Deadlift #'s and your methods

[ickyrica]

You guys are strong mother fuckers. I'm amazed at the weight you are pulling compared to body weight.

Everyday on Meso I always seem to get another slice of humble pie. I'm getting max weights now on bench, dl and squat. I have bench and squat numbers, doing dl on Thursday and I know I won't hit the numbers you guys get!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Yeah, DD93, same here. I make great gains, hit PRs and then regress for awhile and then come back and so on and so on.

The lower back is a picky bitch for sure. At the more advanced level balancing the volume and intensity is like walking a tightrope. Screw around and go too light or too little even for a little bit and you'll end up down 30lbs off your max.

 

[RodgerThat]

Ugh, my back is so fucking tight. I'm going to have to start foam rolling, stretching and using the lacrosse ball on my glutes... I really can't be bothered and more or less don't have the time, either.

You gotta make time my man, saying you can't be bothered to do it is basically saying you don't care to grow. Flexibility and strength have a direct corrolation and its crazy how many people neglect it. I'd rather spend 10mins stretching then an extra 10 mins lifting because that stretching will make you better then the extra 10 mins of lifting would. Best LB for LB lifters in the world are extremely flexible and not to mention every Olympic lifter who's cleaning and jerking our max deadlift weights also have flexibility like A yogi lol. No need to be as flexible as a dancer but being able to touch your toes cold is an absolute must and having the mobility to get through workouts without pain is great

 

[RandallNowan]

You're right. I'll commit to it.

 

[wedorecover]

I Just pulled 400 I think I could have got more that was after a bunch of sets at 189 body weight

 

[Eloquence]

You gotta make time my man, saying you can't be bothered to do it is basically saying you don't care to grow. Flexibility and strength have a direct corrolation and its crazy how many people neglect it. I'd rather spend 10mins stretching then an extra 10 mins lifting because that stretching will make you better then the extra 10 mins of lifting would. Best LB for LB lifters in the world are extremely flexible and not to mention every Olympic lifter who's cleaning and jerking our max deadlift weights also have flexibility like A yogi lol. No need to be as flexible as a dancer but being able to touch your toes cold is an absolute must and having the mobility to get through workouts without pain is great

Not a huge fan of rich piana but that mofo can stretch like a fucking 100 lb chick legit impressive

 

[devildog93]

I'm not sure that stretching coincides with strength, like at all. I can do the side splits but it doesn't seem to help my deadlift much. I think most of it is genetics. I could do them from age 8 or so. Fronts, not happening. Again though, i don't see that it helps much if at all. A loose front end or bad shocks on a car really doesn't help it's stability at all. In fact, probably he opposite.

 

[RodgerThat]

I'm not sure that stretching coincides with strength, like at all. I can do the side splits but it doesn't seem to help my deadlift much. I think most of it is genetics. I could do them from age 8 or so. Fronts, not happening. Again though, i don't see that it helps much if at all. A loose front end or bad shocks on a car really doesn't help it's stability at all. In fact, probably he opposite.

Arbitrary thinking, if you aren't flexible enough to get into a machanically advantageous position you couldn't possibly pull the most weight possible. Your muscles don't have to be tight to be stable quite the opposite as you have no control over a tight muscle.

 

[devildog93]

If you aren't flexible enough to get in a advantageous position? What kind of bullshit statement is that? I mean really? You are talking about some extremely inflexible people that can't squat, deadlift, or bench due to lack of range of motion. I would not consider those people even athletic and would call them fringe outliers at best.

The point i was trying to make is that i go through cycles of training or years where i am rolling on the mats more than other years. I'm being pushed,pulled, twisted and i'm generally more flexible than years i don't do this. I don't notice it doing a damn thing for my lifting. I am stating that i do not notice a significant difference between times in my life when i am in peak flexibility and times when i do nothing but lift, that is all.

If you find that stretching helps you, then stretch it on out. I haven't found that it helps much of anything when we are talking about power. I don't even know that it helps much when we are talking about athletic endeavors outside of warming up to a task.

 

[RodgerThat]

So you're saying that everyone can get into a proper low bar with tight back? That everyone is able to squat without butt wink? That everyone's dorsal flexion is at a point where they can maintain the most vertical bar path possible? That's just squat.

Power is created through 3 elements: strength, speed and flexibility.

 

[RandallNowan]

Flexibility is definitely an issue for me - it doesn't mean I can't lift... It often means I can't lift optimally.

 

[ickyrica]

Max DL is 445 x 1

Was hoping for more

Max squat is 410 x 1. I feel like my DL should be higher.

 

[CAswole]

Max DL is 445 x 1

Was hoping for more

Max squat is 410 x 1. I feel like my DL should be higher.

Good work. Yeah i thought maybe higher too. Did you do them both in the same day? Did you squat first?

 

[ickyrica]

Different days.

Funny thing is I am returning from a leg issue. Strange...

I am interested in that Sheiko (? Spelling) routine. I am starting to drift in the gym a bit and decided to get my max #'s and go from their.

 

[ickyrica]

Got some training to do lol

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Max DL is 445 x 1

Was hoping for more

Max squat is 410 x 1. I feel like my DL should be higher.

My squat to deadlift ratio is skewed in favor of my deadlift by a lot. Some people squat more than they deadlift. Just depends on how you're built.

Different days.

Funny thing is I am returning from a leg issue. Strange...

I am interested in that Sheiko (? Spelling) routine. I am starting to drift in the gym a bit and decided to get my max #'s and go from their.

Do the four day version, much better than the three day one in my opinion.

 

[ickyrica]

My squat to deadlift ratio is skewed in favor of my deadlift by a lot. Some people squat more than they deadlift. Just depends on how you're built.



Do the four day version, much better than the three day one in my opinion.

I have thick thighs and hamstrings and have a long torso. Maybe that's why?

Thanks for the 4day tip. I'm ready to get back into a routine again. Kinda hungry.

At the very least the last few weeks have been a good eye opener. Now I know my real strength in bench, squat and DL. I know my approx BF%, not that it really matters a shit ton lol.

I've always basically had hypothetical numbers to fill in those blanks.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I have thick thighs and hamstrings and have a long torso. Maybe that's why?

Thanks for the 4day tip. I'm ready to get back into a routine again. Kinda hungry.

At the very least the last few weeks have been a good eye opener. Now I know my real strength in bench, squat and DL. I know my approx BF%, not that it really matters a shit ton lol.

I've always basically had hypothetical numbers to fill in those blanks.

Short legs, long torso and long arms would be ideal. The more vertical your back is and the less your knees are bent when you're setting up for your pull the better. It's the people who have their backs more horizontal or their knees almost in a squat position that'll struggle and are better off with sumo.

Here's the link for the Sheiko spreadsheet.

Powerlifting/Strongman

There's a link on the Sheiko forums as well, but I've never gotten it to work.

 

[ickyrica]

Short legs, long torso and long arms would be ideal. The more vertical your back is and the less your knees are bent when you're setting up for your pull the better. It's the people who have their backs more horizontal or their knees almost in a squat position that'll struggle and are better off with sumo.

Here's the link for the Sheiko spreadsheet.

Powerlifting/Strongman

There's a link on the Sheiko forums as well, but I've never gotten it to work.

A gentleman and a scholar. Thx man!

 

[ickyrica]

Short legs, long torso and long arms would be ideal. The more vertical your back is and the less your knees are bent when you're setting up for your pull the better. It's the people who have their backs more horizontal or their knees almost in a squat position that'll struggle and are better off with sumo.

Here's the link for the Sheiko spreadsheet.

Powerlifting/Strongman

There's a link on the Sheiko forums as well, but I've never gotten it to work.

Thx again for the link!
Starting the 4day plan today. very excited to try something new.
Starting strength:
Bench 365
Squat 410
Deadlift 445

Days off; active rest? Other body parts depending on energy and recovery?

I have a feeling this might chew me up and spit me out lol. Ready to get at it though.