Cjc-1295 with DAC

OP, did I read you correctly? You are pinning 500 micrograms at one shot? If so, I would drop it much lower.
What does this have to do with SARMS?
No boom dosing is between 2mg and 5mg at one shot. It has nothing to do with sarms, it's a peptide not a sarm
 
i used cjc dac last year. got 2 blood test and both showed no difference in igf-1 levels. then i used some gh and my levels doubled.

Who'd you get the CJC DAC from? Because it sounds like bunk stuff. If that were me, I woukdnt blame CJC-1295 DAC (clinically proven to work) I'd blame my source for selling me bunk shit as CJC-1295 DAC.
 
OP, did I read you correctly? You are pinning 500 micrograms at one shot? If so, I would drop it much lower.

I actually pinned 1mg (1000mcg) the first shot. Head almost exploded.

I then did 500mcg on a different day, again, head almost exploded.

A few days ago I did 50mcg, no effects felt.

The next day I did 100mcg, face got rosey, slight tingling in fingers and wrists.

Since then I've been pinning 150mcg 2x a day. My wrists and hands keep spontaneously becoming pumped and tingling at random intervals throughout the day. My face gets red after each shot but my head doesn't feel like it's a balloon inflating.

The thing is... 500mcg is not a big dose. We are talking CJC-1295 DAC here, not mod GRF 1-29 where 500mcg would be extreme. In the clinical studies involving CJC-1295 DAC they were dosing patients as high as 250mcg/kg once per week. In a 100kg person that would be 25 milligrams (not micrograms) in a single injection. I injected just 1mg and honestly thought for a moment I was going to die. I don't know how they could administer upwards of 25mg at once to someone.

For the record I've since run out of lr3igf-1 and ghrp-6. I'm now down to taking just the CJC-1295 DAC and MK-677 plus Clomid/exemestane. I will run out of mk-677 within the next 3 days I suspect. I will have enough CJC-1295 DAC to go about another week.

In the past 11 days alone my weight has increased 5kg. I'm not even shitting you. As soon as I started the CJC-1295 DAC and lr3igf-1 my weight shot up on a daily basis even though I've likely been eating less calories than usual. Will be intersting to see if I keep gaining now that I'm about 24 hours past my last shot of lr3igf-1.

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Why did you post this graph?

Did you get permission from the site?

To demonstrate the doses used in clinical studies. Up to 250mcg/kg. well beyond the dosage ranges I've tried, and something I can't even fathom given my reactions to much smaller dosing.

Permission from whom? The graph is data from a clinical study made public by the authors, link below for the published study:

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2005-1536
 
maybe you're not used to it, I do 300mcg/day of cjc 1295 Without DAC but once a month I do a boom dosing of 5mg cjc1295 Without DAC on one injection and have a good night sleep.
Things coud be different fot the CJC with DAC but I've never tried that one.
Hence why you were complaining of Carpel Tunnel in September. I have never heard of anybody injecting that much CJC no DAC (MOD GRF 1-29). I don't see the cost benefit.
 
I'm pretty sure you found this off of dats forum 1st....

But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong

I actually used google images search for "CJC-1295" as was too lazy to find the study at the time. If that image is from dats it's just taken from the study I posted and modified by adding color to the graph for better clarity (I guess by dat), although if I recall the Google images link was to professional muscle so someone had posted it there and Google indexed it.

Anyways time for my second shot of the day now. 150mcg, sub q in tummy, u-50 slin pin, 30 gauge, 8mm.
 
Don't wanna make another thread for this so I'll ask here: did CJC 1295 DAC shut you down? I know mod grf 1-29 doesn't due to how it works but I'm not exactly sure how the DAC version impacts you after you go off.
 
Don't wanna make another thread for this so I'll ask here: did CJC 1295 DAC shut you down? I know mod grf 1-29 doesn't due to how it works but I'm not exactly sure how the DAC version impacts you after you go off.

You mean shut down your pituitary function?

Not that I am aware of.
 
Yeah, like normal hgh does. I figured CJC DAC would too as it releases GH in a "bleed" like hgh.
Its very hard to actually shut down your body's GH release, unlike testosterone. Peptides, in general, are intended to BOOST your natural release. So, no, they will not shut down your production in any way.
 
Yeah, like normal hgh does. I figured CJC DAC would too as it releases GH in a "bleed" like hgh.

What your talking about is called Somatostatin, it's part of an ultra short feedback loop. When it rises GH release declines in response. But as mentioned, ultra short, unlike your testicular axis which seems to have a longer feedback loop.

I don't know exactly how short but someone here might know in terms of hours.

Peptides though work to promote release, does somatostatin rise when using peptides? Possibly? I've never seen any research on the matter nor have I tried seeking it out, but logically you'd think it would.

You could explore using Huperzine A which has been shown to lower somatostatin levels in conjunction with peptides for potential added benefit. In theory it should help, some guys do it.
 
It easier to view it this way

Peptides are the body guards that push somatostatin (crazy fans) out of the way. As well as causing the pulsation.

Hrh is the Super Star trying to perform at the concert. The concert is releasing your natural gh

Makes sense?

Haven't really looked at Huperzine A
 
It easier to view it this way

Peptides are the body guards that push somatostatin (crazy fans) out of the way. As well as causing the pulsation.

Hrh is the Super Star trying to perform at the concert. The concert is releasing your natural gh

Makes sense?

Haven't really looked at Huperzine A


Your claiming peptides such as CJC-1295 DAC and ghrp6/2 are inhibiting somatostatin release?

My understanding was they functioned as direct signallers ob the pituitary using the GHRH/secretagogue receptors. The HGH release would then trigger somatostatin release which would nullify or reduce the effects of the GHRH/GHRP.
 
Yes. The ghrp peptide are. The somatostatin is what stops your hormones from releasing. Hence, why I refer to them as the "crazy fans" or better yet let's call them "protester".

Somatostatin is constantly flowing through the body. We're using ghrp/ghrh to remove the somatostatin as well as promoting nautral gh release.

Maybe I should have said the Hrh is the body guards and Rockstar are the peptides...sorry if I confused you on that

Take a look at this below
What Does Somatostatin Do?
Somatostatin is also called SS, SST or SOM. This growth hormone inhibitory hormone affects several areas of the body by hindering the secretion of other hormones. Learning about this hormone’s role will help you better understand the complexities of the endocrine system and how they impact your overall health.

What Is Somatostatin?
Somatostatin is a hormone that many different tissues produce, but it is found primarily in the nervous and digestive systems. The primary function of somatostatin is to prevent the production of other hormones and also stop the unnatural rapid reproduction of cells — such as those that may occur in tumors. The hormone also acts as a neurotransmitter and has a role in the gastrointestinal tract.

How Does Somatostatin Function?
Somatostatin affects several areas of the body. In the hypothalamus, it regulates the secretion of hormones coming from the pituitary gland, including growth hormone and thyroid stimulating hormone. In the pancreas, somatostatin inhibits the secretion of pancreatic hormones, including glucagon and insulin. Finally, in the gastrointestinal tract, the hormone reduces gastric secretion and the emission of gastrointestinal hormones, such as secretin and gastrin.
 
But what are you basing GHRP/GHRHs activity as an inhibitor of somatostatin on? Is there research showcasing this claim? Can you post it here?

I'm just curious.
 
Interesting thread. Just want to throw my experience out there - I used CJC 1295 DAC at 250mcg E/O/D with GHRP-2 at 200mcg E/D for 3 months and had pretty good results. I gained 20 lbs (with some water retention but not much). I lowered my body fat to 12% from 16% (+/- 3% using calipers) and my strength went up over 50%. Not an exact science I know and every body is different but the gains were gradual and have lasted (didnt disappear after I stopped using). My point is - for me using DAC E/O/D worked well because it kept the levels high consistently. I don't think 1mg at once would have worked for me. Cheers
 

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