Clavicular doing a good job keeping BP tards off meso

[PrinceofDarkness]

I prefer the aggression, strength, and clarity of mind over the floaty feeling. opiates are only good for removing pain, not great for long time use. ( chronic misuse after fcked surgery, essentially weaning myself off bit by bit over the course of a year, no shame in that)
The other stuff is too hyper for me, not good. rec drugs in general are pretty meh.


in what way? saying i enjoy it more than other stuff is not moving the goal post, it is stating my own preferences, experiences and my reasoning for it.

that is a real issue, but the first thing does not primarily affect women. it has secondary effect on women by destroying the minds of men, causing their future partnes immense hurt,

then go look for a woman you consider to be proper and stop bitching about the women you are not interested in doing stuff you dont like/not wanting you.


barely understandable bro. please rephrase it (first part especially, another form of fact?) (not being snarky, I want to understand what you are trying to say)

I wouldnt know, not too fond of large age gaps.

being outgoing is the #1 strategy for gaining access to large numbers of potential partners. It is counterproductive to be excessively cautious.

While BP has some truth to it, people like you are just using it as cagefuel/cope as to why their existence is someone elses fault.

Dawg I’m genuinely curious are you tested for autism? I’m stating that there are múltiple avenues of factual info out there. I’ve been in public to date women. I’m not in my 30s or 40s. I’m turning 30 soon. It isn’t counterproductive because it’s just a driving factor to improve on different parameters of what makes a man: status(networth, network intelligence), strength, looks etc.

Blackpill is a doomer mindset. The looksmaxxing ideology extrapolates the positives of the blackpill. Anyone who is using peds is looksmaxxing and is using a form of blackpill to do so since it’s a hardmaxx outside of surgery. When you take this stuff you’re likely forever needing to pin trt. Only extreme outliers can return to baseline or above. I’m not saying be a doomer. You keep stupidly attaching the two together. There is positive info from those forums that men can use to better theirselves. That doesn’t mean project hate all the time. The result of them leading that way is likely due to rejection from their crush. But it’s no secret that looks matter and people get treated better when they are. Outside of performance and being strong who tf wants to look like an ogre open bodybuilder if your not getting paid? Cmon bro use some logic here. How old are you that you don’t understand simple logic?

No one is bitching its information that is out there and I’m just presenting it to you. If you happen to be in said shitty relationship where you end up being the cuck or betabuxx wallet than that’s on you.

I’m not complaining about my existence. lol I’m happy with the trajectory of my life and where I’m going but to ignore facts is just stupid.

 

[IndividualMan]

Only extreme outliers can return to baseline

cope, most people can return to about 5-600ish
also, I am not the guy mixing up BP and Looksmaxxing, thats the other dude in this thread.

There is positive info from those forums that men can use to better theirselves. That doesn’t mean project hate all the time.

Barely anyone takes anything positive from forums like PUAhate or .org, plus you cant point at exceptions and take them as the rule

utside of performance and being strong who tf wants to look like an ogre open bodybuilder if your not getting paid?

Massive cope, the number of people who actually take enough gear&GH to look even remotely like open guys is incredibly low

Cmon bro use some logic here. How old are you that you don’t understand simple logic?

you seem to be the one not following a consistent argumentative framework. You throw in a few buzzwords to present yoursefl as rational/logical, but there is no valid substance to your argument besides the obvious:
Looks improve QoL.
Anything else you say is your personal conviction, formed by years of being fed slop and not reflecting on the information you are consuming. Your Framework is not consistent, you accuse others of moving goalposts while you yourself are doing it to a far greater extent.

You present your own shitty, miserableinterpretation of the world as facts, and Cope massively when people tell you that their experiences are different. You lash out, use bad faith arguments, and dont seem to actually confront any of my statements. You simply throw out your little phrases, never to learn, never to change.
You simply throw up random little side tangents in every one of your posts, each with no substance behind them.

All that to promote a harmful worldview/ harmful interpretation of the BP on a harm reduction forum.
The young people joining this forum from .org are all suffering from the same cagefuel worldview you hold, and instead of helping them out (or at least shutting up and not posting, letting other people try to help them) you post stuf hat pushes them deeper down their pit of despair.

edit: also, saying "factss bro" does not make your odd statements factual

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

cope, most people can return to about 5-600ish
also, I am not the guy mixing up BP and Looksmaxxing, thats the other dude in this thread.

Barely anyone takes anything positive from forums like PUAhate or .org, plus you cant point at exceptions and take them as the rule

Massive cope, the number of people who actually take enough gear&GH to look even remotely like open guys is incredibly low

you seem to be the one not following a consistent argumentative framework. You throw in a few buzzwords to present yoursefl as rational/logical, but there is no valid substance to your argument besides the obvious:
Looks improve QoL.
Anything else you say is your personal conviction, formed by years of being fed slop and not reflecting on the information you are consuming. Your Framework is not consistent, you accuse others of moving goalposts while you yourself are doing it to a far greater extent.

You present your own shitty, miserableinterpretation of the world as facts, and Cope massively when people tell you that their experiences are different. You lash out, use bad faith arguments, and dont seem to actually confront any of my statements. You simply throw out your little phrases, never to learn, never to change.
You simply throw up random little side tangents in every one of your posts, each with no substance behind them.

All that to promote a harmful worldview/ harmful interpretation of the BP on a harm reduction forum.
The young people joining this forum from .org are all suffering from the same cagefuel worldview you hold, and instead of helping them out (or at least shutting up and not posting, letting other people try to help them) you post stuf hat pushes them deeper down their pit of despair.

edit: also, saying "factss bro" does not make your odd statements factual

Jesus you sound so insufferable dude keep crying. I’m not arguing with a copecel like yourself. I haven’t even visited the PUAhate websites just looksmaxxing.org which in itself was toxic before it became softer in recent years. I’m not here to argue.

 

[IndividualMan]

Jesus you sound so insufferable dude keep crying. I’m not arguing with a copecel like yourself. I haven’t even visited the PUAhate websites just looksmaxxing.org which in itself was toxic before it became softer in recent years. I’m not here to argue.

incredibly grey.
holy newgen despite being old af

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

incredibly grey.
holy newgen despite being old af

Copecel barker raising cortisol for no reason. Incredible subiqlet

 

[malfeasance]

Is the whole, "I ran over somebody and rammed the other truck but the police will not prosecute me" all just social media made up fiction?

 

[MadMax89]

crazy to see roiders hate on the bp and hate on looksmaxxing while using PEDs to enhance their subpar genetics to achieve something they could never naturally, and that is widely looked down on by the vast majority of society. i literally see people on here giving advice for athletes that are using peds like bro if normal people could see you guys they would think your insecure and cheaters, you guys act towards us the way normies view you. complete comedy

 

[a1b2c3]

This is fucking sad, man. Gutwrenching, even.

But it's all by design. It's all meticulously fabricated, and the execution couldn't be more successful. Keep arguing, keep consuming this rot on the pretense that that's "real life", and by doing so, actually shape the "real life."


"The only way to win is not to play."

 

[IndividualMan]

Is the whole, "I ran over somebody and rammed the other truck but the police will not prosecute me" all just social media made up fiction?

he hit a guy, yes, but this specific case is ruled as self defense.

 

[IndividualMan]

crazy to see roiders hate on the bp and hate on looksmaxxing while using PEDs to enhance their subpar genetics to achieve something they could never naturally, and that is widely looked down on by the vast majority of society. i literally see people on here giving advice for athletes that are using peds like bro if normal people could see you guys they would think your insecure and cheaters, you guys act towards us the way normies view you. complete comedy

the only thing we have in common is our disdain for normies and affinity to substance use.
The most important difference between you guys and us here on meso is that we tell kids not to do this, and you actively harm them by spreading your worldview.

 

[MadMax89]

I think wanting to look the best is good, it gets a bad rep because you got a ton of autists thinking they’re Patrick Bateman. Like I get wanting to look good , roids , surgery’s whatever, do it. But some of it seems really gay. What is the difference between bp and looksmax ? Bp= Elliot rogers ??

Awww someone wants to be spoonfed, how about you do a little research and dont be so ignorant.

 

[MadMax89]

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The Blackpill is just laziness disguised as some kind of intellectual revelation because people are too lazy to fight to the death for their bloodline and would rather blame 3mm of jaw thickness for their abject failure.

fight to the death? i didint know we could still kill and rape to extend our bloodlines like in the pre-civilization era.

 

[Gonz0]

Awww someone wants to be spoonfed, how about you do a little research and dont be so ignorant.

This is what I mean lol