Cialis 2.5 mg - works for anyone ?

[Martin777]

I'm hesistant to use pde 5 inhibittors both for the price, for the confidence reasons (I'm relatively young, i'd rather treat the underlying conditions such as being overweight or hormonal imbalance first, than start just popping up a pill before sex, let alone take it daily for the next 40+ years), for possible side effects reasons and being afraid of long term tolerance build up.



I mean I'd rather live without sex for a few more months than have a normal sex life, but always with cialis/viagra. I am unemployed, that doesn't do good for confidence and getting a grl to begin with [)] & low testosterone surely doesnt help. (im not treating the testosterone in any way, as I think I should first get rid of my overweight, instead of just jumping on TRT)

however, I'm not so firm in my belief and I'd consider using cialis once or twice when travelling, but absolutely the lowest possible dose.

I see the doses are 20 mg, 10 mg, 5 mg and apparently even 2.5 mg.

Based on the severity of my ED, Im sure I dont need 20 mg, a10 mg pill - i assume it would work great, 5mg might work OK as well, but 2.5mg, no idea...

to be clear, I never took them, I just know the degree of my ED so based on that im calculating the most likely best dose whiuch would still work for me...

anyway I've seen some people here claiming they take 20 mg twice per week and it works great, the popular daily dosage is one 5mg pill every day, but apparently also 2.5 mg

"'In June 2007, the European Commission approved low-dose (2.5 mg and 5 mg) Cialis to be used as single-daily ED therapy." (wikipedia)

im wondering if 2.5 mg taken not daily, but once before sex, could work at all ?
or is such a dose so small that the effect should be truly marginal ?

 

[CenDS]

no it does not work for everyone

 

[TheOldFart]

I have not used Cialis, but I have used Viagra for over 2 years. The Viagra doses are 25, 50 and 100 mg. Depending on the results of my TRT, including total and free T and E2 levels, different doses will work or not. Sometimes I don't need any Viagra at all. Most times when I do need it then 25 mg works well. When my hormones were really bad, 50 mg didn't do much for me and 25 mg did nothing. I would assume that Cialis is the same and even 10 mg might not work for some people. Actually, even the highest dose of all of them may not work for a small percentage of men.

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

Cialis - 10 to 20mg
viagra - 50 to 100mg

those should work

if you do not want to use drugs use herbs such as maca root /tribulious yombie bark and stuff

 

[biceps72]

Cialis - 10 to 20mg
viagra - 50 to 100mg

those should work

if you do not want to use drugs use herbs such as maca root /tribulious yombie bark and stuff

When I need it generic Levitra, 20 mgs, works for me (got it from ADC)

I never tried more than 50 mg of generic viagra but might just to see what happens.

I never used cialis but plan on trying it soon.

With me high E2 is a cock killer. I simply have to keep this in check with armidex.

 

[chemman]

I use 5mg every three days. It doesn't give me diamond cutters but has helped immensely as a bandaid while my hormones have been all jacked up.

20mg doses tend to give me better erections for up to 90 hours+.

 

[tballz]

I like to dose cia at 10-20mg. Good for the weekend.

 

[Jeton]

2.5mg is a dose intended to be used by people already on certain drugs that inhibit the CYP450 complex of liver enzymes, especially 3A4. if ur not on one of those drugs (ketoconazole, ritonavir, others), 2.5 mg Cialis is unlikely to have any noticeable effect. go with the 5mg.

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

2.5mg is a dose intended to be used by people already on certain drugs that inhibit the CYP450 complex of liver enzymes, especially 3A4. if ur not on one of those drugs (ketoconazole, ritonavir, others), 2.5 mg Cialis is unlikely to have any noticeable effect. go with the 5mg.

5mg cialis is still a small dose 10mg should give you impressive hard ones when you want them for even up to like 3 days after u take the 10 mg because it staying in ur body for a couple days

 

[toothache]

10-15mg of cia works for me for the weekend.

 

[Martin777]

I use 5mg every three days].

that's very interesting to hear

Just found this study though....

Efficacy and Safety of Tadalafil 5 mg Administered... [Korean J Urol. 2010] - PubMed result

Efficacy and Safety of Tadalafil 5 mg Administered Once Daily in Korean Men with Erectile Dysfunction: A Prospective, Multicenter Study.

The International Index of Erectile Function (IIEF)-5, blood pressure, and heart rate were measured before treatment with tadalafil (V1) and 4 (V2) and 8 weeks (V3) after treatment with tadalafil...

The IIEF-5 values were 11.25±3.18, 14.56±3.79, and 16.91±3.56 at V1, V2, and V3, respectively, with significant improvement (V1 vs. V2, p<0.001; V1 vs. V3, p<0.001).


do I read it right? These men went from a score of 11 to 14.5 and 16.9 afetr 4 / 8 weeks?

That's not really that great oif an improve, if the IIEF ranges from 0 to 30.

I'd expect 5mg daily treatment with Cialis to be more effective.

I just started taking Prelox couple of days ago, I somehow doubt it will work as good as it's said to work, so I'm already looking into Cialis and this study surprised me.

Actually the studies indicate Prelox taking daily works as good as Cialis, but that just can't be true. I expect Prelox to work worse than it's said to work and Cialis, I thought it should work much better after all... (im talking about regular low doses daily and not on demand treatment)

 

[Melbourne]

i use 20mg,but i only take a half a pill,
if i take whole pill a get headache at back of my head probably is playing with my blood presure
so half a pill is perfect for me

 

[sade]

Liquid C works better than the pills!

 

[cyclonis]

Cialis et al sometimes work for me sometimes not. I assume this is probably T related but again just an assumption.

I recently got cialis daily 5 mg as it's easier than trying to split a 20 mg in half as they are about the same price.

They promote this as daily but I'm actually thinking of taking it nightly, even if I don't plan to have sex. My logic being is I think an important part to a healthy penis is getting nocturnal erections, and I notice I get them more when I have taken cialis. So I'm thinking on taking 5mg (or split those and take half daily).

Just wondering what others think of this.

 

[Jeton]

Cialis et al sometimes work for me sometimes not. I assume this is probably T related but again just an assumption.

I recently got cialis daily 5 mg as it's easier than trying to split a 20 mg in half as they are about the same price.

They promote this as daily but I'm actually thinking of taking it nightly, even if I don't plan to have sex. My logic being is I think an important part to a healthy penis is getting nocturnal erections, and I notice I get them more when I have taken cialis. So I'm thinking on taking 5mg (or split those and take half daily).

Just wondering what others think of this.

on Sirius radio, the BTLS show would often have on a urologist who specializes in male sexual health...he'd swear up n down that as long as u didn't induce priapism, ED drugs were a great way to maximize the health of male genitalia.

daily dosing of cialis is also a proven way of relieving the symptoms of benign prostate hypertrophy (BPH). levitra can do the same, if ur on a CYP450 3a4 inhibitor. dosing is 5mg cialis daily, unless ur on such a liver tweaking med, then it'[s 2.5mg daily (levitra, same dose)

 

[Melbourne]

Cialis et al sometimes work for me sometimes not. I assume this is probably T related but again just an assumption.

I recently got cialis daily 5 mg as it's easier than trying to split a 20 mg in half as they are about the same price.

They promote this as daily but I'm actually thinking of taking it nightly, even if I don't plan to have sex. My logic being is I think an important part to a healthy penis is getting nocturnal erections, and I notice I get them more when I have taken cialis. So I'm thinking on taking 5mg (or split those and take half daily).

Just wondering what others think of this.

it cost me $80AUD ABOUT $76-$77 USD for 4 tablets
i still pay the same if i get 5mg or 20 mg,but if i get 5mg or 10 mg i have to take 1 tablet,i only get 4 doses but if i get 20 mg i cut them in half and get 8 doeses
so it will cost me double if i get 10mg

 

[Yowzer]

I did not feel well when I took Cialis. I think I tried 10 mg. Levitra has the best side effect profile for me an 5 mg (1/4 pill) works well. They are all cheap through ADC. For most people, low doses of Levitra or Viagra work well. When I take Viagra, 1/8th of 100 mg works. Best on empty stomach for quick results-about 15 min for Viagra or Levitra..

 

[zkt]

If you are hypogonadal you will have ED.
Many, if not most, cases of ED will resolve once normal androgen levels are restored. The exception are those of vascular, psycholigical, other hormonal, or neurotransmitter origen.
Being overweight increases estrogen and tends to cause ED.
There is no long term resistance to PDE5 inhibitors.
You are wasting your money on Phylox.
Vardenafil shouldnt cost more than 50 cents/20mg.
The clue as to where is in this thread.
It will be easier to lose weight of your testosterone levels are normal.
GL

I'm hesistant to use pde 5 inhibittors both for the price, for the confidence reasons (I'm relatively young, i'd rather treat the underlying conditions such as being overweight or hormonal imbalance first, than start just popping up a pill before sex, let alone take it daily for the next 40+ years), for possible side effects reasons and being afraid of long term tolerance build up.



I mean I'd rather live without sex for a few more months than have a normal sex life, but always with cialis/viagra. I am unemployed, that doesn't do good for confidence and getting a grl to begin with [)] & low testosterone surely doesnt help. (im not treating the testosterone in any way, as I think I should first get rid of my overweight, instead of just jumping on TRT)

however, I'm not so firm in my belief and I'd consider using cialis once or twice when travelling, but absolutely the lowest possible dose.

I see the doses are 20 mg, 10 mg, 5 mg and apparently even 2.5 mg.

Based on the severity of my ED, Im sure I dont need 20 mg, a10 mg pill - i assume it would work great, 5mg might work OK as well, but 2.5mg, no idea...

to be clear, I never took them, I just know the degree of my ED so based on that im calculating the most likely best dose whiuch would still work for me...

anyway I've seen some people here claiming they take 20 mg twice per week and it works great, the popular daily dosage is one 5mg pill every day, but apparently also 2.5 mg

"'In June 2007, the European Commission approved low-dose (2.5 mg and 5 mg) Cialis to be used as single-daily ED therapy." (wikipedia)

im wondering if 2.5 mg taken not daily, but once before sex, could work at all ?
or is such a dose so small that the effect should be truly marginal ?

 

[Martin777]

Prelox... not Phylox
not sure if it's waste of money
no morning wood yet, but it's only been 10 days on it
there are clinical trials proving it works to some degree in most men, if taken long term, at least for mild, moderate ED

my T was twice just below 300, (summer 2009 and July 2010), now its 359 with no weight loss during whole year (sucks, i know)

its either because of zinc supplementation or vit D3 (which i overdosed a little, going from 13 ng/ml to ... 116 ng/ml !!! within 3 months).. or just because my personal life got better

im in some european country, healthcare sucks ass here, unless you go to private doctors, i was unemployed, hesistant to spend money on dr's, the test's i just paid on myself, we dont need a presription for doing blood tests

so i dont really want TRT, like you say, weightloss alone should help, but i was majorly depressed and unemployed and just didnt find the energy, mood, motivation to exercize and have a good diet, i had an extremely bad diet for years and a totally sedentary lifestyle


so i got some ED and low libido now, plan on losing 50 lbs, i hope it will be enough to restore optimal testosterone levels, without visiting endos, uros... obviously, if it doesnt work, i'll visit them one day...

i think you said, i should go on TRT to lose weight, but i want the opposite actually, dont want a life long commitment to TRT, would rather lose 50 lbs and see my testosterone increased and you admitted it should increase after 50 lbs weight loss

taking prelox now and researching cialis, because i want a temporary solution, can't delay normal sex life for another half a year

 

[zkt]

"i think you said, i should go on TRT to lose weight, but i want the opposite actually, dont want a life long commitment to TRT, would rather lose 50 lbs and see my testosterone increased and you admitted it should increase after 50 lbs weight loss"

You probably arent going to raise your T enough to matter by losing weight. I didnt mean to indicate otherwise. Sorry if I gave you the wrong impresssion about this.
The reason you are hypogonadal isnt because of the excess adipose tissue. True, it does increase the aromatization of T to E2 and and decreases T production via its effect on the HPG axis feedback loop.You will probably raise your T a little by losing weight. But if you do , you will still be in the lower percentiles of the normal range.
Your problem is much more likely to be caused by either insufficient pituitary LH secretion (secondary HG), reduced ability of the testes to respond to LH or simply not enough Leydig cells to make enought T (primary HG).
You need a proper workup to determine the cause and extent of the issue.
There are countless clinical studies enumerating the benefits of normal T levels and the problems a lack of it causes.
Dont have time to get into that now.
Perhaps someone else will.