contreversial article about protein

[DAVID]

DEATH BY PROTEIN

Every day, for the past four years, at least one person has
written to me and asked one of two questions:

"If I don't drink milk or eat meat, how will I satisfy my
protein needs?"

"If I don't drink milk, won't my bones break?"

American women have been consuming an average of two pounds
of milk per day for their entire lives, yet thirty million
American women have osteoporosis. Drinking milk does not
prevent bone loss. Bone loss is accelerated by ingesting too
much protein, and milk has been called "liquid meat." Heart
disease remains our number one killer.

Hospitals are filled with Americans who have eaten too much
dietary animal protein. It is nearly impossible to live in
America and not satisfy your protein needs.

AMERICANS EAT TOO MUCH PROTEIN

"The average man in the US eats 175% more protein than the
recommended daily allowance and the average woman eats 144%
more."

Surgeon General's Report on Nutrition and Health, 1988

OSTEOPOROSIS IS CAUSED BY EATING TOO MUCH PROTEIN

"Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things, one of the
most important being too much dietary protein."

Science 1986;233(4763)

"Countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis, such as
the United States, England, and Sweden, consume the most
milk. China and Japan, where people eat much less protein
and dairy food, have low rates of osteoporosis."

Nutrition Action Healthletter, June, 1993

"Dietary protein increases production of acid in the blood
which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the
skeleton."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1995; 61 (4)

"Even when eating 1,400 mg of calcium daily, one can lose up
to 4% of his or her bone mass each year while consuming a
high-protein diet."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 1979;32(4)

"Increasing one's protein intake by 100% may cause calcium
loss to double."

Journal of Nutrition, 1981; 111 (3)

"Animal food-groups were directly correlated to mortality
from coronary heart disease, defined as sudden coronary
death or fatal myocardial infarction and vegetable food-
groups (except potatoes) as well as fish and alcohol were
inversely correlated with CHD mortality. Univariate analysis
showed significant positive correlation coefficients for
butter (R = 0.887), meat (R = 0.645), pastries (R = 0.752),
and milk (R = 0.600) consumption, and significant negative
correlation coefficients for legumes (R = -0.822), oils (R =
-0.571), and alcohol (R = -0.609) consumption. Combined
vegetable foods (excluding alcohol) were inversely
correlated (R = -0.519), whereas combined animal foods
(excluding fish) were directly correlated (R = 0.798) with
coronary heart disease death rates."

European Journal of Epidemiology, 1999 Jul, 15:6, 507-15

 

[pcgizzmo]

DEATH BY PROTEIN

Every day, for the past four years, at least one person has
written to me and asked one of two questions:

"If I don't drink milk or eat meat, how will I satisfy my
protein needs?"

"If I don't drink milk, won't my bones break?"

American women have been consuming an average of two pounds
of milk per day for their entire lives, yet thirty million
American women have osteoporosis. Drinking milk does not
prevent bone loss. Bone loss is accelerated by ingesting too
much protein, and milk has been called "liquid meat." Heart
disease remains our number one killer.

Hospitals are filled with Americans who have eaten too much
dietary animal protein. It is nearly impossible to live in
America and not satisfy your protein needs.

AMERICANS EAT TOO MUCH PROTEIN

"The average man in the US eats 175% more protein than the
recommended daily allowance and the average woman eats 144%
more."

Surgeon General's Report on Nutrition and Health, 1988

OSTEOPOROSIS IS CAUSED BY EATING TOO MUCH PROTEIN

"Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things, one of the
most important being too much dietary protein."

Science 1986;233(4763)

"Countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis, such as
the United States, England, and Sweden, consume the most
milk. China and Japan, where people eat much less protein
and dairy food, have low rates of osteoporosis."

Nutrition Action Healthletter, June, 1993

"Dietary protein increases production of acid in the blood
which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the
skeleton."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1995; 61 (4)

"Even when eating 1,400 mg of calcium daily, one can lose up
to 4% of his or her bone mass each year while consuming a
high-protein diet."

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 1979;32(4)

"Increasing one's protein intake by 100% may cause calcium
loss to double."

Journal of Nutrition, 1981; 111 (3)

"Animal food-groups were directly correlated to mortality
from coronary heart disease, defined as sudden coronary
death or fatal myocardial infarction and vegetable food-
groups (except potatoes) as well as fish and alcohol were
inversely correlated with CHD mortality. Univariate analysis
showed significant positive correlation coefficients for
butter (R = 0.887), meat (R = 0.645), pastries (R = 0.752),
and milk (R = 0.600) consumption, and significant negative
correlation coefficients for legumes (R = -0.822), oils (R =
-0.571), and alcohol (R = -0.609) consumption. Combined
vegetable foods (excluding alcohol) were inversely
correlated (R = -0.519), whereas combined animal foods
(excluding fish) were directly correlated (R = 0.798) with
coronary heart disease death rates."

European Journal of Epidemiology, 1999 Jul, 15:6, 507-15

No offense David but, I could post tons of articles on how unhealthy it is to be a vegitarian. My father has told me this and I have heard it many times since and believe it. "Everything in moderation".

Paul

 

[Ramstein II]

That article is absurd. It may be true that the body doesn't use all protein eaten for repair and mass building. That is not the only point of eating an adequate protein, balanced diet. It is to balance your insulin to glucogen ratio and to replace insulin releasing carbs with protein. Fat is neutral. Studies are coming out monthly showing how replacing carb calories with protein results in many health benefits.

Grain is food for the poor masses. For about 3 million years humans (pre-homo sapiens included obviously) survived on a low glycemic diet of meat, fruit, marrow. Hunter gatherer people in pre-agricultural age were taller, stronger, leaner, lived longer, had healthier bones and teeth.

Agriculture resulted as a necessity to respond to the ending ice age and the extinction of the large land mamals humans lived. Civilization resulted, population exploded, and the toiling working class was created and they survived on grain (bread). Now you have the American diet full of grains and a country of fat people addicted to seratonin and carbs.

The article assumes the people actually eat according to the food guide pyramid. They don't. They eat cereal for breakfast, a sandwich and chips for lunch, a candy bar at 3:00 with a Coke, and a fatty, starchy dinner. On the weekends they drink a bunch of beer and binge on all the fatty and starchy foods they can find to self medicate their anxiety. The carbs make them feel better for a while.

 

[hackskii]

That article is absurd. It may be true that the body doesn't use all protein eaten for repair and mass building. That is not the only point of eating an adequate protein, balanced diet. It is to balance your insulin to glucogen ratio and to replace insulin releasing carbs with protein. Fat is neutral. Studies are coming out monthly showing how replacing carb calories with protein results in many health benefits.

Grain is food for the poor masses. For about 3 million years humans (pre-homo sapiens included obviously) survived on a low glycemic diet of meat, fruit, marrow. Hunter gatherer people in pre-agricultural age were taller, stronger, leaner, lived longer, had healthier bones and teeth.

Agriculture resulted as a necessity to respond to the ending ice age and the extinction of the large land mamals humans lived. Civilization resulted, population exploded, and the toiling working class was created and they survived on grain (bread). Now you have the American diet full of grains and a country of fat people addicted to seratonin and carbs.

The article assumes the people actually eat according to the food guide pyramid. They don't. They eat cereal for breakfast, a sandwich and chips for lunch, a candy bar at 3:00 with a Coke, and a fatty, starchy dinner. On the weekends they drink a bunch of beer and binge on all the fatty and starchy foods they can find to self medicate their anxiety. The carbs make them feel better for a while.

This is a very good post and I completely agree with this.

Not to mention diabetes is on the rise.
One need not look farther than the Eskimo to see this truth.

 

[DAVID]

This is a very good post and I completely agree with this.

Not to mention diabetes is on the rise.
One need not look farther than the Eskimo to see this truth.

I agree for this article too - but I just say now that I'm septic about protein intake, because I keep intact my muscle mass with 60 gr/ day a protein or 80 gr the day of training. My body weight is (90 kg) with a 10 % of bodyfat. I don't eat grain just some oats the morning, only vegetables, fruit, some raw meat and egg, not milk but more fat (nuts, olive oil, coconut oil, yellows eggs and some butter).
I don't see the difference when I take more protein only some water bloat...

 

[hackskii]

I agree for this article too - but I just say now that I'm septic about protein intake, because I keep intact my muscle mass with 60 gr/ day a protein or 80 gr the day of training. My body weight is (90 kg) with a 10 % of bodyfat. I don't eat grain just some oats the morning, only vegetables, fruit, some raw meat and egg, not milk but more fat (nuts, olive oil, coconut oil, yellows eggs and some butter).
I don't see the difference when I take more protein only some water bloat...

Well, you might not be adding up all the protein and trace proteins in your diet. Nuts have some protein in them althouth they are primarly fat.

Hell, you might have higher testosterone levels than most, this will aid in muscle gains and keeping muscle when dieting.

 

[DAVID]

Well, you might not be adding up all the protein and trace proteins in your diet. Nuts have some protein in them althouth they are primarly fat.

Hell, you might have higher testosterone levels than most, this will aid in muscle gains and keeping muscle when dieting.

Well, I think you have many knownledge about nutrition, more than me ; but you forget one thing. I think you don't read the e-book in my post board (wai), yes testosterone is very important but the most important is the QUALITY and UTILIZATION of protein. I eat only raw meat and yellows eggs. I have not so much protein but quality

HOW MUCH COOKEED MEAT AND PROTEIN POWDERS DO YOU EAT ? this food doesn't increase protein synthesis because :

At 110 degrees Fahrenheit (approximately 43 degrees Centigrade) two of the 8 essential amino acids, tryptophan and lysine, are destroyed.
When food is cooked above 117 degrees F for three minutes or longer, the following deleterious changes begin, and progressively cause increased nutritional damage as higher temperatures are applied over prolonged periods of time:
*proteins coagulate
*high temperatures denature protein molecular structure, leading to deficiency of some essential amino acids
*carbohydrates caramelize
*overly heated fats generate numerous carcinogens including acrolein, nitrosamines, hydrocarbons, and benzopyrene (one of the most potent cancer-causing agents known)
*natural fibers break down, cellulose is completely changed from its natural condition: it loses its ability to sweep the alimentary canal clean
* 30% to 50% of vitamins and minerals are destroyed
*100% of enzymes are damaged, the bodys enzyme potential is depleted which drains energy needed to maintain and repair tissue and organ systems, thereby shortening the life span.

 

[DAVID]

CELLULITE, WATER RETENTION COME FROM protein denaturation

Cooking denatures protein. According to Encyclopedia Britannica, denaturation is a modification of the molecular structure of protein by heat or by an acid, an alkali, or ultraviolet radiation that destroys or diminishes its original properties and biological activity.

Denaturation alters protein and makes it unusable or less usable. According to Britannica, protein molecules are readily altered by heat:. Unlike simple organic molecules, the physical and chemical properties of protein are markedly altered when the substance is just boiled in water. Further: All of the agents able to cause denaturat-ion are able to break the secondary bonds that hold the chains in place. Once these weak bonds are broken, the molecule falls into a disorganized tangle devoid of biological function.

Again, according to Britannica the most significant effect of protein denaturation is the loss of the its biological function. For example, enzymes lose their catalytic powers and hemoglobin loses its capacity to carry oxygen. The changes that accompany denaturation have been shown to result from destruction of the specific pattern in which the amino acid chains are folded in the native protein. In Britannica is the acknowledgement that "cooking destroys protein to make it practically useless"

Some Physiologists claim that cooking and digestion are virtually the same: that cooking is a form of predigestion where heat is used to hydrolyze nutrients that would otherwise be hydrolyzed at body temperature through digestion. This due to the enormous heat exposure during cooking, that denatures the protein molecule past a point of being bioactive, however, body heat is too low to effect the protein molecule so adversely.

When proteins are subjected to high heat during cooking, enzyme resistant linkages are formed between the amino acid chains. The body cannot separate these amino acids. What the body cannot use, it must eliminate. Cooked proteins become a source of toxicity: dead organic waste material acted upon and elaborated by bacterial flora.

When wholesome protein foods are eaten raw, the body makes maximum use of all amino acids without the accompanying toxins of cooked food.

According to the textbook Nutritional Value of Food Processing, 3rd Edition, (by Karmas, Harris, published by Van Nostrand Reinhold) which is written for food chemists in the industrial processed food industry: changes that occur during processing either result in nutrient loss or destruction. Heat processing has a detrimental effect on nutrients since thermal degradation of nutrients can and does occur. Reduction in nutrient content depends on the severity of the thermal processing.

Protein molecules under ideal eating and digestive conditions are broken down into amino acids by gastric enzymes. Every protein molecule in the body is synthesized from these amino acids. Protein you consume IS NOT used as protein: it is first recycled or broken down into its constituent amino acids AND THEN used to build protein molecules the body needs.

There are 23 different amino acids. These link together in different combinations in extremely long chains to create protein molecules, like individual rail cars form a train. The amino group gives each amino acid its specific identifying characteristic that differentiates it from the others. Excessive heat sloughs off or decapitates the amino group. Without this amino group, the amino acid is rendered useless and is toxic.