Clavicular doing a good job keeping BP tards off meso

Does bang for buck make sense to you? You will have 10x more bang for your buck if you improve looks vs the mythical personality that somehow nobody has except for ugly guys.

Most of them aren't talking about getting any girlfriend. They're talking about having options to choose the one that you like and having the ability to get short term ones consistently. There's a Massive gap between those things.

If you don't look, at the very least, slightly above average, you're just wasting your time by trying to pursue women for anything other than lifelong relationship.
You are so wrong it's pathetic. There are way more funny fat guys with hot chicks than there are looksmaxxing dweebs with hot chicks. I am old and ugly with a beautiful woman. When you grow out of your self-hatred stage, you will discover women aren't as shallow and disappointing as you are.
 
No argument points made at all just deflection like a typical moron. You lack the context of the convo. Again I'm not here to argue. I don't lack self esteem brah. I likely have better health parameters than you. Majority of individuals on this forum are likely more blackpilled than me.
I think you're estrogen might be spiking from bitching too much. Take an ai you need it kid.
OK sad little nerd. You're the one who can't meet a woman. Lol. I love it when some kid tells an old man what it takes to meet a decent woman.
 
Bro.

Taking gear makes the gym HARDER. It's not some magically sauce that makes all the hard work go away.

Males reside in a competence hierarchy. It doesn't matter how fat, ugly or mean you are if you're good at your job.

This is such a female view of the world you have. If women gave as much of a fuck about looks as you think the male species would be the better looking one (like birds for example).

Just as no man gives a shit about a female's profession, no female gives a damn about a man's looks. Looks at the WW2 German troops. They would deliberately engage in sword fights and get scars which disfigured their faces.

Why? It was a sign of masculinity.


Why don't you learn about real science?


Humans (especially Europeans) are a highly sexually dimorphic species that engage in tournament mating. Being attractive is not as important as feats of strength, competence and social standing.

Females are the ones that compete over looks.
Jesus dude how many times do I have to repeat to you absolute illiterates that looks isn’t the only parameter but it’s another measurable parameter that is subjective and objective based on person to person and society. Both you and the continuous fucking retards who keep peddling this argument that I’m making about looks being the utmost importance is retarded. I’ve stated over and over again that it matters but obviously other things are important too.

Dimorphism in females and males is looks btw. The hierarchy of competition based on dimorphism includes looks. Does it include other parameters. Just ignore my comments because it’s pointless talking repeating points that I’m agreeing on but you keep pivoting back like someone with a mental disorder.
 
OK sad little nerd. You're the one who can't meet a woman. Lol. I love it when some kid tells an old man what it takes to meet a decent woman.
Huh? I have a list of women off dating apps. That’s I’ve seen and can date oldcel . Yes I’m telling you being a man and improving on every parameter of that matters. Otherwise throw away the sauce. Shrivel up, let go over yourself, become broke and you’ll still get em. Why because your funny lmfao

I’m not replying to your useless takes anymore.
 

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Huh? I have a list of women off dating apps. That’s I’ve seen and can date oldcel . Yes I’m telling you being a man and improving on every parameter of that matters. Otherwise throw away the sauce. Shrivel up, let go over yourself, become broke and you’ll still get em. Why because your funny lmfao

I’m not replying to your useless takes anymore.
You look a bit like don ALI
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Huh? I have a list of women off dating apps. That’s I’ve seen and can date oldcel . Yes I’m telling you being a man and improving on every parameter of that matters. Otherwise throw away the sauce. Shrivel up, let go over yourself, become broke and you’ll still get em. Why because your funny lmfao

I’m not replying to your useless takes anymore.
Good luck, kid. You've got to respect the women, and yourself, if you want them to stick around.
 
Jesus dude how many times do I have to repeat to you absolute illiterates that looks isn’t the only parameter but it’s another measurable parameter that is subjective and objective based on person to person and society. Both you and the continuous fucking retards who keep peddling this argument that I’m making about looks being the utmost importance is retarded. I’ve stated over and over again that it matters but obviously other things are important too.

Dimorphism in females and males is looks btw. The hierarchy of competition based on dimorphism includes looks. Does it include other parameters. Just ignore my comments because it’s pointless talking repeating points that I’m agreeing on but you keep pivoting back like someone with a mental disorder.
This thread is looksmaxxing related. The term itself is about the maximising of looks.

If you want to be a pretty boy, a beautiful boy, an attractive boy. Go ahead.

It will probably go over well with preteen and immature women. But I'm not interested.

I have not got one solitary compliment from a woman about my muscles. So that fact you somehow equate steroid abuse with wanting to appease women is ridiculous.

Getting big muscles mainly attracts gay dudes and old horny women.

Looksmaxxing and this Blackpill community has to be the most regressive and self absorbed community on the planet. As a man I couldn't care less about having a pretty face if my chest was as undeveloped as a 12 year old boy.

It's so senseless to me. Anyway I wish you good luck on your journey of somehow controlling women with your looks.
 
You are so wrong it's pathetic. There are way more funny fat guys with hot chicks than there are looksmaxxing dweebs with hot chicks. I am old and ugly with a beautiful woman. When you grow out of your self-hatred stage, you will discover women aren't as shallow and disappointing as you are.
Well, that confirmed my suspicion - you don't understand bang for buck, and you still fail to acknowledge the options and consistency aspect.

You argue that the sky is not blue because you saw it glow red one morning. That's your funny fat guy with a hot chick analogy.

Some women aren't shallow, but guess what - biologically they're still women, basic rules of attraction still work the same, a good-looking guy will have the upper hand every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
 
Well, that confirmed my suspicion - you don't understand bang for buck, and you still fail to acknowledge the options and consistency aspect.

You argue that the sky is not blue because you saw it glow red one morning. That's your funny fat guy with a hot chick analogy.

Some women aren't shallow, but guess what - biologically they're still women, basic rules of attraction still work the same, a good-looking guy will have the upper hand every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Relationships aren't transactional. There is no "bang for buck". That's what losers who don't respect themselves or their partners think. You sound like some already washed up womanizer desperately trying to get laid.
 
I have not got one solitary compliment from a woman about my muscles. So that fact you somehow equate steroid abuse with wanting to appease women is ridiculous.

Getting big muscles mainly attracts gay dudes and old horny women.
Social media is literally filled with millions of women who are extremely thirsty for biceps and you're not getting any compliments? Either you're way past what someone would call muscular and you're into mass monster category or you're too small idk
 
Social media is literally filled with millions of women who are extremely thirsty for biceps and you're not getting any compliments? Either you're way past what someone would call muscular and you're into mass monster category or you're too small idk
You know women act hypersexual to GET attention from men? You can never know what is true or what is some kind of act to garner attention.

If there was even 0.5% of the female population that was as motivated by the male physique as men are by women it would be a multi billion dollar industry.

Women spend most of the household income, they are the biggest consumers.

They don't spend their money on male porn, but rather literature, dildos and makeup.
 
Relationships aren't transactional. There is no "bang for buck". That's what losers who don't respect themselves or their partners think. You sound like some already washed up womanizer desperately trying to get laid.
If you don't understand the basic principles, I don't know what to tell you. It's super simple - line goes up, or line goes down - those are your chances and success with the opposite gender, given different variables.

Refusing all aspects of looks improvement just because it sounds gay or shallow is disrespecting yourself
 
If there was even 0.5% of the female population that was as motivated by the male physique as men are by women it would be a multi billion dollar industry.

They don't spend their money on male porn, but rather literature, dildos and makeup.
When you already have an oversupply of men willing to satisfy you there's little need for porn. You just need to attract the right ones, and that's why makeup, clothing, and dating apps are all billion-dollar industries.
 
When you already have an oversupply of men willing to satisfy you there's little need for porn. You just need to attract the right ones, and that's why makeup, clothing, and dating apps are all billion-dollar industries.
Well that only satisfies one of the two sexual selection strategies of females.



Intrasexual competition - male to male is the biggest indicator of sexual competitiveness and outcomes.

There is no evolutionary psychology basis for beautiful boys getting all the clunge.

Intrasexual competition amongst females is the main driver of the beauty industry.

If you read the science you will find that the dual selection strategy of females evolved to prefer provision over short term sexual encounters due to the energy required to raise children.

There is a difference between K and R life history strategies. If you want to attract fast women with low IQs, low impulse control and little care for their offspring go ahead lol

It won't matter how many children you father because they will all end up being losers.
 
If you don't understand the basic principles, I don't know what to tell you. It's super simple - line goes up, or line goes down - those are your chances and success with the opposite gender, given different variables.

Refusing all aspects of looks improvement just because it sounds gay or shallow is disrespecting yourself
I understand your clown principles. You're not that deep. Just a sad kid who is unable to recognize his own intrinsic value, and so he projects his own self-loathing onto women. You may get laid, but you will never be fulfilled.
 
I understand your clown principles. You're not that deep. Just a sad kid who is unable to recognize his own intrinsic value, and so he projects his own self-loathing onto women. You may get laid, but you will never be fulfilled.
I don't need to project anything. I only need to observe and evaluate the path to preferential outcomes, and it's not the path of self-disrespect that a lot of you prefer.

Self-loathing, funny fat guy, personality, social circle. All those arguments and assumptions are silly, it's you attaching the extremes to the moderate idea with no regard for trends or averages.
There is a difference between K and R life history strategies. If you want to attract fast women with low IQs, low impulse control and little care for their offspring go ahead lol

It won't matter how many children you father because they will all end up being losers.
I don't mind that at all, it's inevitable. I choose to attract the entire pool of women instead of a specific subset.

The ability to choose from many individuals, based on the goals and wishes at a given moment, is more valuable for me than focusing on the future offspring outcomes. I'd be totally fine without having one, and that's true for a lot of people these days.
 
I don't need to project anything. I only need to observe and evaluate the path to preferential outcomes, and it's not the path of self-disrespect that a lot of you prefer.

Self-loathing, funny fat guy, personality, social circle. All those arguments and assumptions are silly, it's you attaching the extremes to the moderate idea with no regard for trends or averages.

I don't mind that at all, it's inevitable. I choose to attract the entire pool of women instead of a specific subset.

The ability to choose from many individuals, based on the goals and wishes at a given moment, is more valuable for me than focusing on the future offspring outcomes. I'd be totally fine without having one, and that's true for a lot of people these days.
Enjoy your sterile sex.
 
I don't need to project anything. I only need to observe and evaluate the path to preferential outcomes, and it's not the path of self-disrespect that a lot of you prefer.

Self-loathing, funny fat guy, personality, social circle. All those arguments and assumptions are silly, it's you attaching the extremes to the moderate idea with no regard for trends or averages.

I don't mind that at all, it's inevitable. I choose to attract the entire pool of women instead of a specific subset.

The ability to choose from many individuals, based on the goals and wishes at a given moment, is more valuable for me than focusing on the future offspring outcomes. I'd be totally fine without having one, and that's true for a lot of people these days.
Oddly enough, you will eventually realize you only attract low self esteem women. No woman of character and value, a woman who sees her own value and worth, will settle for a transactional relationship.
 
Social media is literally filled with millions of women who are extremely thirsty for biceps and you're not getting any compliments? Either you're way past what someone would call muscular and you're into mass monster category or you're too small idk
Are you talking about the thots on Instagram? Worth a twirl in the bed and then on to the next, for both of you. How sad.
 
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