Cruise for life?

[VIncentt3q]

I am at a point where I am between never doing Test again or being on for life.
Who of you has been on for a long long time, I mean 5-10 years or more? I have also been on for 3 years but wanted to see how I am feeling natural again, and tbh after 8 months and normal levels again I still feel shitty.

But I kinda dont wanna pin for the rest of my life, as it is just a lot to keep track off. Does anyone wanna give me some advice if i wanna stay on test forever?

 

[readalot]

But I kinda dont wanna pin for the rest of my life, as it is just a lot to keep track off.

Then you gotta do what works for you. Nothing is free.

TRT / cruise / blast

Words on a page.

 

[malfeasance]

At 20 years old there is no way I would make the decision to be on "for life."

 

[phenominal34]

I am at a point where I am between never doing Test again or being on for life.
Who of you has been on for a long long time, I mean 5-10 years or more? I have also been on for 3 years but wanted to see how I am feeling natural again, and tbh after 8 months and normal levels again I still feel shitty.

But I kinda dont wanna pin for the rest of my life, as it is just a lot to keep track off. Does anyone wanna give me some advice if i wanna stay on test forever?

lol you’re 20 years old ?

 

[AlexDavis43]

I have also been on for 3 years but wanted to see how I am feeling natural again, and tbh after 8 months and normal levels again I still feel shitty.

Something else is wrong

I don't know, see an endocrinologist, get some more comprehensive testing, but if you still feel shitty after 8 months of TRT, testosterone isn't what's making you feel shitty

 

[RockyP]

Just so I'm understanding, did you say you feel shitty after 8 months OFF of TRT or 8 months back on TRT? If you feel shitty ON the TRT with optimize levels, then yes, the test is not the issue. Something else is going on.

It's a personal choice. If pinning is the issue, there are decent transdermal creams that will get your levels quite high (mine got up to 2200 on what I was prescribed). I vividly recall how awful my life was with my test levels being in the shitter. The only thing that would have me stop would be metastatic prostate cancer (you can stay on test with localized low Gleason score Prostate CA). If your levels were low and you felt shitty before starting test, I can assure you that is where you will find yourself if / when you decide to remain off the test.

 

[VIncentt3q]

Something else is wrong

I don't know, see an endocrinologist, get some more comprehensive testing, but if you still feel shitty after 8 months of TRT, testosterone isn't what's making you feel shitty

I dont feel really shitty, just worse than on cycle. I had sleeping issues, no sex drive and also a really shitty immune system before my cycle.
Then i had my bloodwork done at 17 only remember the whole test: 4,3ng/dl, free test was below reference. But my doc told me it is not low enough and didn't even try any Therapy....
So i started test, made a lot of dumb mistake but I felt SOOOO much better, the sleep alone was crazy and in the last 3 years in total I have been less sick than the half year before the cycle.
So i dont feel shit shit at the moment, I just feel like before and just tired again all th time, my whole trst is at 6ng/dl but free is still the same as it was before

 

[VIncentt3q]

At 20 years old there is no way I would make the decision to be on "for life."

I have hat below reference free T levels at 17, my doc told me I am still developing it is normal to be so low, now after the cycle it is just a little bit higher and my doc still tells me, you are 20 it is normal that it is low.
And it is fucking not, I priorities sleep before anything, workout 4 times a week, overall life a healthy lifestyle, no drugs, alcohol, tabaco etc.. I also eat healthy, take a lot of health supps and he even told me the rest of my bloodwork was exceptionally good, like literally everything also Omega 3 etc. (except for B12 was a little high but I just cut back the supp).
So the docs in my surroundings arent a help at all... Thats why I am thinking of just staying on (the biggest downside is, I have to shave twice a week, when I dont take test my hair takes like 2 weeks to even be shaveable)

 

[Markimus Rex]

Long shot, but low vit b can make you feel off and it's more common than people think, take all the vit b's individually, b complex is no good, with your trt, keep e2 in range and see how you feel

 

[malfeasance]

I have hat below reference free T levels at 17, my doc told me I am still developing it is normal to be so low, now after the cycle it is just a little bit higher and my doc still tells me, you are 20 it is normal that it is low.
And it is fucking not, I priorities sleep before anything, workout 4 times a week, overall life a healthy lifestyle, no drugs, alcohol, tabaco etc.. I also eat healthy, take a lot of health supps and he even told me the rest of my bloodwork was exceptionally good, like literally everything also Omega 3 etc. (except for B12 was a little high but I just cut back the supp).
So the docs in my surroundings arent a help at all... Thats why I am thinking of just staying on (the biggest downside is, I have to shave twice a week, when I dont take test my hair takes like 2 weeks to even be shaveable)

Well, I would want to know why, not just that some number is low.

What were your testosterone (total and free), FSH, and LH prior to injecting testosterone at, gasp, 17? Any other relevant numbers you wish to share, please do.

 

[VIncentt3q]

If anyone is wondering what my plan is for now, continue using Ipa 300mcg 5 times a week before sleep, I will also add CJC and started with clomid 12,5mg/ed. Gonna check my levels in a few weeks but with only clomid nothing should be out of references and I will hopefully still feel better.

Just to reply to the other "questions" raised, my B12 was way over the limits and I eat a lot of meat, dairy etc. so B supps are propaply not needed.
As I said I dont have the Testresults from 17 anymore, the only thing I could find was the whole test because I had sent it to a friend on snap lol, the rest is gone, LH and FSH apparently was not low enough to alert my doc but I dont know how effective this dude really is....

 

[lukiss96]

I don't want to work, but I like to have money. So that's why I have to work. Just like most people.

That's the way I see about being enhanced on Testosterone. I have to inject as that is the cheapest, simplest and most sustainable way of administering T.

I just look at it as another chore I have to do, there are ways to make it less invasive/painful, like using insulin syringes or choosing an ester that you can inject every 7-10 days. It's not like there are no options to design protocol suitable for yourself.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

sub 25 most likely you still think like a child and you are trying make life altering decisions.

Just saying.

I remember when I was a kid

 

[human growth hormone]

At 20 years old there is no way I would make the decision to be on "for life."

u would be surprised, i know of people who started trt/ roiding at 13-14

 

[BigDadd7]

I'm almost 60. I've been using since my early 40s. I absolutely hate pinning. It's just another chore like shaving my balls. Except every so often I get a bad pin and I have pip for half a week. Or I get some damn lump. Am I dying this time? Is it an infection? Should I go to the doctor? Should I tough it out for this vacation and make people think I died? I have to keep ordering this crap. Or, I can stock up and maybe risk jail time for intent to distribute. Have to hide it somewhat, can't have my girl seeing a huge stash of drugs. I want to go out of town. Is it worth the risk to travel with this shit? Gotta check my e2, again. There's another bitcoin wallet closed. It's an endless series of bullshit. I would have to be a complete moron who had to learn everything the hard way to even think about starting this in my 20s.

 

[sionnach]

u would be surprised, i know of people who started trt/ roiding at 13-14

This is way more common than the general public realizes, mostly because of high schools hyperfocused on the size of their athletics program and delusional parents chasing college scholarships who think their kid's getting into the NFL/MLB/NBA.

 

[RockyP]

This is way more common than the general public realizes, mostly because of high schools hyperfocused on the size of their athletics program and delusional parents chasing college scholarships who think their kid's getting into the NFL/MLB/NBA.

I played ball with a kid who started using in HS. He died in his late 20's.

 

[Ateam2023]

u would be surprised, i know of people who started trt/ roiding at 13-14

im in my early 50's, all my High School friends that were doing juice in those days are either suffering some sort of ailment (cancer,diebetes, fertility problems) Or DEAD from heart problems, theres only one that i know that survived and still is taking trt , says he wished he NEVER would have started at such a young age, bottom line is , Don't take your health for granted fr some measley gains early in life, Put in the hard work and dedication it takes to remain healthy, strong and hopefully invincible until you reach the "golden years" Good luck on your journey,,

 

[readalot]

my early 40s

This should almost be the rule for those that aren't competing and bringing in the fat stacks of cash with their huge, shredded and striated bodies. For just the hobbyist? Yeah post 40.

 

[sionnach]

Post 40 with symptoms*