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I'll be taking Provi which should take care of any unwanted estrogen for the first 10 weeks. I'm debating between Aromasin or Arimidex for week 10-16.

So my buddy wants to do this cyclefv with me but loves Tren minus the sides. He wanted me to ask if there's any way to add it into this cycle I've put forth. Thoughts?
 
Beachbum69 said:
I'll be taking Provi which should take care of any unwanted estrogen for the first 10 weeks. I'm debating between Aromasin or Arimidex for week 10-16.

So my buddy wants to do this cyclefv with me but loves Tren minus the sides. He wanted me to ask if there's any way to add it into this cycle I've put forth. Thoughts?
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I mean if he did just test and tren maybe proviron then yeah but unless he’s an experienced user I highly do not recommend tren.
I personally like doing test prop tren ace and masteron or proviron
 
BigDaddyV said:
I mean if he did just test and tren maybe proviron then yeah but unless he’s an experienced user I highly do not recommend tren.
I personally like doing test prop tren ace and masteron or proviron
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OH man. Lol that's exactly what I did for my first cycle ever. I did two types of test, two types of tren and a Masterson. I was 23 and clueless but me and my boys had our gym rat friend who thought he knew it all. My buddy who's asking did tren before and definitely was on a short temper at times. I was cruising and felt great. I went from like 23% body fat to 15% in 3 months. Was amazing.

If we decided to add tren into this mix, what would we reduce in dosages or eliminate? Or just do a test/tren/Mast cycle? Since it's been years since we have done it keep in mind lower dosing. Love hearing new ideas. Thank you!
 
Beachbum69 said:
OH man. Lol that's exactly what I did for my first cycle ever. I did two types of test, two types of tren and a Masterson. I was 23 and clueless but me and my boys had our gym rat friend who thought he knew it all. My buddy who's asking did tren before and definitely was on a short temper at times. I was cruising and felt great. I went from like 23% body fat to 15% in 3 months. Was amazing.

If we decided to add tren into this mix, what would we reduce in dosages or eliminate? Or just do a test/tren/Mast cycle? Since it's been years since we have done it keep in mind lower dosing. Love hearing new ideas. Thank you!
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Me personally would do 75-100mg test prop ED 25-50mg tren ace ED and 500mg mast every week.
Keep in mind that tren is not good for you, sure all steroids come with risk but tren is especially bad and if you can accomplish your goals without it then by all means stay away. Some people like tren though. My brother loves it and if you guys do want to go that route then just start low and try to get the most you can out of as little a dose as possible. If you can get gains without sides that would be ideal, for me that’s usually around 35mg or less a day.
I am not a fan of tren enanthate I prefer ace because if sides get bad I can cut it off and I’ll recover quickly.
tren hex however I am a fan of. As long as you stay low in dosage. I honestly felt no toxic sides from hex and my strength was outrageous. Sadly it’s hard to acquire. I ran 152mg a week and loved it.
 
Would running a tren hex at 100mg or tren ace at 35mg compliment the cycle I posted? Or would it just be too many steroids.
 
I'll come back here and add some pictures through our cycle over the next 4 months. Also, I want to get blood tested. When should I do that and what do I test for? What reasons do I give my doctor? Do I be forward with him on anything? He's cool.
 
Beachbum69 said:
I'll come back here and add some pictures through our cycle over the next 4 months. Also, I want to get blood tested. When should I do that and what do I test for? What reasons do I give my doctor? Do I be forward with him on anything? He's cool.
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Hormone level test, you can also get a lipid panel if you desire.
you don’t have to tell your doctor why. Just request it, I’d avoid telling him even if he’s cool. My doctor makes jokes about me using steroids but I never admit to it. Chances are he will eventually know no reason to incriminate yourself
 
Spokeonawheel said:
In browsing through the thread I see a lot of suggestions about which drugs to take to help w dropping the BF. And, yeah, you can totally go down that road if you like.

But, fuck, just eat smart, do cardio, and run your gear.

I remember listening to an interview with John Meadows and he was talking about clen. And he said yeah you can take that or you could do an extra 20 minutes of cardio, or you could eat 200 calories less.
(Note: we aren't talking about contest prep)

Anyways, that shit always stuck with me.

Good luck OP.
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Yeah John Meadows knows his shit.
 
IF a test tren mast run a nice long
50 prop eod
100 trena eod gradually increasing to 150 or whatever y may handle
75 mastp eod

And when y cut to the bone
150-200 increasing t whatever y feel comfortable tprop eod
reduce the trena 50-75 max eod
75-150 mastp eod

cut recomp bulk simple no sides at all this way
dbol or drol on second phase if you wanna spice things up
 
AlwaysHungry said:
IF a test tren mast run a nice long
50 prop eod
100 trena eod gradually increasing to 150 or whatever y may handle
75 mastp eod

And when y cut to the bone
150-200 increasing t whatever y feel comfortable tprop eod
reduce the trena 50-75 max eod
75-150 mastp eod

cut recomp bulk simple no sides at all this way
dbol or drol on second phase if you wanna spice things up
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This reminded me of a gh15 post lol
 
Spokeonawheel said:
In browsing through the thread I see a lot of suggestions about which drugs to take to help w dropping the BF. And, yeah, you can totally go down that road if you like.

But, fuck, just eat smart, do cardio, and run your gear.

I remember listening to an interview with John Meadows and he was talking about clen. And he said yeah you can take that or you could do an extra 20 minutes of cardio, or you could eat 200 calories less.
(Note: we aren't talking about contest prep)

Anyways, that shit always stuck with me.

Good luck OP.
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Yep. Good eating, lots of cardio and maybe an ephedrine and caffeine stack will do more for you than any steroid-based cutting cycle ever will as far as actually cutting fat.

The mistake people make is that they think you take steroids to help cut. You take the steroids to preserve muscle mass during the cut. You still have to put in the work to actually do the cut. Unless you're doing a HEAVY cut you're not going to lose an appreciable amount of muscle by doing it without steroids -- especially at the level of leanness and muscle mass of most gym-goers.

People take clen, DNP, massive cutting stacks of every DHT steroid under the sun and for what? Unless you're a top level competitor who needs to get to 6%, you don't need all that shit. You need to get your ass on the stair machine, put in the work and lose the donuts.
 
AlwaysHungry said:
IF a test tren mast run a nice long
50 prop eod
100 trena eod gradually increasing to 150 or whatever y may handle
75 mastp eod

And when y cut to the bone
150-200 increasing t whatever y feel comfortable tprop eod
reduce the trena 50-75 max eod
75-150 mastp eod

cut recomp bulk simple no sides at all this way
dbol or drol on second phase if you wanna spice things up
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Question for you, I thought tren ace was supposed to be injected daily. Is eod efficient enough?
 
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