Dbol/Sus/Tren Cycle Help

[TitoGordo]

Guys, I posted questions a year or so ago on a cycle, wanted some opinions. First, Im 25, 5'9, 190 @ 18%bf, and I havent lifted in 6 months, reason being I had a SERIOUS accident to my right hand involving concrete and a 20lb. sledgehammer. I know I should be in better shape before a cycle but I HAVE to be in shape by April 16, CANCUN!! Want to build for first 4 and burn for last 4.

1-8 (2on/2off) Clen/ECA
1-3or4 25mg Dbol (ed)
1-8 750 Sus (1cc M/W/F)
5-8 Tren?? (Should I? If so... dosage?)
PCT (??)-- Clomid -how much?

-Problems
Thinning hair (taking Propecia already and using Nioxin shamp./cond.) Very prone to gyno (will have nolva & arimi; could I take both in case)

-Cardio
3 days/week 30 min. cardio@ awakening on clen breakfast.

-Lifting
2 hours every f***ing day

-Diet (4000 cal first 4/3000 cal last 4)
Tuna, Chicken, whole wheat bread, veggies, rice(post workout only), protein powder

-Previous Cycles (3 years ago) I was an idiot and I should kill the kid who set up this cycle!!! Oh well, my fault for not being informed.
1 Eq/Deca/Halotestin


Guys, I really wanna do this, need the jump start to get in the gym and do hardcore work. I know I cant get where I want to be that quickly without it. Any pointers appreciated.

 

[graybass]

cycle

Looks good, My only comment is I would like to see either Deca or EQ at the start also (IMO), say in weeks 1-4, then the Tren. Most of the bros say Tren
EOD (every other day) 75-150mg, depending on your experience, and money.
As far as the clomid, I've had good results with 100-150mg ED for 1st week and 50-100mg next 2 weeks. Some people need more but, I don't think you will!!
By the way, welcome to our board.
(Wow!! first post) graybass

 

[TitoGordo]

Scared of Deca/EQ because of what ive read about reverse effect of propecia even when mixing with test. thanks

How hard (muscle density) will I be in the end of cycle?

 

[TitoGordo]

bump for info. (im a newbie)

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

Looks like you have some knowledge here. Cycle looks ok. I would do tren ED 50mg. IMO its a waste to do it EOD. Its in and out of your system by next day so its no good to do it EOD. Goal is to keep constant test levels as possible. Sustanon is ok EOD. Actually thats a bit high for this cycle. I think 750mg week is to much because basically this is your first cycle besides that prior one some time ago. Wish you had enanthate instead of sust. Do sust Every 3 days instead to get that advantage of the prop in it. Do tren 50mg ED. Dbol looks good. Try nolvadex 10mg ED through out this cycle up it to 20mg through PCT. Im trying to figure out how to keep you lean and looking good for Cancun by this way. Tren is an excellent hardening drug. You dont blow up to much off Sustanon. It's the dbol that will convert to estrogen thats the only worry here but you should be fine by the end of this cycle. Diet looks good. Cardio looks good. All looks good basically. Like I said looks like you did some homework on cycling already. Just dont kill your self in the gym trying so hard. DO NOT over train. Drink your water. Check my clomid therapy link and read up on PCT. Also any any informational links. Have fun in Cacun brother. LMR

 

[TitoGordo]

bump bump...

 

[Deacon]

run the tren 75 mgs ED the sus 500 per week and the d-bol 30 mgs per week for 4 weeks.

sus for me works better run at least 12 weeks but maybe in your case 8 will be enough good luck bro

 

[Iron Jay]

run the tren 75 mgs ED the sus 500 per week and the d-bol 30 mgs per week for 4 weeks.

sus for me works better run at least 12 weeks but maybe in your case 8 will be enough good luck bro

Yup, tren ed is the way...50mg ed will do ya good, I wouldn't waste my time with only using it 4 weeks..run it the whole cycle or save it for later...If you run the tren the whole cycle you might not even need the dbol, its up to you...Tren kicks in fast though, I feel it after 2 days..My favorite to stack with prop, kicks ass!

 

[TitoGordo]

Thanks for everything guys. I just found out that I can start on Wed. Im already set with all but the tren. I decided to ask about it because all Ive read on here is how it kicks so much ass. My guy can obtain but it may take a week for the kit and legitimacy may be an issue. Well, I guess my questions are these.

1. Is the tren an absoute must?
2. If so, should I wait to take the rest of the gear until ive got it?

Once again thanks for your time guys, any other info appreciated.

 

[jaysmithinwesson]

if i wanted those results as you do, 1-4 dbol 1-8 fina 75eod 1-8 prop 100 ed, i would run nolv or l-dex all the way so i could watch the results, make sure im doing what i want. and to answer your fina Q yes run it! i know that is a lot of sticking but thats what it will take.

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

Tren is an excellent hardening drug and will give you that tight lean look. You want to look good I would throw it in. Sustanon wont blow you up and you can achieve a good look with out tren if you want. You have the diet and training down good so it might not be a bad thing to just do sust. At 500mg week It shouldn't blow you up and aromatize. Also, always wait for all youre gear together. Just like your PCT. Dont start a cycle until you have the whole thing planned out and ready to go. Have fun in Cancun for me bro. Freakin wish I was going.

Thanks for everything guys. I just found out that I can start on Wed. Im already set with all but the tren. I decided to ask about it because all Ive read on here is how it kicks so much ass. My guy can obtain but it may take a week for the kit and legitimacy may be an issue. Well, I guess my questions are these.

1. Is the tren an absoute must?
2. If so, should I wait to take the rest of the gear until ive got it?

Once again thanks for your time guys, any other info appreciated.

 

[TitoGordo]

guys,

Im in week 3 and loving it. I have gained 5 lbs and lost 2 inches from waist already with cardio only 2x a week during off days. Not eating enough cals to take full adv. of sus but im still experimenting with the timing of caloric intake. NEways I got some q's for yous guys.

Cycle Details
wk 1 1g sus
wk 2-8 750mg sus
wk 1-4 50mg dbol (2on 1off coinciding w/ workout sch)
40mg nolva ed
5mg finasteride ed

I can score some winnie tabs, could i consider running 50mg ed in weeks 5-8 after i off the dbol? I would rather do that than go w/ tren this time.

Ive been using 40mg ed of nolva so far, should i change dose w/o the dbol?

Thats all for now, gotta run. Ill ask more q's later today.

 

[TitoGordo]

haha

haha,

I forgot to list the fact that i started clen and cardio started 2 weeks before cycle. wnet from 35 to 33 jeans. Should i try the winnie? I could get it for free, my hookup said he probably will give me 30 or 40 that he had layin around.