joe shmoe said:
clomid starts 2 weeks after last shot. which brings about another point. the deca should be stopped 1-2 weeks before the test, so that it'll clear the system about the same time as the test. so my advice is to run test for 12 weeks, and deca for 10. running test for 10 weeks and deca for 8 isnt that great because the deca wont be in "full effect" till about week 4 or 5, so it would be a shame to cut it at week 12.
back to the PCT question. run the hCG @ about 750-1000 iu's ED for 10 days. time it so that your last hCG shot will be about the same time as you start clomid. so, with enanthate, you'll start clomid 14 days after last shot. so start hCG from about day 4 after last shot...and run it for 10 days.
have a nice day
Looks good- 1}I would start the Hcg 7 days before the last shot of test- so it ends just after your last shot. you want the spike in test from the Hcg to fall as well as the injected test this way you will still have the benefits of the Hcg- a reversal of teste atrophy with none of the suppression of elevated test and thus a hindered Hpta- if you start it earlier. Preferably- I have adopted this method after numerous competitors recommended it- use 250iu upto a max of 500iu 2 times a week every week of the cycle. so 12 weeks in this case. the idea being- keep your nuts working and
prevent the testicles atrophying in the
first place. 2}Arimidex is a good idea to keep estrogen under control if you bloat easily as excess estrogen actually downregulates the pituitarys response to LHRH- meaning too high estrogen on cycle can make recovery after very hard.
but do not use excess arimidex as too low estrogen desensitises the Hpta also. Your dose is a good sensible amount pal...
3}The orals- 10 weeks on straight is a little long for my liking- I would use Dianabol for 4 weeks then use winstrol for weeks ten to 14. winstrol orals clear very quickly and taking the winstrol while the test and deca clear will give you added anabolic support
right up til Pct rather than have barely any steroid left to be anabolic and too much to recover if stopping it with the last shot of test. plus you can more benefit from winstrols hardening effect in the absence of most the deca. Use clomid at a loaded dose of 300-400mg then 50mg a day. if you have any questions just ask mate.
To summarise Joes use of test and deca are good I would follow that- 10 weeks deca- 12 weeks test. of course load up on both- 600mg of deca the 1st. day and 750mg of test will do nicely. I would tweak other aspects somewhat;
1} preferably use Hcg 250-500iu twice a week for 12 weeks. If not 1000iu a day for ten days mid cycle and at the end- starting 7 days before your last shot{so you finish 3 days after last shot}
2} your arimidex dose is good but you should not take it through clomid and Pct- it will drive your estrogen too low and cause problems recovering. Stop the arimidex when you do your last shot of test.your current dose is sensible.
3} orals- dianabol weeks 1 to 4. winstrol weeks 10 to 14- you will have a much better anabolic effect right up til Pct this way and the winstrol hardening will get to work better in the absence of most of the deca.
4} a loaded dose of clomid 300-400mg then 50mg a day about 2 weeks after your last shot is good.
