Cycle on. Psyc. Meds

[Papazorus]

Hi there,

Any one did cycles while on psyc meds?
Like while on anti depressants or anti psycotics?

Any interactions?

 

[UncleBuns]

Why do you take them? Generally speaking AAS can be disastrous for people with mental health issues. Depends on what your issue is but it's a good way have a psychotic episode, mania, rage, extreme anxiety, etc if you're prone to it.

 

[Big_paul]

Peds will raise your level of aggression. Other than that I wouldn't be concerned.

 

[Avarice911]

Id probably stay away from nandrolones (deca, npp, tren, ment) as they seem to have more psych effects from anecdote. Test is best for sure. I’d prob also be comfortable with sprinkling in primo or masteron and sometimes an oral like anavar or turinabol

 

[y777]

Id probably stay away from nandrolones (deca, npp, tren, ment) as they seem to have more psych effects from anecdote. Test is best for sure. I’d prob also be comfortable with sprinkling in primo or masteron and sometimes an oral like anavar or turinabol

I’ll second this comment on 19nors. NPP screwed me in less than a week on a baby dose.

DHT compounds, however , are the chefs kiss for me. I am on serotonin and dopamine drugs (amph, for the latter).

On cycle I’ve cut down my amphetamine doses significantly. Even since beginning TRT. once I’m done w my primo cycle I plan on making it a permanent addition to my TRT. I reduced my stimulant doses by 65% thanks to dht compounds just loving those dopamine receptors.

 

[Papazorus]

Why do you take them? Generally speaking AAS can be disastrous for people with mental health issues. Depends on what your issue is but it's a good way have a psychotic episode, mania, rage, extreme anxiety, etc if you're prone to it.

I m on it for depression mainly and autism symptoms.

I’ll second this comment on 19nors. NPP screwed me in less than a week on a baby dose.

DHT compounds, however , are the chefs kiss for me. I am on serotonin and dopamine drugs (amph, for the latter).

On cycle I’ve cut down my amphetamine doses significantly. Even since beginning TRT. once I’m done w my primo cycle I plan on making it a permanent addition to my TRT. I reduced my stimulant doses by 65% thanks to dht compounds just loving those dopamine receptors.

My meds are bit different. Serotonin augmentation through antidepressant and dopamine reduction by antipsychotic.

Got other meds like melatonin but I don't see possible interactions.

I use to have dht compounds before.
Waiting on nhs trt

 

[Resore]

I would say testosterone in a reasonable dose doesnt counteract with any of those medics.
Trt can help with psychological issues as well. Especially with depression. But Its dose dependent. Start low and raise the dose slowly. And of course it also depends on the psychological issues.

 

[UncleBuns]

I m on it for depression mainly and autism symptoms.

My meds are bit different. Serotonin augmentation through antidepressant and dopamine reduction by antipsychotic.

Got other meds like melatonin but I don't see possible interactions.

I use to have dht compounds before.
Waiting on nhs trt

Might want to read up on AAS increasing dopamine and/or upregulating dopamine receptors. I'm not well versed on the topic but I've read that AAS ramps up the dopamine system. If you are taking meds to decrease dopamine that might be a bad combination.

As far as depression I wouldn't worry unless you have manic episodes. Just stick to reasonable dose AAS that has low mental side effects like test, primo, Oxandralone, EQ, etc. Avoid harsh orals and 19 nors. If you plan to PCT though you might have a hell of a time as depression is a common side effect during PCT and if you already have bad depression the crash might be pretty bad.

 

[y777]

Might want to read up on AAS increasing dopamine and/or upregulating dopamine receptors. I'm not well versed on the topic but I've read that AAS ramps up the dopamine system. If you are taking meds to decrease dopamine that might be a bad combination.

As far as depression I wouldn't worry unless you have manic episodes. Just stick to reasonable dose AAS that has low mental side effects like test, primo, Oxandralone, EQ, etc. Avoid harsh orals and 19 nors. If you plan to PCT though you might have a hell of a time as depression is a common side effect during PCT and if you already have bad depression the crash might be pretty bad.

I’m quite sensitive to changes In Dopamine (have ADHD ). Can confirm that winstrol and primo both flood my system w dopamine. So much so that I’ve had to drastically reduce my prescription amph doses. Down 70% in my amph intake. And as a typical adhd-er, stimulants make me sleepy. I had to keep reducing my stim doses until I hit a sweet spot.

I think Anavar , on the other hand , seems to work more on noradrenaline , rather than pure dopamine. So more focus on tasks etc for me whereas primo is just a pure flush of dopamine , similar to taking dextroamphetamine (as opposed to mixed salts or racemic amph )

 

[Juicedhead]

I was on 60mg of prozac cuz I would get mad anxiety on tren and eq. It helped forsure but it fucked up my appetite so I stopped taking it. honestly didn't notice much of a difference. it does help me be less angry(im angry everyday, just my personality and people piss me off) but id say if you have been diagnosed with an actual mental illness like schizophrenia , or bi polar depressing . do not take steroids ever in my opinion or if you suffer from severe depression don't take steroids ever. Its sad but a lot of guys end up committing suicide when they are on cycle or come off cycle we just don't hear about it. I actually just read a medical report about a guy who committed suicide on deca, he was struggling with depression. Just saying please be very cautious if there is an underlying issue with depression.

 

[dafqu1]

you got to get off anti psychotics if you're not a deranged delusion lunatic not on them. taking neuroleptics for autism lmao, what are you retarded?? you know that shit is eating your brain and fucking you up permanently right??

 

[Papazorus]

you got to get off anti psychotics if you're not a deranged delusion lunatic not on them. taking neuroleptics for autism lmao, what are you retarded?? you know that shit is eating your brain and fucking you up permanently right??

I m not retarded, I just follow doctors guidance. They suppose to know what they doing. I don't think it's eating brain.
It's was suppose to help with depression as I am treatment resistant.
Always better to be off every meds whenever is possible I agree

 

[dafqu1]

I m not retarded, I just follow doctors guidance. They suppose to know what they doing. I don't think it's eating brain.
It's was suppose to help with depression as I am treatment resistant.
Always better to be off every meds whenever is possible I agree

anti psychotics are eating the grey matter out of your cerebellum right. get off ASAP. The purpose of neuroleptics is to turn psychotic people into submissive plants by chemically lobotomizing them. u are taking the most neurotoxic and damaging meds on the planet right now and for no reason lmao. Those drugs are supposed to be used to treat psychosis short term, taking them any longer than a couple weeks is going to mess you up for the rest of ur life.

 

[Resore]

anti psychotics are eating the grey matter out of your cerebellum right. get off ASAP. The purpose of neuroleptics is to turn psychotic people into submissive plants by chemically lobotomizing them. u are taking the most neurotoxic and damaging meds on the planet right now and for no reason lmao. Those drugs are supposed to be used to treat psychosis short term, taking them any longer than a couple weeks is going to mess you up for the rest of ur life.

But what you gonna do without those meds in the world right now as it is?

 

[dafqu1]

But what you gonna do without those meds in the world right now as it is?

not get my iq permanently lowered and my endocrine system all messed up? if ur taking neuroleptics ur basically taking brain eating sissy pills. Also psychiatrists get handouts for prescribing this shit and will prescribe it for ANYTHING do some research on the shit those psychopaths prescribe for you before you take it lmao

 

[dafqu1]

the world is not a nice place everything is subtly evil. if you dont get wise ur gonna continue to get fucked by everything that wants to(which is ur doctor prescribing you neuroleptics for autism inthis case)

 

[Juggy3838]

the world is not a nice place everything is subtly evil. if you dont get wise ur gonna continue to get fucked by everything that wants to(which is ur doctor prescribing you neuroleptics for autism inthis case)

Low dose neuroleptics are extremely common additional medication for Autism spectrum disorders. Especially in children and adolescents.

They reduce obsessive thoughts, irritability, help with communication and overall global functioning.

It’s not weird at all his psychiatrist added one. It’s probably Risperidone or aripiprazole.

Edit: I’m not arguing they have significant side effects….just the idea that the doctor is off base.

 

[Scruf]

Might want to read up on AAS increasing dopamine and/or upregulating dopamine receptors. I'm not well versed on the topic but I've read that AAS ramps up the dopamine system. If you are taking meds to decrease dopamine that might be a bad combination.

As far as depression I wouldn't worry unless you have manic episodes. Just stick to reasonable dose AAS that has low mental side effects like test, primo, Oxandralone, EQ, etc. Avoid harsh orals and 19 nors. If you plan to PCT though you might have a hell of a time as depression is a common side effect during PCT and if you already have bad depression the crash might be pretty bad.

Agree with Uncle Buns, AAS could actually help your overall mood and help you get into a healthy pattern with your exercise and diet which could in turn help with your other conditions. Good luck and stay light on the doses and see you feel.

 

[fireandiron]

Cycled while taking multiple mood stabilizers and an atypical antidepressant. Started at 200mg Test E/wk then eased into 400mg Test E/wk for 12 weeks as a trial run - I really should have started lower than 200, but I was eager, which is a poor excuse. However, I was fine the whole time. I had several multi-compound cycles under my belt from about 5 or 6 years prior, so I also knew what I was getting into.

I messed around with Tren in the past, but I should not have done that - undiagnosed bipolar 1 at the time. It messed with everything in my life. Like everything. I am in a much better place now, oddly enough because of the sequence of events that followed the Trentastrophe on my life. When you take Tren, you feel like god. Then you get off it and you think, "Holy fuck, that messed me up. I will never touch it again." After a while, that line of thought changes to, "Welllllll, maybe a baby dose of 75-100mg/wk won't kill me." I'm battling those thoughts right now. Lol. God save the world around me if I fuck with Tren again. Point is, Tren isn't right for everyone, but it's especially not right for those with mental health disorders. Just avoid it.

Anyway, I agree with the other advice. Dial in your diet, training, sleep, meds, mood, have a rock solid (and very well-researched) plan before you start, and create an emergency plan with a person or people you trust to inform about this. Until you have those seven things locked down, don't start. When you do start, ease into it and continually assess.

If you're wondering about physical interactions between compounds, I have not found anything significant in the substances I have used or researched.

The best advice is to talk to a doc, but we know how that may go, which is likely why you're her. My advice is based on my experience - yours may wildly vary. Proceed with great caution.

 

[Resore]

not get my iq permanently lowered and my endocrine system all messed up? if ur taking neuroleptics ur basically taking brain eating sissy pills. Also psychiatrists get handouts for prescribing this shit and will prescribe it for ANYTHING do some research on the shit those psychopaths prescribe for you before you take it lmao

You are absolutely right. There are a lot of snake oil sellers in medicine. I also think that those psych medics are prescribed way to early for most of the patient. We cant forget, there is also a number of patients who need that stuff. The option without meds would make life incredibly hard. For them, in most of the western society, its the only option.