Bigbicep
Member
Hey MESO! Question.. is dbol actually going to give you some long term size? Or is it really just a temporary muscle bloat and strength thing? Are you better off running a high dose of anavar instead?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Dbol or anavar
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Iron_Yuppie
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Duration matters more than which drug you choose. If you run low dose dbol for eight weeks then sure, you’d grow some actual muscle tissue, not materially different than with anavar over the same time frame.
mae_geri
Member
I'm on 50mg Var (oral) at the moment and taking 20mg dbol (injec. Version). The Strength on Dbol is from another planet mate! Even 50mg Var for 6 weeks is nothing to inject. Dbol 20mg for 8 weeks or longer (because of the inject. Version).
lukiss96
Member
Dude you ask these strange questions lately, it might be curiosity. But seriously answers are common sense, if you do research a bit more, I guess you will find out everything you need to know. If you need some guide where to research then of course ask. Otherwise @Iron_Yuppie answered it.
Bigbicep
Member
Does the injectable actually putting on lean mass that’s not just water in your muscles tho?
Bigbicep
Member
I am doing a lot of research and yes curiosity aswell. There’s people out there that say dbol will fill you up with water and it’s a temporary thing that go away as soon as you stop. Then there’s people who are saying that they actually keep muscle from it. If read that it the best compound for lean muscle growth but long term tho? I don’t want to look jacked asf for a few weeks then shrink 90% a week later if people are taking it purely for strength and the extra strength is what’s making your muscle actually grow then nice
Astartes
Member
*sigh* This thread makes me tired
UncleBuns
Member
Try both and find out?
mae_geri
Member
exactly! Like I do at the moment
I can say I'm a big fan of dbol (strength,volume, mood enhancer). There areother people more fan of the Var because of the results (veins, hardness, libido). Different products, different results.
lukiss96
Member
You always lose than on look when you come off. Regardless if it's water weight or glycogen.
Anavar's nicer cosmetic effect is said to be "keepable" because on scale you don't lose that much when you stop taking it, because you don't gain so much water in the first place.
Meanwhile a dbol will pack weight like nothing else, water mainly of course. Human body contains like 80% of water.
So there is no keepable gains or look steroid. You always will lose that. To maintain it you always have to take that what made you look like that in the first place. Take that away and it's not sustainable. Makes sense?
This "losing gains" thing should not be applied to orals only, people believe you can retain deca gains for long. Why? Cause maybe the half life is 2 weeks and it takes long time to clear, right.
Testosterone gains again, expect to maintain 60% at most aftet all is said and done and you're deep in to pct.
Note:
I hope this post is helpful for someone, it might not be you OP. But maybe someone else browsing might accidently read it to get better understanding of this whole "keepable" gains concept.
TLDR;
You will always lose gains when you come off, be it water or cosmetic effect. Only part of the actual lean mass tissue gained will be yours to take. It is not a lot, but makes substantial difference if done right in the first 2-3 or so steroid cycles. Aftet that it's a hard, hard grind for much less.
poolshockguy
Member
Injectable dbol. It's 40mg/ml. I'm testing the waters at 10mg daily.
mae_geri
Member
I drop the inject. dbol and stoped the var after 6 weeks now. I felt nausea from the dbol....and I stoped all orals now, switch to masteron now....only injecteables now 
poolshockguy
Member
Your only running masteron? With Test? Think primo is #1
mae_geri
Member
Test 125mg eod with 100mg Mast. eod
poolshockguy
Member
Gotcha. That sounds interesting. A cutting cycle.
Bigbicep
Member
What would you guys prefer tho in gaining lean muscle? Will dbol put on more muscle than var say when coming off and losing that water? Or is it better running a high dose of var? Like say 50mg of dbol vs 100mg var after you have finished the 8 week or so cycle once all that water goes and that “on look” goes which one am I more likely to see more retained lean muscle? That I can hold onto until the next cycle
Maybe someone can explain.
I tried 75 anavar daily for a month and a half from a reputable source on meso, and the only thing I noticed was hair loss. Literally no gains, no fat loss; nothing. There was zero change to my physique. And I checked daily - MAINLY because I'm so handsome. BUT ... that's another story.
Is there a magical method of administrating var that yields something noticeable? Is there a special prayer that needs to be said before or directly after administration? Do you need to be in a vacuum less environment to acquire the life changing benefits that var offers?
Var seems useless.
Thank you!
I tried 75 anavar daily for a month and a half from a reputable source on meso, and the only thing I noticed was hair loss. Literally no gains, no fat loss; nothing. There was zero change to my physique. And I checked daily - MAINLY because I'm so handsome. BUT ... that's another story.
Is there a magical method of administrating var that yields something noticeable? Is there a special prayer that needs to be said before or directly after administration? Do you need to be in a vacuum less environment to acquire the life changing benefits that var offers?
Var seems useless.
Thank you!
poolshockguy
Member
How much test were you on.
Bigbicep
Member
hahahaha love it
I had really great results on anavar at 20mg morning for fasted cardio and then 60-80mg at night for weightlifting. It really shredded me. I did not gain much strength however just definition. I coupled it with 500mg test and 400mg deca per week. I also use semaglutide 1mg a week with it to handle mk677 hunger and to be able to eat less than maintenance. The anavar I got from my raw source which kind of is questionable imo. I think this last order I ordered dbol and they gave me anavar again haha. The dbol I ordered from them before was legit (tasted like poison/was more powder like) and this new dbol has identical crystal structure of the anavar. I don't get the dbol high on it either but instead been still getting more definition. High dose anavar gives you instagram influencer look. I've been tapering in the stomach a lot, back is tight and cobra/wing look, getting striations. No more fat water logged man look. I've lost .8% bf in 16 days according to my scale.
