Comments on this cycle please

[cathex]

I would like some comments on this cycle which was given to me by a good friend of mine here in the UK. He has been competing for 20 or so years and his most recent competition was the Mr World a couple or three yrs ago in which he placed top three.

This stack is intended to give me some size and quality gains. My initial intention was to go for a classic deca/test 8 wk cycle but he advised me to try something different for a change, so I have taken his advice and will begin shortly.

Here we go then.

wks 1-2 150mg masteron + 300mg deca
wks 3-6 500mg sus + 400mg boldabol + 20mg nolva/day
wks 7-8 100mg masteron + 200mg deca + 50mg proviron
wk 9 25mg proviron/day
wk 10 HCG
wk 11-13 clomid therapy

As stated above, comments would be welcome but I would also like to share this with anyone looking for something a little different form the cliche stacks that seem to prevail.

 

[Fast Food]

I would like some comments on this cycle which was given to me by a good friend of mine here in the UK. He has been competing for 20 or so years and his most recent competition was the Mr World a couple or three yrs ago in which he placed top three.

This stack is intended to give me some size and quality gains. My initial intention was to go for a classic deca/test 8 wk cycle but he advised me to try something different for a change, so I have taken his advice and will begin shortly.

Here we go then.

wks 1-2 150mg masteron + 300mg deca
wks 3-6 500mg sus + 400mg boldabol + 20mg nolva/day
wks 7-8 100mg masteron + 200mg deca + 50mg proviron
wk 9 25mg proviron/day
wk 10 HCG
wk 11-13 clomid therapy

As stated above, comments would be welcome but I would also like to share this with anyone looking for something a little different form the cliche stacks that seem to prevail.

more more moreeeeeeeeeeee

 

[MaxRep]

There's a reason why birds fly South for the Winter.

There's a reason why snakes shed their skin.

And there's a reason why educated people don't use cycles like the one above.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[SikFuk!]

I would like some comments on this cycle which was given to me by a good friend of mine here in the UK. He has been competing for 20 or so years and his most recent competition was the Mr World a couple or three yrs ago in which he placed top three.

This stack is intended to give me some size and quality gains. My initial intention was to go for a classic deca/test 8 wk cycle but he advised me to try something different for a change, so I have taken his advice and will begin shortly.

Here we go then.

wks 1-2 150mg masteron + 300mg deca
wks 3-6 500mg sus + 400mg boldabol + 20mg nolva/day
wks 7-8 100mg masteron + 200mg deca + 50mg proviron
wk 9 25mg proviron/day
wk 10 HCG
wk 11-13 clomid therapy

As stated above, comments would be welcome but I would also like to share this with anyone looking for something a little different form the cliche stacks that seem to prevail.

I would stick wiht what you were going to do in the first place...stick with the test/deca cycle...if you go 8 weeks, I would front load.

 

[Fronkthis]

Could I just ask what is your logic behind this cycle?
2 weeks of masteron and deca? then completely switching it up? and then back to deca mast? I really dont get it.

I really do think you need to do WWWAAAAYYYYY more research before doing AAS.

 

[Deacon]

this is the most screwed up foolish waste of cash I have ever seen - not to flame you bro but this cycle won't do shit for you and you might as well piss the money away on something else.

It does not make any sense at all.

 

[latinpride1]

bro the only fast acting substance there is the masteron, everything else (besides the nolva, and proviron) are slow acting, so for you to use deca, or sus for 2, and 3 weeks, makes no sense, it would take 3-4 weeks for the most of the esters in the sus to even start kicking in.....if you want to try a short, fast acting cycle, with less water gain, and more hardness...why dont you go with prop, bold prop, and npp....keep the masteron, or even better replace it with tren.....prop, bold prop, and tren would be a nice cycle, and will give you some solid lean gains...LP

 

[cathex]

Elaborate

Could you clarify yourself and say why they don't use cyles like this then MaxRep. It will help to educate me and all others who read this thread.
Thanx.

 

[MaxRep]

Could you clarify yourself and say why they don't use cyles like this then MaxRep. It will help to educate me and all others who read this thread.
Thanx.

I was wondering what your response would be and I have to say I'm impressed.

Here's your proposed cycle:

wks 1-2 150mg masteron + 300mg deca
wks 3-6 500mg sus + 400mg boldabol + 20mg nolva/day
wks 7-8 100mg masteron + 200mg deca + 50mg proviron
wk 9 25mg proviron/day
wk 10 HCG
wk 11-13 clomid therapy

1. You start off with 2 weeks of a minimal amount of Deca which gets it's name from the slow acting Decanoate ester used. You stop the Deca before it's effects are even noticed.

2. You also start off with 150mg's of masteron which is reasonably fast acting but with such a small dose it's effects will only be minimally noticed at best. It's very likely that after the first 2 weeks, you won't notice any changes.

3. Next comes 4 weeks of sustanon and Eq. The sustanon has one short ester Test, 2 medium ester Tests and 1 long acting Test. At that dosage, you'll start to notice differences in about 2 weeks, but then just 2 weeks later you stop.

4. The Eq uses the slow acting, 11 carbon undec. ester. At that dosage you'll start to notice Eq's effects right about the time you stop taking it.

5. Next we're back to 2 weeks of very low dose masteron and deca. At those doses there will be almost no benefit other than as a replacement for your by now totally suppressed natural testosterone. The proviron is a waste, no benefit when taken with those products or during week 9. The masteron doesn't aromatize and the deca is at such low dosages there wouldn't be any gyno problems.

6. I'm not sure what you're planning with the hcg and clomid but if used properly, that combo's the best for recovery.

7. The cycle overall is a pyramid. 1st 2 weeks at 450mg's/week. Next 4 weeks at 900mg's/week. Next 2 weeks at 300mg's/week. A classic pyramid from the 1970's and 1980's. The original theory behind the pyramid cycle has long since been proven to be incorrect. That's why they haven't been used by anyone with any knowledge for about 10-12 years.

If you're genetically gifted, despite all the problems with this cycle, you'll probably still grow just fine. Look at all the guys from the '70's and 80's who had phenomenal physiques and used cycles that would make everyone here roll on the floor with laughter. However, no matter how gifted you may be, it's never wise to use less than optimum means to build your physique. What was optimum 30 years ago is much less than optimum today.

Realistically, this cycle looks like it was put together by someone from the 1970's. And sure enough you mention your friend who has been competing for 20 years put it together. Unfortunately, he hasn't kept up with the times.

There's so much that's already been written about cycles here. Do a little reading and you'll figure out something much better for yourself.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[Bob Smith]

Good post, Max Rep.

Cathex, in doing your research on AAS, be absolutely sure to read the stickies in this section (the top few posts). They will get you off to a great start. I wont speak for anyone else, but I know many agree with me, simple cycles are all thats needed for about 99% of the AAS-using population.

 

[cathex]

Thanks bro

I'd just like to say thanks for that information it was very useful. I most certainly will not be doing this cycle now.

I don't want to be a pain in the ass MaxRep but could you suggest how I could combine the stuff I have in an effective cycle as I have spent the money on it now. I have listed what I have below. It dosn't have to include everything listed but bear in mind I would like to put on as much quality size as possible over an 8 wk cycle.

Here's what I have:

8 amps of sus 250mg Organon (can get more if required)
1 10ml bottle of Boldabol 200mg/ml British Dragon
1 10ml bottle of Mastabol 50mg/ml British Dragon
1600mg deca (can get more)
30 Nolvadex tabs 20mg/tab
40 Proviron tabs 25mg/tab

Also, what would I need to do for pct.

Thanx again bro.

 

[Bob Smith]

Get 10 more sust and another 1600mg deca.

Your cycle would look like this:
Weeks 1-2
Sust 750mg
Deca 400mg

Weeks 3-8
Sust 500mg
Deca 400mg