Consensus on best ratio of test:tren?

[badrouter]

I'm trying to gauge what the consensus is on balancing test and tren. Looking to maximize sex drive and minimize side effects. Is it assumed low test high tren is the way to go? If so, what is an ideal ratio? I ask about the ratio because I'm undecided on going with enanthate or acetate for one or both. Thanks

 

[Undertow333]

I'm highly intereste in this myself. I have always ran test higher than tren but there seems to be alot of support for the opposite. Hopefully some vets will weigh in.opcorn:

 

[cvictorg]

I'm trying to gauge what the consensus is on balancing test and tren. Looking to maximize sex drive and minimize side effects. Is it assumed low test high tren is the way to go? If so, what is an ideal ratio? I ask about the ratio because I'm undecided on going with enanthate or acetate for one or both. Thanks

I was under the assumption that it should be low tren E

 

[calvare2]

Tren used in a higher dose compared to test causes lower side effects. I would recommend a trt dose of test (200mgs) and Tren at a higher dose if you are prone to side effects from test. My understanding is that Tren has a higher affinity for androgen receptors so test is left longer in the body which leads to higher side effects.

 

[badrouter]

I threw some tren in on my last test cycle. Initially, test was a lot higher, like 500mg test-200 mg tren. Seemed like I was crazy then. As test started running low it ended up being more like 300mg test and 400mg tren. All enanthate by the way. Sides seemed a littles less but it's hard to tell as it was a short period.

 

[beezil]

keep the tren low.... and the sides are less.

keep up with the cardio, and most of all monitor your BP.

i have noticed the higher the tren doses... the higher your BP will go... and the harder it will be to perform cardio. which could potentially magnify the BP issue.

 

[GigaloRob]

Sides for me are more tolerable if my tren dose is higher than test. I used to run the opposite but..mow i always run tren higher. To each their own. Have to find what works better for you.

 

[GigaloRob]

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[badrouter]

Totally split responses so far. Basic logic without experience or real analysis says the lower the tren, the lower the tren sides are. But, others have made compelling arguments for lower test/higher tren. Maybe I should have made this a poll.

 

[GigaloRob]

It is really only something the individual is going to have to discover on their own. Nobody here is going to be able to tell you how you are going to specifically react. Little bit of experience and you will find what is best for you.

 

[MANWHORE]

I don't usually use Test much
Especially with Tren, but when I
Did it was around 800 Tren E to maybe 300 Test ...

I will be using 400 Mast 400 Tren
And maybe run 250 Test EW ... All Enanthates ...

If God wanted us to have Test in
Our bodies, he would have made ....

 

[conquistador]

test: tren?

1:1!

8 weeks of

100mg test e/ weekly
20mg oxandrolone/ daily (140mg/weekly)

in clinical study nearly matches 20 weeks of 600mg of test e weekly

Meaning that moderate supra physiological testosterone could serve as a supplement base for a good dose of a primarily anabolic, non-estrogenic compound...but since tren, which i do have and i haven't pinned yet, is anecdotically as notorious as testosterone in inducing side effects, ratio should be 1:1 'cause tren binds 3 times more to AR anyways...so hypothetically speaking test e 100mg/ weekly + 100mg weekly tren hex/enanthate will outdo 400mg test e weekly, the way I see it...again, hypothetically speaking

 

[Mimmik]

I have a long term relationship with tren and test cycles. From my own personal experience, ideal Test to Tren ratio is 2:1. I've had sexual issues when taking more tren than test. After the first few weeks on tren, I have issues keeping erections and it gets harder and harder to get off. I usually get some form of insomnia no matter how much tren I take, night sweats too.

I personally ran 1200mg of test E recently with 600 tren enanthate. The ratio was perfect...almost 2:1. Newer guys to tren should use 400-500 test with 200-250 tren a week. This will yield great results and strength will go through the roof. See how your body reacts to it. Everyone is different.

My vote Test:Tren is 2:1. I can deal with sides but I won't stand for it fucking with my sex life. I've avoided all sexual sides with this ratio.

 

[Stretch]

I don't usually use Test much
Especially with Tren, but when I
Did it was around 800 Tren E to maybe 300 Test ...

I will be using 400 Mast 400 Tren
And maybe run 250 Test EW ... All Enanthates ...

If God wanted us to have Test in
Our bodies, he would have made ....

Like the new avi...

Looking good bro...

It's gotta be killing you to be wearing all those heavy clothes this time of year...

If you're like me, you crank that heat up to 75 whenever a female comes over....just so you can throw on the wife-beater in December

 

[badrouter]

I have a long term relationship with tren and test cycles. From my own personal experience, ideal Test to Tren ratio is 2:1. I've had sexual issues when taking more tren than test. After the first few weeks on tren, I have issues keeping erections and it gets harder and harder to get off. I usually get some form of insomnia no matter how much tren I take, night sweats too.

I personally ran 1200mg of test E recently with 600 tren enanthate. The ratio was perfect...almost 2:1. Newer guys to tren should use 400-500 test with 200-250 tren a week. This will yield great results and strength will go through the roof. See how your body reacts to it. Everyone is different.

My vote Test:Tren is 2:1. I can deal with sides but I won't stand for it fucking with my sex life. I've avoided all sexual sides with this ratio.

Very good point. Sex life is crucial to me. That's why I'd never do Deca, for instance.

But, the answers are still all over the place here. Obviously, people can react differently to various compounds. But, there tends to be a consensus as to "best practice", then you have to allow for exceptions. With the test/.tren combo, it's harder to get a read on what is best for the majority.

 

[Mimmik]

Very good point. Sex life is crucial to me. That's why I'd never do Deca, for instance.

But, the answers are still all over the place here. Obviously, people can react differently to various compounds. But, there tends to be a consensus as to "best practice", then you have to allow for exceptions. With the test/.tren combo, it's harder to get a read on what is best for the majority.

If you've never tried Deca you might just have to give it a shot. It's one of my favorites. I'd also have to go with a 2:1 Test to Deca ratio if you want to avoid sides. I can say that a good test base is king from years of use. If you've run tren before, you can run Deca without sexual sides IMO.