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MadMax89 said:
Anyone can acquire money its one thing men can/do leverage to get attention from women, looks are a genetic quality you are born with like height this really shouldn't be hard to understand and surgery isnt far off from using roids to enhance your genetic abilities or slightly improve them within reason.

Thanks for saying what i already explained on why the BP and looksmaxing were inevitable
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This is a perfect example of failed psychological projection.

You're using your own male brain which favour signs of fertility and health/youth and projecting that onto women.

Similar to how women after gaining status/employment think it makes them more attractive.

If women were so attracted to beauty/symmetry why hasn't this resulted in hyper specialisation like tournament mating species?

Your entire argument misses the social conditioning and adaptable nature of females.
 
bananafeet said:
If women were so attracted to beauty/symmetry why hasn't this resulted in hyper specialisation like tournament mating species?

Your entire argument misses the social conditioning and adaptable nature of females.
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it doesnt, just because women prefer a certain type of man doesn't mean they will be able to reproduce with that type of guy, think about this in regard to height the average height in the states is 5'9 but from data released from dating apps and other statistics, we know 5'9 isnt womens prefered height on average. if you are say 6'3 you are going to have more choice but that doesnt mean you are gonna breed every woman in America, thats why women will settle keyword is "settle" with a shorter guy that say makes 100k a year owns a house but that doesnt mean she has true attraction to him, look at the divorce rates and look at who is filing for them spoiler alert it isnt men. the main take a way with a lot of this stuff is a women will hook up with her dream man because men are easy in all looks/height categories and date down a lot of the time but that doesn't mean reproduction secondly will require more from their looksmatch then they ever did from their collage hookups that would have never taken them seriously in the first place. just like you said men do judge women also based on "genetic quality" but so do women.
 
id actually like to add to this i have seen in female spaces online, women talk about how they will be seeing a guy for long-term dating purposes and not hook up with him until like the 5th date or some crazy time period like that all while having a guy on the side that they are letting pound them out. that tells you everything you need to understand about women
 
MadMax89 said:
it doesnt, just because women prefer a certain type of man doesn't mean they will be able to reproduce with that type of guy, think about this in regard to height the average height in the states is 5'9 but from data released from dating apps and other statistics, we know 5'9 isnt womens prefered height on average. if you are say 6'3 you are going to have more choice but that doesnt mean you are gonna breed every woman in America, thats why women will settle keyword is "settle" with a shorter guy that say makes 100k a year owns a house but that doesnt mean she has true attraction to him, look at the divorce rates and look at who is filing for them spoiler alert it isnt men. the main take a way with a lot of this stuff is a women will hook up with her dream man because men are easy in all looks/height categories and date down a lot of the time but that doesn't mean reproduction secondly will require more from their looksmatch then they ever did from their collage hookups that would have never taken them seriously in the first place. just like you said men do judge women also based on "genetic quality" but so do women.
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You made your first mistake by trying to please women.

Women can't be made happy. People in general can't. We have a dopamine set point.

People who have lost limbs or won the lottery return to the same baseline of happiness in 6 months.

The main issue you are going to run into with meeting women is not your attractiveness but positive vetting. At the end of the day increasing your social circle or status and having a good standing in the community will do more than improving your looks from 6 to 9.

Women also have their own type. Just like men do. I know you like this ideology because it gives concrete and simplistic answers. But it's more complicated than that.

For example being more muscular has been shown not to be more attractive to women but a strong deterrent to intersexual competition. Not everything is about women.

To be honest women are too busy competing and sabotaging each other to worry about us too much.
 
bananafeet said:
The main issue you are going to run into with meeting women is not your attractiveness but positive vetting. At the end of the day increasing your social circle or status and having a good standing in the community will do more than improving your looks from 6 to 9.
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well this isnt about pleasing women its about attracting them in the first place, secondly you will never go from a 6 to a 9 not through surgery or roids you can go up 1 to 2 points max before you start looking uncanny or get botched trying to do some high risk surgery like Frank Tufano, the BP isnt even about looksmaxing btw its about how the world really works the cold hard truth not sugar coated, in many ways looksmaxing is a cope in its own form that will eventually be exposed to have huge limitations. i already mentioned using money and status to leverage women's attention but again that doesn't get you true attraction and thats what this whole topic is about, i mean you can be a old balding manlet and get to hook up/marry hot women way out of your league in south america, asia or even in places like Ukraine or russia because women use their bodies to gain resources/get a better life in the west through greencards, but you know what happens to men that bring those women back to the west with them they end up getting dumped because there was no true attraction in the first place and those women realize they can do even better in the west because their SMV is even higher in the west then in their own countries, a five in china well be treated like a 8 in the USA and they know that. again you will be a guy with status and resources truly attracted to some girl but at the end of the day shes only there because of what you have and if you had the right genetic make up you wouldnt need any of those things in the first place and god forbid you lose any of those things she will be gone again because there was no true attraction you're looks wasnt what was getting you the girl in the first place. and at the end of the day good looks are rarer than millionaires' basic economics scarcity drives up value.
bananafeet said:
For example being more muscular has been shown not to be more attractive to women but a strong deterrent to intersexual competition. Not everything is about women.
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An actual good point was made here i do agree, this and training in an actual combat sport to back up the muscle can help you in many occasions.
 
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MadMax89 said:
well this isnt about pleasing women its about attracting them in the first place, secondly you will never go from a 6 to a 9 not through surgery or roids you can go up 1 to 2 points max before you start looking uncanny or get botched trying to do some high risk surgery like Frank Tufano, the BP isnt even about looksmaxing btw its about how the world really works the cold hard truth not sugar coated, in many ways looksmaxing is a cope in its own form that will eventually be exposed to have huge limitations. i already mentioned using money and status to leverage women's attention but again that doesn't get you true attraction and thats what this whole topic is about, i mean you can be a old balding manlet and get to hook up/marry hot women way out of your league in south america, asia or even in places like Ukraine or russia because women use their bodies to gain resources/get a better life in the west through greencards, but you know what happens to men that bring those women back to the west with them they end up getting dumped because there was no true attraction in the first place and those women realize they can do even better in the west because their SMV is even higher in the west then in their own countries, a five in china well be treated like a 8 in the USA and they know that. again you will be a guy with status and resources truly attracted to some girl but at the end of the day shes only there because of what you have and if you had the right genetic make up you wouldnt need any of those things in the first place and god forbid you lose any of those things she will be gone again because there was no true attraction you looks wasnt what was getting you the girl. and at the end of the day good looks are rarer than millionaires' basic economics scarcity drives up value.

An actual good point was made here i do agree, this and training in an actual combat sport to back up the muscle can help you in many occasions.
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Just like Russian literature is mainly doom posting so is the Blackpill.

Sometimes women can love you for who you are and you can have a perfect marriage etc and they still cheat. Same with dudes. Life and relationships seem very stable from the outside but things are very fragile.

There is nothing you can do to guarantee loyalty or fidelity. Basically just have to act in good faith and hope it's reciprocated. Obviously don't get taken advantage of.

This is where having a moral compass and faith is important because you are doing what you feel is right, not what you feel will make you loved by another person.

This is why BP stuff gets such a knee jerk negative reaction. Having agency, autonomy and responsibility is the very essence of masculinity. Seeking approval, attraction and assurance is the very opposite.

Having sex with a woman is easy, raising and feeding the resulting child is the difficult and thankless part.
 
MadMax89 said:
id actually like to add to this i have seen in female spaces online, women talk about how they will be seeing a guy for long-term dating purposes and not hook up with him until like the 5th date or some crazy time period like that all while having a guy on the side that they are letting pound them out. that tells you everything you need to understand about women
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I have been to the place where wometry to plant htoughts in other women heads to eliminate people competing for their preferred mates in the datin market so the women posting/influencing women have a better chance of finding/ keeping their desired mate.
fixed it for you.

Remember: People sharing dating stories online are doing it either for profiit, current or future, and to mislead others/ make their own life easier. Just look at the Tea app or whatever it was called, it was just miserable people pulling each other down and sewing distrust, lyingto each other to hurt feelings/ make others paranoid.
 
IndividualMan said:
I have been to the place where wometry to plant htoughts in other women heads to eliminate people competing for their preferred mates in the datin market so the women posting/influencing women have a better chance of finding/ keeping their desired mate.
fixed it for you.

Remember: People sharing dating stories online are doing it either for profiit, current or future, and to mislead others/ make their own life easier. Just look at the Tea app or whatever it was called, it was just miserable people pulling each other down and sewing distrust, lyingto each other to hurt feelings/ make others paranoid.
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i think its pure copium to say a woman dating a man and not putting out while still actively putting out for another guy on the side isnt out of the realm of reason, this isnt a one off thing, ive heard this same scenario from both the male and female perspective as in a guy who was hooking up with a girl as causal thing but knew she was going on dates with men not putting out for them because she was looking for that "long term thing" and women trying to justify this behavior by saying that this is how they will select long term partners because if a guy is willing to go on five plus dates without sex he's probably gonna be more reliable then the guy shes hooking up with on the side, translation guy doesnt have much choice and this is the one women who is giving him attention so he will put up with her not putting out while the guy shes hooking up with on the side is probably more attractive but has less stability in his life so not so ideal for long term dating, now you could make a comment on the fairness of this towards the causal hookup guy but think to yourself which guy is getting the worse deal? why buy the cow when you already get the milk for free.
 
bananafeet said:
Having sex with a woman is easy, raising and feeding the resulting child is the difficult and thankless part.
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Hooking up doesnt always result in a child this isnt 1945 contraceptives exist, and yes being a oofy doofy to some wash up women who is now ready to settle down is definitely hard, especially when she gets bored and realizes she still has options even into her later years, one of the many copes men come up with is that women lose SMV with age and men gain it, but that isnt true if it was divorce rates wouldnt be so high, people literally run social experiments online where they will make a dating profile for themselves and one with their mother or even grandma and that profile will get double if not triple the matches that their sons/grandsons are getting, that goes to show a women can divorce you after ten to fifteen years of marriage rinse you in family court and than make a dating profile and be on a date the next day, yeah maybe she cant get some 25 year old stud but she can still find plenty lonely men that are willing to give her attention.
 
MadMax89 said:
Hooking up doesnt always result in a child this isnt 1945 contraceptives exist, and yes being a oofy doofy to some wash up women who is now ready to settle down is definitely hard, especially when she gets bored and realizes she still has options even into her later years, one of the many copes men come up with is that women lose SMV with age and men gain it, but that isnt true if it was divorce rates wouldnt be so high, people literally run social experiments online where they will make a dating profile for themselves and one with their mother or even grandma and that profile will get double if not triple the matches that their sons/grandsons are getting, that goes to show a women can divorce you after ten to fifteen years of marriage rinse you in family court and than make a dating profile and be on a date the next day, yeah maybe she cant get some 25 year old stud but she can still find plenty lonely men that are willing to give her attention.
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They can get sex, but not commitment from a man that they want.

You have to remember that most relationships are ended by women. If you make a decision you have to justify it. This is the reason why women act like they are happy with how things turned out.

The truth is much more sinister. Look at the poverty and homelessness rates.. There is a massive spike for older women.

You're projecting your psychology again. Sex isn't nearly as important as long term commitment and provision.

As for divorce, most men recover financially very quickly.

You're just looking at one side of the story.
 
Have you got anything else going on in your life, any other way to spend your free time except looks/height/cockmaxxing? Yes, the gym, that's a given (considering the place that we're in atm). BUT, anything else, which would make you feel a tad better, make you feel fulfilled, make you feel like you matter in a way? Not in any way connected to vanity?

Like, volunteering, for example?

I mean, I'm not reading all of what you've written, so sorry that happened to you, or, yay, I'm happy for you, I guess?

The thing that we all can take from the org forum and from the maxxing community is that they have a brutal inner turmoil - they both despise themselves and despise the person in front of them, whom they try to attract. Like doctor Freud would say, "unresolved inner conflicts lead to neuroses". And he couldn't be more right.
 
MadMax89 said:
Hooking up doesnt always result in a child this isnt 1945 contraceptives exist, and yes being a oofy doofy to some wash up women who is now ready to settle down is definitely hard, especially when she gets bored and realizes she still has options even into her later years, one of the many copes men come up with is that women lose SMV with age and men gain it, but that isnt true if it was divorce rates wouldnt be so high, people literally run social experiments online where they will make a dating profile for themselves and one with their mother or even grandma and that profile will get double if not triple the matches that their sons/grandsons are getting, that goes to show a women can divorce you after ten to fifteen years of marriage rinse you in family court and than make a dating profile and be on a date the next day, yeah maybe she cant get some 25 year old stud but she can still find plenty lonely men that are willing to give her attention.
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What is your thesis here? I’ve heard dating apps described as men searching for drinking water in a desert and women searching for drinking water in a swamp.

Are you thinking that all men are interested in a fulfilling long term relationship? Or that all women are interested in leveraging their vagina ownership against these well intentioned men?

Are you mad because you’ve had bad experiences in sex and love? Is there some pervasive injustice that you see but I can’t?
 
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