Crohns and steriods

[BadKitty]

Hey new to Meso...29yr old Female, I have done alot of searching on here to see if I can find any Info about steriods and Crohns and haven't really found much info....just wondering if anyone on this has Crohns and if they take steriods and if it effects them in anyway!?

 

[Savagesteve]

Hey new to Meso...29yr old Female, I have done alot of searching on here to see if I can find any Info about steriods and Crohns and haven't really found much info....just wondering if anyone on this has Crohns and if they take steriods and if it effects them in anyway!?

I personally don't have crohns but a buddy of mine does. He said his doctor didn't recommend aas but I don't know any doctor that would. He takes several shots a week in the stomach and just got done running some sarms with no issues but that's the only knowledge I have about it. I'm also interested as he's been curious about the use of aas and having crohns. Maybe @Dr JIM could help out.

 

[Masters Power]

I agree @Dr JIM is your best bet. You may or may not like his answers as he doesn't pull any punches but if he has any information for you it will be solid and I would heed whatever advice he may give.

 

[BadKitty]

Thanks so much. I was on Humaria as well. It's an injection I put into my stomach....I found out it was slowly shutting my organs down so I quickly got off and found a nutritionist and got on all natural meds. Within 2 weeks I was in remission and I feel amazing. I want to wait about 2 months I'd say before I jump in to anything but I'm thinking about running Anavar and see how that goes.

 

[Eman]

I don't think you should be considering running gear right now. I read your intro and I strongly suggest you work on building your base back up.

When you do run your cycle though, I am not so sure that oral steroids are your best bet due to your condition... I'd be concerned it could aggravate it. Frankly, I'd be concerned injectables could aggravate it as well, but I'd think orals would be more likely to do it. @Dr JIM can confirm if I'm on the right track with that notion.

 

[BloodVoT]

@Eman She is in much better health currently from where she started. I was thinking it could benefit her, but was not sure if it was such a good idea currently. I know diet helps the weight loss and such, she just wants to speed up the process. Is there anything else that you would suggest her to take for the time being to shed off some weight and cut a bit? Her diet is on point for sure. Btw, it is my Fiance, if you were wondering how I knew soo much about her haha.

 

[Eman]

@Eman She is in much better health currently from where she started. I was thinking it could benefit her, but was not sure if it was such a good idea currently. I know diet helps the weight loss and such, she just wants to speed up the process. Is there anything else that you would suggest her to take for the time being to shed off some weight and cut a bit? Her diet is on point for sure. Btw, it is my Fiance, if you were wondering how I knew soo much about her haha.

If her diet is on point and her main goal is fat loss, then I don't think anavar is really the way to go.

I don't think she really needs any PED's at all right now... If she does go with the anavar, go low dose and stop at the first sign of an issue.

 

[BloodVoT]

If her diet is on point and her main goal is fat loss, then I don't think anavar is really the way to go.

I don't think she really needs any PED's at all right now... If she does go with the anavar, go low dose and stop at the first sign of an issue.

Your the man brother. I always appreciate your feedback. I'm very happy I joined this forum to meet people like you. Thanks.

 

[Professor Karman]

Thanks so much. I was on Humaria as well. It's an injection I put into my stomach....I found out it was slowly shutting my organs down so I quickly got off and found a nutritionist and got on all natural meds. Within 2 weeks I was in remission and I feel amazing. I want to wait about 2 months I'd say before I jump in to anything but I'm thinking about running Anavar and see how that goes.

Stay away from orals..I have ulcerative colitis and within 3 weeks of starting orals (dbol,tbol, you name it) I flare.

 

[BloodVoT]

Stay away from orals..I have ulcerative colitis and within 3 weeks of starting orals (dbol,tbol, you name it) I flare.

So, with that being said, what do you suggest her to take un-natural to cut?

 

[Professor Karman]

So, with that being said, what do you suggest her to take un-natural to cut?

I am not an expert on women and steroids so I would defer to those with experience regarding injectables and women. Also, I should say that I am not on any medication for my UC. I try and control it with diet and supps (curcumin,etc). If she is taking meds for her Chrohns then she may be ok with orals but I would just be very careful.

 

[BloodVoT]

I am not an expert on women and steroids so I would defer to those with experience regarding injectables and women. Also, I should say that I am not on any medication for my UC. I try and control it with diet and supps (curcumin,etc). If she is taking meds for her Chrohns then she may be ok with orals but I would just be very careful.

We are going to a all natural doctor, meds only made her worse. Diet is great. Those damn meds they were giving her almost killed her, and i feel like that was their motive.

 

[Professor Karman]

We are going to a all natural doctor, meds only made her worse. Diet is great. Those damn meds they were giving her almost killed her, and i feel like that was their motive.

Sorry to hear that. My brother has Crohns and he has been getting monthly infusions of something (not sure what) for almost 15 years and he is doing well. Everybody is different I guess.

 

[biggerben69]

If I remember correctly there are some crohns patients that have been prescribed GH. I don't know if there is a certain form of the disease that warrants growth hormone be scripted?
I imagine its a situation similar to hiv in the sense that a diagnosis of hiv doesn't come with a script of Serostim. When the hiv patient has his lean muscle mass drop to a certain % because of the Wasting Syndrome associated with the disease he will catch 18iu's/ed.
Is the OP or her spouse aware of GH being a possible treatment for some?

 

[BloodVoT]

Sorry to hear that. My brother has Crohns and he has been getting monthly infusions of something (not sure what) for almost 15 years and he is doing well. Everybody is different I guess.

Yes, especially when it comes to Crohns. Everyone seems to react differently to each medicine and they try to say one treats everyone.... @BadKitty was on Humaria and she had a allergic reaction and ended up in the hospital, doc told her to take a benedryl and sleep it off... then when she said it wasnt working, he said well i guess we need to up your dosage...wtf!

 

[BloodVoT]

If I remember correctly there are some crohns patients that have been prescribed GH. I don't know if there is a certain form of the disease that warrants growth hormone be scripted?
I imagine its a situation similar to hiv in the sense that a diagnosis of hiv doesn't come with a script of Serostim. When the hiv patient has his lean muscle mass drop to a certain % because of the Wasting Syndrome associated with the disease he will catch 18iu's/ed.
Is the OP or her spouse aware of GH being a possible treatment for some?

I will have to read into this, interesting.

 

[Professor Karman]

If I remember correctly there are some crohns patients that have been prescribed GH. I don't know if there is a certain form of the disease that warrants growth hormone be scripted?
I imagine its a situation similar to hiv in the sense that a diagnosis of hiv doesn't come with a script of Serostim. When the hiv patient has his lean muscle mass drop to a certain % because of the Wasting Syndrome associated with the disease he will catch 18iu's/ed.
Is the OP or her spouse aware of GH being a possible treatment for some?

If in remission there won't be any wasting. It is only when it flares and you are shitting your brains out will you be unable to keep any weight on. Of course there may be other benefits to increased GH levels. Most patients are diagnosed in there late teens/early twenties when I would assume GH levels start to drop so there may be something to that.

 

[Devil3]

@GearGodess may have helped some ladies with this condition in the past?

 

[BadKitty]

If in remission there won't be any wasting. It is only when it flares and you are shitting your brains out will you be unable to keep any weight on. Of course there may be other benefits to increased GH levels. Most patients are diagnosed in there late teens/early twenties when I would assume GH levels start to drop so there may be something to that.

My Crohns is shitting straight blood unfortunately..but I'm 4 weeks in remission right now. I stopped all medications and now only do all natural stuff. Doest, supplements and such. I feel amazing. And I NEVER lost weight...only gained from all the meds I was on...that's why I want to run something to drop weight and build muscle and strength quickly.

 

[GearGodess]

Thanks for the tag @Devil3
I haven't dealt with anyone with Crohn's recently but going back a few years, which sounds similar to the situation here, my good friend has been dealing with it for years and the only thing that helped was a very carefully planned out diet. And then later when she was starting to loose too much weight too quickly, seemed like she was starting to look the skinny fat with very little muscle, we ended up trying a small dose of gh and deca along with a super cleaned up diet and training set up after several months once she got into routine, she noticed she was feeling better and stronger. Another thing that we were loading her up is with BCAA's in her water as well as other vitamins and minerals. Another important part were good bacteria and probiotics. This was us self medicating so I don't know if it was right but it worked for her. So this could be something to think about.

My recommendation based on what @BadKitty has listed and her goals, I would focus on her nutrition first. Crohns is obviously terrible and linked with causing problems and malnutrition where your body isn't able to absorb anything properly (or at least my understanding of it, if I remember correctly)

If you are off meds and are doing a naturopathic approach with your life and diet, you should start cleaning your system and getting the maximum nutrition. Verify your food choices to ensure they aren't causing more problems. Even trying a different style of diet. You also need to stay hydrated.

As for incorporating AAS, var to be more specific, I don't think you're ready for it yet. Besides, and I said this a million times, these are NOT FAT/WEIGHT LOSS tools. They are meant to gain and retain muscle which means if you aren't at your desired weight, you will only get thicker. I don't think this is the answer here. Not yet at least.