill, steal, and destroy. I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly,,,AAhh and what a life it is,,,Now thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift,,,VDC
The thing that gets me is how the anti-christ tries and succeeds with the unbelievers to put time and distance between them and God,,,"Some glad day", "Way up over yonder.",,,When plainly He says I will be with you always even to the endS of the earth(I capitilized the s on purpose),,,Paul said"In him we live move and have our being",,,We are submerged in God 24/7,,,All you have to do is open up and let him in,,,Back to the EndS of the earth,,,Paul said I die daily,,,We are crucified with him,,,Those that mortify the deeds of the flesh By the Spirit shall live,,,His words are spirit and they are life,,,So simple,,,Thats the ends of the earth he is talking about,,,
"...and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." Matt1:23
I sat down in a chapel in the Knoxville YMCA and started studying the Word,,,2 guys walk in,,,One sits on my right hand and one on the left,,,I just start teaching them the Word of Life,,,That he has abolished death and brought life and immortality to life through the Gospel(Good news= words),,,The one on the right received and full of awe,,,The one on the left clung to one scripture that he learnt the misinterpretation of from some Church,,,"Its appointed unto man once to die then comes the judgment.",,,They say it means we go to the grave and then we are judged,,,Completely ignoring the scripture that says that some go to judgment before and some after,,,If we die to the flesh through the spirit then we are judged,,,I am dead and my life is hid with Christ in God,,,
The thief cometh not but to kill, steal, and destroy. I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly,,,AAhh and what a life it is,,,Now thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift,,,VDC
Skullfucked
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So drinking even a glass of wine is a sin too. All right all you CATHOLICS-your going to hell and Im driving the bus!spound said:
You are a breath of heavenly air, brother.
My judgment started 5 years ago that I'm aware of, bro, and I thank God for it. His judgments only bring love and sweetness. He means no pain towards us, and we receive none if we let that glorious love in, as he shows us the things wrong.
Glory to God bro.
My judgment started 5 years ago that I'm aware of, bro, and I thank God for it. His judgments only bring love and sweetness. He means no pain towards us, and we receive none if we let that glorious love in, as he shows us the things wrong.
Glory to God bro.
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Jewel
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Awesome posts Neo:
One question: Does it draw you into a closer relationship with God and with Jesus Christ or does it pull you away from Him and focus your thoughts upon yourself?
I think that if you answer that question, you will begin to resolve your feelings about steroids.
One question: Does it draw you into a closer relationship with God and with Jesus Christ or does it pull you away from Him and focus your thoughts upon yourself?
I think that if you answer that question, you will begin to resolve your feelings about steroids.
Ooh!!! Nice one. Short, sweet, and to the point.
Interesting too, how feeling that out, could take something that was wrong, and make it right. Once a thing is connected to God, that's often all that was missing that made it wrong (or against your conscience).
Whatever brings peace, joy, and the fruit of the Spirit. That's how I always feel something out, see what it does to my heart and my relationship with God. Give a thing to God and see if he gives it back, and rejoice at either response, knowing your Father is wiser and more loving than we could ever be.
GLORY!
Interesting too, how feeling that out, could take something that was wrong, and make it right. Once a thing is connected to God, that's often all that was missing that made it wrong (or against your conscience).
Whatever brings peace, joy, and the fruit of the Spirit. That's how I always feel something out, see what it does to my heart and my relationship with God. Give a thing to God and see if he gives it back, and rejoice at either response, knowing your Father is wiser and more loving than we could ever be.
GLORY!
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VDC
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I once had the flu,,,I'm leading service in the Mission,,,After I taught I asked if anyone needed prayer,,,All these people lined up,,,All asked to be healed of the flu,,,As I prayed for them they rec'd their healing and I felt worse,,,One sister discerned this and asked if she could pray for me,,,When she did she got just as sick as I was(I still felt the same-miserable),,,When I saw that she got sick I prayed for her,,,She was healed and there I was,,,I went home and asked why I could not get healed,,,He showed me a scripture in Job,,,Where God told Satan that he moved God's hand against Job without reason,,,Then He showed me Satan moving His hand against me without cause,,,Then at that moment I could see that all things come from God(All the powers that be are ordained of God,,,The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof),,,So I endured it giving thanks,,,"All things work together for good to them that love God; to them that are the called according to His purpose.",,,VDC
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Fat Freddy
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RobbieH02879 said:
I just laughed so hard I almost shit my pants.
As far as gear and Jesus goes...I figure Jesus wants me to be happy, if I'm happy using gear then I (might, if I cared about religious stuff) consider it a blessing from Jesus. I do what makes myself and others happy and treat everybody with respect without needing to read or strictly abide by the good (rule)book. There are rights and wrongs in life, some dictated by the Bible, some by the government, and others that are felt from within.
Don't mean to offend anyone, just stating a point of view.
Hogg
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Errrr, em, well now. One might consider the following scenarios.
A man goes to GNC, buys a tub of creatine and whatever other wazoo supplements are out there and uses them inconjunction with weight training to enhance/strengthen his physique.
A man goes to his doctor and receives a prescription for testosterone cream to enhance his standard of living amidst the drudgery of an aging body.
A man in greece proceeds down to his local pharmacy and purchases a quantity of steroids to enhance/strengthen his physique and/or enhance his standard of living amidst the drudgery of an aging carcass.
A man in the United States takes a drive down to nogalez and smuggles a quantity of steroids across the border in an effort to enhance/strengthen his physique and/or enhance his standard of living amidst the drudgery of an aging carcass.
All men love the lord and are of blind faith.
Who is the sinner?
Who is not worthy of salvation because he lifts weights and uses food/supplements/drugs to enhance/strengthen his physique?
Here is another scenario. 3 men are contributing their time to a housing project for the poor....homes across america, the ronald reagan foundation...whatever.
One man is a 'Christian'. The other a catholic. The other a non-denominational sort of fellow. The catholic smashes his thumb while driving a nail with a 28 oz vaughn framing hammer. He cries "OWWWWWWW F*CK G*DDAM THAT HURT!"......the Christian contorts in horror, covers his ears and says "Oh Lord dont let my Christian ears hear this filth." The 3rd man takes his t-shirt off, rips a piece of it, and wraps the Catholic's thumb which now looks like mashed potatoes covered in ketchup. He whisks the Catholic off to his car while he is dripping blood all over the interior of his 2004 745LI. Who acted as Jesus would have wanted? The Catholic probably meant nothing by taking the Lord's name in vain, rather, the "G-D" phrase is usually something that becomes embedded in one's vocabulary based on the geographical and sociological factors influencing his upbringing. I can find you a pile of french-canadians, italians, and portuguese on the east coast that fear God but let a G-D slip every once in a while. Its not right, but in the same token, I doubt they mean anything by it in their hearts.
The point is, let us not forget that it is about living your life as best you can with the means you are given. If you are questioning every possible crossroads in life and attempting to live like a christian as prescribed by popular belief, rather than by your conscience and your heart, you might want to reconsider your path. Christians have killed in the name of God, entire nations have committed vile acts against others because they thought they had received a 'calling'. Man is fallible...... especially when his heart becomes black. I think you know what I am trying to say. You will have flaws or no flaws at all depending on which group of men judges you.....Seems to me, there are plenty of 'religious' folks who smoke, drink, and use the f-word occassionally....I doubt it has destroyed their right to salvation.
A man goes to GNC, buys a tub of creatine and whatever other wazoo supplements are out there and uses them inconjunction with weight training to enhance/strengthen his physique.
A man goes to his doctor and receives a prescription for testosterone cream to enhance his standard of living amidst the drudgery of an aging body.
A man in greece proceeds down to his local pharmacy and purchases a quantity of steroids to enhance/strengthen his physique and/or enhance his standard of living amidst the drudgery of an aging carcass.
A man in the United States takes a drive down to nogalez and smuggles a quantity of steroids across the border in an effort to enhance/strengthen his physique and/or enhance his standard of living amidst the drudgery of an aging carcass.
All men love the lord and are of blind faith.
Who is the sinner?
Who is not worthy of salvation because he lifts weights and uses food/supplements/drugs to enhance/strengthen his physique?
Here is another scenario. 3 men are contributing their time to a housing project for the poor....homes across america, the ronald reagan foundation...whatever.
One man is a 'Christian'. The other a catholic. The other a non-denominational sort of fellow. The catholic smashes his thumb while driving a nail with a 28 oz vaughn framing hammer. He cries "OWWWWWWW F*CK G*DDAM THAT HURT!"......the Christian contorts in horror, covers his ears and says "Oh Lord dont let my Christian ears hear this filth." The 3rd man takes his t-shirt off, rips a piece of it, and wraps the Catholic's thumb which now looks like mashed potatoes covered in ketchup. He whisks the Catholic off to his car while he is dripping blood all over the interior of his 2004 745LI. Who acted as Jesus would have wanted? The Catholic probably meant nothing by taking the Lord's name in vain, rather, the "G-D" phrase is usually something that becomes embedded in one's vocabulary based on the geographical and sociological factors influencing his upbringing. I can find you a pile of french-canadians, italians, and portuguese on the east coast that fear God but let a G-D slip every once in a while. Its not right, but in the same token, I doubt they mean anything by it in their hearts.
The point is, let us not forget that it is about living your life as best you can with the means you are given. If you are questioning every possible crossroads in life and attempting to live like a christian as prescribed by popular belief, rather than by your conscience and your heart, you might want to reconsider your path. Christians have killed in the name of God, entire nations have committed vile acts against others because they thought they had received a 'calling'. Man is fallible...... especially when his heart becomes black. I think you know what I am trying to say. You will have flaws or no flaws at all depending on which group of men judges you.....Seems to me, there are plenty of 'religious' folks who smoke, drink, and use the f-word occassionally....I doubt it has destroyed their right to salvation.
You could want to murder someone in your heart, and that would be a sin.
The key is in the phrase you didn't understand, ie., "in 'faith' whatever that means".
In faith, means you trust in God for righteousness, not your actions, and you have consulted with God and your conscience, and have nothing that says you should not do a thing.
Then you walk by faith, by trusting in God, that even if you made a mistake, he will help you as a good Father would help a young child trying to follow his Daddy's will, his Daddy's heart.
The key is in the phrase you didn't understand, ie., "in 'faith' whatever that means".
In faith, means you trust in God for righteousness, not your actions, and you have consulted with God and your conscience, and have nothing that says you should not do a thing.
Then you walk by faith, by trusting in God, that even if you made a mistake, he will help you as a good Father would help a young child trying to follow his Daddy's will, his Daddy's heart.
Rod said:
Hogg
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Rod said:
Which begets the question: who determines whether using steroids is a sin to begin with? Sin in terms of transgression against others, sex sin, and the like are fairly easy to quantify.....but as I wrote earlier, how does one establish the difference between using creatine and using steroids? Is it the law? Hmmm, well now, the law is multi-faceted, it is ok for me because I am older and can get a prescription, it is ok for a foreigner in another land, but not ok for someone who is perhaps younger and uses them without a prescription.....so here, we have to ask ourselves who is standing up on their self-righteous pulpit handing out decrees about who is sinning and who is not. If it is a man, not Christ himself, then I think it is better to throw rotten cabbage at him than to bother listening to his words, the prior being much more entertaining
Busy at work a little, wedding planning, watching the lord of the rings trilogy a few times, beer drinking, and planning a return to a recreational endeavor that I had to set aside for the past 6-7 years. Life is good, time is in short supply.
Good to see you friend. I'll poke my head in a bit more frequently.
Take care,
H
Hogg
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Neodavid said:
Indeed......
YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!!
VDC
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Hogg you intellectual you,,,Good to see ya,,,Logic goes so far,,,but we all need to have a revelation or an epiphany inspired by God,,,Like Paul when he had the scales removed from his eyes,,,If the man speaking is not speaking as an oracle of God then throw that cabbage,,,"If the blind lead the blind they both will fall in the ditch."
Getting married!!!Congrats,,,I read the Tolkien Trilogy 6 times,,,Those movies really would have pleased Tolkien(Except leaving Tom Bombadil out of the first one
),,,VDC
Getting married!!!Congrats,,,I read the Tolkien Trilogy 6 times,,,Those movies really would have pleased Tolkien(Except leaving Tom Bombadil out of the first one
),,,VDCHogg, I agree with the points you raised. To me AAS use comes down to a cost benefit calculation. I don't feel much guilt for ignoring the laws of an overly intrusive govt.
So when are the nuptials? What is the recreational activity that has been dormant for 7 yrs? Don't tell me you are taking flying lessons.
So when are the nuptials? What is the recreational activity that has been dormant for 7 yrs? Don't tell me you are taking flying lessons.
Hogg
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The wedding is planned for next spring as of this friday night. It was planned for late summer but unfortunately, it seems I have to give everyone plenty of lead time to coordinate their other activities, vacations and such. (Sigh) were it my decision alone, I'd say: "Oh, conflict of schedule?, good, we'll scratch your name off the list". Unfortunately, I have been told that I need to be more accomodating of others.....in light of the fact that it is my wedding ....and I am paying the bill. Go figure.
LOL...no flying.
LOL...no flying.
"And here's the address to send gifts."Hogg said:
Back to racing, my friend?Hogg said:
