Clen

[AirBorne]

I see AirBornette has been posting questions about clen. I never really read up on the drug until yesterday. So im still soaking up info on it. Her goals are mainly to drop BF%. I have her on a lifting program that she starts this afternoon and I have her doing cardio 4 days a week. She is interested in clen for dropping BF, but I too am interested in what I read about it. I never heard anyone say they use it during PCT or shortly there after to keep gains.......this is what one website said about it. Is this true? Does it help preserve muscle mass and drop BF at the end of a cycle? ANy input would be great.

thanks

AirBorne

 

[Shockrock3]

ABSOLUTEY...Clen is one of the best compounds you can take post cycle (along with Clomid, etc). It is a VERY anti-catabolic compound so it preserves muscle mass while helping to rid excess fat. I NEVER do a bridge, etc. without Clen.

Shock

 

[that]

throw some t3 in with it to! will do the trick without question!

 

[Pup'nIrn]

throw some t3 in with it to! will do the trick without question!

no no no......not for a female. T3 is not worth the risk for your wife. Stick with clen only.

 

[DonnC]

ABSOLUTEY...Clen is one of the best compounds you can take post cycle (along with Clomid, etc). It is a VERY anti-catabolic compound so it preserves muscle mass while helping to rid excess fat. I NEVER do a bridge, etc. without Clen.

Shock

There is no proof Clen has any anti-catabolic properties for humans. I believe it works on the Beta-3 receptor in livestock to be anti-catabolic for them. Humans have only a small amount of the Beta-3 receptor.

 

[DonnC]

From the Clen profile on BB.com

"In several animal studies1,2,3 Clenbuterol was also shown to act as an anabolic, believed to be able to impart muscle gains. This was never demonstrated in humans4 however, and there is more evidence that its effect on catabolic hormones invokes the opposite. In any case, the animal studies used much higher doses5 then one would safely recommend for humans. The late Dan Duchaine, by many held in high regard as a steroid guru and a former writer of the now defunct MM2K, believed it had something to do with the stimulation of a third beta receptor, which was different in humans as opposed to other mammals, and that this was the reason humans did not receive any anabolic benefits. As with most of what Dan said, this is very questionable, but one of many possible explanations in a debate that still rages on. Despite the many claims of other bodybuilders that still swear it has some form of anabolic action, I must say I've seen enough proof to the contrary to strongly advise against buying clenbuterol for promoting muscle mass. You may be more than sorely disappointed. Next time you see a 230 pound, 6 foot top-level cyclist, let me know and I may change my mind."

 

[AirBorne]

isnt T3 catabolic? What is the full name of the drug.....T3 isnt in the drug profiles section. id like to research it. thanks for the replies

 

[bigkb]

isnt T3 catabolic? What is the full name of the drug.....T3 isnt in the drug profiles section. id like to research it. thanks for the replies

The drug name is liothyronine. From what I have heard, muscle loss from T3 use is not a worry as long as sufficient calories are taken in.

KB

 

[Phreezer]

How I administer Clenbuterol:

I do 12 days on and 12 days off. Some people do a full two weeks on and two weeks off, but I feel that after about 12 days the receptors are done, and taking more clen is pointless. It takes about 12-14 days after your last dose for them to recover enough to start administering clen again.

I use an ephedrine caffeine stack during the time I am not on clen. You can take them together if you really want to, ephedrine targets differant receptors than clenbuterol, but I don't like to do this because my heartrate is allready high enough from the clen.

Here's the stack.

Day 1 - 40mcg
Day 2 - 60mcg
Day 3 - 60mcg
Day 4 - 80mcg
Day 5 - 80mcg
Day 6/12 - 100mcg (from here out its up to you) From here you can go up another 20mcg ed untill you get the shakes, once this happens drop the dosage by 20mcg and BANG thats your tolerance level for clen.

Day 13 start taking an ECA stack (whatever dosage you are comfortable with)

Once the 12-14 days are over, you start back taking the clenbuterol for another 12 days, you cycle up a little differant this time....

Day 1 - 40mcg
Day 2 - 60mcg
Day 3 - 80mcg
Day 4 - 100mcg
Day 5 - (again from here out its up to you)

I very rarely go over 120mcg ED but some people are less sensative. I monitor my pulse. If I take my entire dose in the morning, I check my heartrate about an hour and a half later, and make sure I don't have the shakes. My resting heartrate is around 75 bpm, so If Two hours after taking my dose my resting heartrate is around 105-110 bpm, I don't need to take anymore.

WRT Liquid, It's pretty much the same as the tabs, you just need to know what the microgram per ML ratio is, and administer it the same. Clen survives the digestive tract very well, so there isn't a real differance between liquid or tabs.