Cycle Recommendation / Hematocrit

[Nick_Vaz]

Hello everyone
I am in search of knowledge from more experienced people than I. Currently 25 and on TRT, been doing a ton of research on doing a safe successful cycle. I’ll be honest I’ve gotten ahead of myself and I have a ton of Test Cyp / NPP / Primo and a few other orals. In addition to a ton of ancillaries and supps. But going to pump the brakes for a minute as much as I want to try all of this shit. Is the general consensus still on the good old 400-500mg test for 16 weeks? Would be very interested in what your guys thoughts might be. Also would love to know the cycles some guys have ran what’s been the worst for your RBC / HCT count. I’ve been rather obsessed in the pursuit of controlling hematocrit as I despise giving blood ( seems there’s mixed thoughts on tha anyway). But any advice you guys have is much appreciated.

 

[SonhoDourado]

EQ will raise H&H more than any other compound. Cycle advice is to use one compound and increase the dosage incrementally until desired results occur. Eat clean and make sure to include plenty of cardio training. High H&H isn’t inherently dangerous so long as you’re not dehydrated or have elevated platelets. There will be increased blood volume from the AAS. Keeping an eye on water retention and blood pressure is key. Uncontrolled hypertension will affect the kidneys, heart, and put you at risk for a cardiovascular event. That coupled with high H&H can present a problem IMHO.

To keep H&H in check you can do smaller daily injections and eat a grapefruit every single day. You can also juice 1-2 a day. There is a good study on pub med about grapefruit lowering hematocrit. In the study those with the highest numbers at the start experienced the biggest drops in H&H.

25 is young to be on TRT, were you hypogonadal or just not seeing results from training/symptomatic? Either way you hopefully have a long life ahead so take every precaution to ensure your health comes before the appearance in the mirror. While you can burn the candle at both ends seemingly forever in your 20s you don’t wanna be dealing with the fallout in your 40s-end.

 

[RockyP]

Run test alone for as long as you can before adding another compound. Run it as high as you can without needing an AI, then add an AI. While it's become fashionable to add compounds like EQ or Primo to Test cycles to control E2 and get extra anabolism, it's really silly / waste if you're only running 300 of test. You're better pushing that test to 500+ on it's own even if you need an AI. IMO, not worth it to add something like EQ / Primo until that test level gets to 600+. Then, you can add 300 of primo or EQ to at least get something from those compounds. Running 150 of primo / EQ is a waste (I've done it so I know), and you're better off just running a low dose AI if needed with higher test.

H/H is highly individual and genetically determined. You may find certain compounds impact your H/H more than others. You need to do cardio for your general health but this will also help control H/H (as much as you can control it within your genetic make-up).

All PED users should be evaluated for sleep apnea irregardless of body habitus, age, etc. If you have sleep apnea, it will make HCT levels higher than normal and adding PED's to that is going to just jack it up even higher. Also, OSA is a terrible disease and will make you feel like shit, hinder your progress in the gym, etc.

Lastly, don't run PED's beyond simple TRT if your bodyfat is over 15%. You will just invite side effects like increased BP, estrogen, higher H/H, etc. Best to get in shape first, then add PED's as needed. You'll tolerate them better and they will work much better the more fit / lean you are.