Deca dosages?

[strongsafety41]

I agree. I believe it should say due to the low aromatization rate.



It's relevant in the discussion of prolactin and general effect of nandrolones on sexual function.

True, but this guy is talking about nandrolone alone. We're supplementing with test. As, notits mentioned ... A lot of holes are in this "Dr" credibility with his statement and lack of citations.

 

[mkulltra58]

Estrogenic effects resulting from reaction with aromatase are also reduced due to lessened enzyme interaction,[2] but effects such asgynaecomastia and reduced libido still occur in larger doses because of other mechanisms. Other side-effects of abuse can include erectile dysfunctionand cardiovascular damage, as well as several ailments resulting from the drug's effect of lowering levels ofluteinizing hormone through negative feedback. Erectile dysfunction is attributed to the weaker action of dihydronandrolone in the penis since dihydrotestosterone is a known sexual modulator.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone

 

[Notits]

Estrogenic effects resulting from reaction with aromatase are also reduced due to lessened enzyme interaction,[2] but effects such asgynaecomastia and reduced libido still occur in larger doses because of other mechanisms. Other side-effects of abuse can include erectile dysfunctionand cardiovascular damage, as well as several ailments resulting from the drug's effect of lowering levels ofluteinizing hormone through negative feedback. Erectile dysfunction is attributed to the weaker action of dihydronandrolone in the penis since dihydrotestosterone is a known sexual modulator.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone

Your not doing yourself any favors here..

 

[mkulltra58]

Your not doing yourself any favors here..

Why is that? You were the one asking about deca dick. I'm doing the research for my own use of Deca and just sharing information I've come across. I thought this forum was for sharing information about AAS.

 

[Notits]

Why is that? You were the one asking about deca dick. I'm doing the research for my own use of Deca and just sharing information I've come across. I thought this forum was for sharing information about AAS.

It sure is about sharing information. And you have half a dozen big guys here that are sharing first hand accounts of no deca dick and trying to counter that with wiki posts.

 

[mkulltra58]

I'm not discounting anyone's personal experience. I'm personally interested in the science behind this stuff unlike a lot of newbs that just blindly listen to their buddies, or better yet someone on a forum.

Based on the science, it seems that you guys are running enough testosterone to counteract the libido issues. That helps me so I don't run a low dose test, high deca cycle.

Like I said before, I'm not here to try and disrespect anybody. I'm here to learn. I care enough about my health that I am willing to do as much research as necessary to not fuck myself up. Don't want to be one of those guys in the PCT or Men's Health forum wondering why his dick won't work. Even though it's big enough that she wouldn't even know...j/k But srsly it is

 

[Notits]

I'm not discounting anyone's personal experience. I'm personally interested in the science behind this stuff unlike a lot of newbs that just blindly listen to their buddies, or better yet someone on a forum.

Based on the science, it seems that you guys are running enough testosterone to counteract the libido issues. That helps me so I don't run a low dose test, high deca cycle.

Like I said before, I'm not here to try and disrespect anybody. I'm here to learn. I care enough about my health that I am willing to do as much research as necessary to not fuck myself up. Don't want to be one of those guys in the PCT or Men's Health forum wondering why his dick won't work. Even though it's big enough that she wouldn't even know...j/k But srsly it is

Your dick is not big.
Running more test to counteract the made up deca dick is not the case. Unmanaged e2 is the culprit. End of story

 

[mkulltra58]

You're right. Low e2 is the culprit. Because you are running enough test with it that is aromatizing high enough to keep you e2 out of the gutter. Without the test, deca is shutting your natural test production down and the deca isn't aromatizing enough estrogen. Like I said, you are running enough testosterone to counteract the libido issues caused by low e2 of running deca.

Actually it is that big.

 

[Notits]

You're right. Low e2 is the culprit. Because you are running enough test with it that is aromatizing high enough to keep you e2 out of the gutter. Without the test, deca is shutting your natural test production down and the deca isn't aromatizing enough estrogen. Like I said, you are running enough testosterone to counteract the libido issues caused by low e2 of running deca.

Actually it is that big.

No... Smh. Your still not getting it.

 

[mkulltra58]

No... Smh. Your still not getting it.

Like I said, I'm here to learn. If I am wrong, I would like to know why.

 

[Sampei]

MANAGING E2 MEANS keeping E2 in range!

It's not about having high e2 because you are using test with deca.

Damn it boy, are you a bit dumb aren't you? ahaha

High e2 = deca dick
low e2 = deca dick
normal e2 = pretty dick

got it now?

 

[Millard]

It sure is about sharing information. And you have half a dozen big guys here that are sharing first hand accounts of no deca dick and trying to counter that with wiki posts.

Bro science by big guys who use steroids tends to be really popular on the forums. But it doesn't necessarily trump the empirical evidence by science geeks who never use steroids. Bro science has been proven wrong again and again.

Don't get me wrong. The anecdotal reports are invaluable. And the information and contributions of accomplished and experienced steroid users who share their experiences has greatly advanced the knowledgebase. There are a lot of lessons to be learned from the guys that are jacked far beyond what nature intended (in many cases at least).

The ideal approach to addressing the different standards of evidence is find a way to bridge the gap between science and practice. Thanks to places like MESO the gap is smaller than every before. It's thanks to the people who are capable of bridging that gap that we can have the best of both worlds!

 

[Millard]

erectile dysfunction is attributed to the weaker action of dihydronandrolone in the penis since dihydrotestosterone is a known sexual modulator.

High e2 = deca dick
low e2 = deca dick
normal e2 = pretty dick

The (high or low) E2 explanation applies to all AAS. It's not unique to deca and the deca dick phenomenon.

There have been several proposed explanations for the observed negative libido effects of nandrolones. The one you cited in wikipedia is a common one i.e. conversion to DHN instead of DHT. Others include high prolactin (not likely) and nandrolone-specific neurosteroid activity (interesting).

 

[jaymaximus]

Bro science by big guys who use steroids tends to be really popular on the forums. But it doesn't necessarily trump the empirical evidence by science geeks who never use steroids. Bro science has been proven wrong again and again.

Don't get me wrong. The anecdotal reports are invaluable. And the information and contributions of accomplished and experienced steroid users who share their experiences has greatly advanced the knowledgebase. There are a lot of lessons to be learned from the guys that are jacked far beyond what nature intended (in many cases at least).

The ideal approach to addressing the different standards of evidence is find a way to bridge the gap between science and practice. Thanks to places like MESO the gap is smaller than every before. It's thanks to the people who are capable of bridging that gap that we can have the best of both worlds!

The (high or low) E2 explanation applies to all AAS. It's not unique to deca and the deca dick phenomenon.

There have been several proposed explanations for the observed negative libido effects of nandrolones. The one you cited in wikipedia is a common one i.e. conversion to DHN instead of DHT. Others include high prolactin (not likely) and nandrolone-specific neurosteroid activity (interesting).

Leave it to Millard to ruin a perfectly good argument / disagreement with logic and facts. SMH...

 

[Notits]

Bro science by big guys who use steroids tends to be really popular on the forums. But it doesn't necessarily trump the empirical evidence by science geeks who never use steroids. Bro science has been proven wrong again and again.

Don't get me wrong. The anecdotal reports are invaluable. And the information and contributions of accomplished and experienced steroid users who share their experiences has greatly advanced the knowledgebase. There are a lot of lessons to be learned from the guys that are jacked far beyond what nature intended (in many cases at least).

The ideal approach to addressing the different standards of evidence is find a way to bridge the gap between science and practice. Thanks to places like MESO the gap is smaller than every before. It's thanks to the people who are capable of bridging that gap that we can have the best of both worlds!

Couldn't agree more. Cant wait to see the science.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Deca dick is alive and real.
Ask my wife. I broke her love box with it.
She doesn't know or understand much but when she knows I'm running deca she knows she's in for it