Critique please. Greasing type routine.

[john11]

I have heard this mentioned a few times, but what do you think of an adaptation of pavel's russian greasing the groove kind of program. I am trying to figure out if the following would work.

For back work, do one set of light easy chins every hour, amounting to about ten sets a day in total, then go to failure once a week using one set of chins and one set of rows, to hit the upper and lower back.

Also with the chins everyday do a set of light dips for the chest and light squats for the legs. Then perform a few chest exercises once a week to failure and a few legs exercises to failure, but do the failure routine for each bodypart on different days, so something like chest to failure on monday, legs to failure on wednesday and back to failure on friday.

What do you think

 

[LeoTC]

I think everytime you've asked for advice, we've asked you what your goals are.

Are you trying to build an athletic base, build strength, build muscle, or just do more chin ups?

I'm not trying to be an ass, but you're asking for advice without providing any context.

For someone that's training SM/PL/BB and wants to grow? I'd look at something like that and probably laugh.

A roll of the eyes and a good luck buddy.

So...what are you trying to accomplish?

Lacking context, I'd say you'd be no better or worse off than the guy that goes to the gym with a belt loosely slung around his waist and gloves to move 1,000lbs two inches on the leg press.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

With a job and even the most dismal of a social life, this one set of chins idea is just impractical.

No knock at you, i just think it sounds stupid. Then again, i'm the kinda guy that wants to start my lifting, give it my absolute maximum effort in a single session, then call it a day.

i couldn't imagine sitting there having a conversation with the wife and being like, "hold that thought, dear. i gotta do a quick set of chins, be right back." Just SMH with a LOL.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

If you're in jail with no access to weights and all the free time in the world, sure. You can even spice it up a little by playing cards for "x" number of chin ups, push ups, squats, dips, etc.

 

[Test_Subject]

That would work great if you don't have a job, social life, family or travel plans.

What is your goal?

 

[cfreetenor]

Guy asks about his chin program and y’all say he has no goals or outlook and then call him a loser LMAO

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Guy asks about his chin program and y’all say he has no goals or outlook and then call him a loser LMAO

That's one way to look at it. Hopefully he doesn't take it that way. It's just our way of pointing out the impracticality of the whole situation.

 

[Test_Subject]

Guy asks about his chin program and y’all say he has no goals or outlook and then call him a loser LMAO

Literally nobody said that.

We were pointing out how impractical the idea is. Two people asked what he is trying to accomplish.

I don't see how you get "loser" from that. I, personally, am curious what he's trying to accomplish.

 

[john11]

I'm trying to increase my numbers, not bothered about anything else.

Your replies as surprising as greasing groove type programs are all over the net, used with a lot of success, this is just my take on it.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I'm trying to increase my numbers, not bothered about anything else.

Your replies as surprising as greasing groove type programs are all over the net, used with a lot of success, this is just my take on it.

If you're strictly trying to increase strength stay away from failure and get more rest days rather trying to do stuff every day.

 

[LeoTC]

I'm trying to increase my numbers, not bothered about anything else.

Your replies as surprising as greasing groove type programs are all over the net, used with a lot of success, this is just my take on it.

What numbers? That's the question.

Your physical stats?

The number of pull-ups you can do?

Deadlift?

Instagram subscribers?

Again, that's not an answer as you're still being extremely vague.

 

[weighted chinup]

There are certain situations where greasing the groove or facilitating neuromuscular adaptations as fast as possible is the most efficient way to your goal.

If someone has a short period of time to obtain a certain level of physical readiness, gtg is indicated, especially if the individual is unfit/overweight or has other issues that need to be addressed simultaneously in that short period of time.

For the lifting man, just take a progressive approach to chin/pull development.

I believe this to be a better approach. I can untrain weighted chinups for months and in a 4-week mesocycle, I can go from doing 45lb chinups for 8 to 90+ lbs for 6-8 at the end of a mesocycle.

I believe they are great for beginner / early intermediate lifters, but I think the use for advanced lifters / bodybuilding oriented lifters is limited. I've even read top level PL'ers attest to the fact that weighted, bodyweight for reps, or even assist are all useful for the same purpose really.

 

[john11]

Hi. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

I would really appreciate your take on the dual factor bodybuilding routine you put up,
Would it be possible to mix in a set of rest pause style training with this routine. Change the last set of each exercise to rest pause.

This is what i do for rest pause: If i am trying to complete 10 reps, I perform one rep then drop the weight for 20 seconds, pick the weight back up again and perform another rep, drop the weight again and take another twenty second rest. Keep repeating until all ten reps have been completed, one rep at a time with a 20 second break inbetween.

 

[weighted chinup]

Hi. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

I would really appreciate your take on the dual factor bodybuilding routine you put up,
Would it be possible to mix in a set of rest pause style training with this routine. Change the last set of each exercise to rest pause.

This is what i do for rest pause: If i am trying to complete 10 reps, I perform one rep then drop the weight for 20 seconds, pick the weight back up again and perform another rep, drop the weight again and take another twenty second rest. Keep repeating until all ten reps have been completed, one rep at a time with a 20 second break inbetween.

I am intimately familiar with restpause as a high-intensity technique. I answered your question in the DFT thread.