Ok I'll sum this up and hope somebody has some imput to help me out. I buy all my gear from a UG source who has one of the best reps, but has recently retired, I'm sure most know who it is now, but needless to say he has no complaints on his gear. I know 2 individuals who were running Deca by itself from this source at 400 - 450mg a week for 7 - 8 weeks. I called him today to see if he would need HCG for post cycle and he said the Deca has done nothing for either one of them. Infact he said He thinks it may have had a negative effect on his training. If the product is legit which I believe it is what could be a possibilty for it not working in not 1, but 2 individuals simultaneously with the doses I"ve given, please help anyone, thank you
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Deca not working, why??
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tonyatl
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please elaborate on nothing.....training, diet, and rest are significant factors in success (depending upon definition) so those would need to be considered along with the gear in diagnosing the lack of results (whatever that means).... was this one of those famous deca only cycles? i.e. was other gear involved?
i guess the question is what is your definition of success?
i guess the question is what is your definition of success?
Not all steroids work for everyone. Deca didn't work for me @800mg/week for 8 weeks I gained only 4lb. But couldn't get my dick up for nothing.
so most likely these 2 people just dont respond to deca? one has run test before with awesome results and the other I dont know. The training and diet were the same off as on so I'd think it would make a difference adding the deca. these were both deca only cycles. Please give more information if you have. I just wanna make sure that it was the individual and not the gear.
tHe_ShOcKeR
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well, if the training was shitty before the deca, the training was probably shitty after the deca. steroids are not the "magical supplements" people make them out to be. in order to get results the training, diet, and rest still have to be good.
i'm not saying that your friends don't know how to train or diet, it's just a possibility. anyhoo, sometimes deca "works" for some people and not others, although i doubt that's the case.
besides, deca-only cycle suck. and the long ester means you won't be getting "results" until the fourth or fifth week.
i'm not saying that your friends don't know how to train or diet, it's just a possibility. anyhoo, sometimes deca "works" for some people and not others, although i doubt that's the case.
besides, deca-only cycle suck. and the long ester means you won't be getting "results" until the fourth or fifth week.
hardhatarea
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Is it just me or doesn't deca take about 4-5 weeks to really kick in anyway?
hardhatarea
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Shit, just saw Shockers post...don't I feel like a f*****g asshole...LOL
tHe_ShOcKeR
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hehe it's ok...i forgive you. 
Grizzly
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Real simple here. If diet was the same off cycle as on cycle, then the question becomes "were they gaining weight off cycle?" If not, then don't even think to blame the drugs.
the one guy ran 400mg of test a week for 10 weeks and blew up. Then came off for a while, kept most of gains. Then ran a month of d-bol and kept some gains. And now most recent The 450 Deca only cycle which didn't do shit. he trained and ate the same way he did on test, but he grew on test, so I'm gonna say it just wasnt enough Deca to do anything in a deca only cycle. This makes sense given everyones input I think, right?
bigkb
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Have either one of them ever used Deca, by itself, from anyone else or any other manufacturer, and it did work?
KB
KB
Grizzly
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juicestop said:
OR, it could be because he didn't eat enough considering his new bodyweight plus what he was wishing to gain. But, hey, I could be wrong. I mean, steroids do make muscle materialize out of thin air.
gixxerboy
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juicestop said:
You answered your own question bro.There is the proble right there.
thats just sad people think that steriods are some magic shit. If it was that easy just as adding some juice wouldnt we all be huge?
I'm on 600mg Qv Deca a week and blew up 6 pounds in the first week. I feel strange and light headed though. I've never felt strange like this when on roids before. I've gained strenght from it in the 3rd week. I got it from a certain source that has apparently scammed lots of bros from various boards. I just was lucky. It's helping my joints lots. I was in a wreck and couldn't lift to heavy.
brianguta2000
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eat mother fucker, eat!big roid said:
Maverick
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I'd like to add my 2cc's here...
Blaming the deca for his lack of gains or even the hindering of his training is just plain incorrect. Here is the reason why. Even if the deca was as fake as salad oil you would recieve simply no gains. Basic oil cannot hinder gains or make you regress plain and simple. The answer lies in his training routine. Think about this logically, if he is not eating correctly or training properly, even the best purest deca in the world is not going to help him one bit. How can he say in positive nitrogen balaqnce when he isn't taking in enough protein. How can you expect to gain or grow with the exception of minimal water retention.
Now the second thing to think about is this. I know that he says this UG source is reliable and one of the best there ever was and his quality was top notch but is now retired, wonder why he retired??? I am not saying that this is the reason but it could be a distinct possibility, but the simple fact remains that if he isn't eating properly you cannot blame the deca for not working when you are not giving it the proper tools in which to work with.
Maverick
Blaming the deca for his lack of gains or even the hindering of his training is just plain incorrect. Here is the reason why. Even if the deca was as fake as salad oil you would recieve simply no gains. Basic oil cannot hinder gains or make you regress plain and simple. The answer lies in his training routine. Think about this logically, if he is not eating correctly or training properly, even the best purest deca in the world is not going to help him one bit. How can he say in positive nitrogen balaqnce when he isn't taking in enough protein. How can you expect to gain or grow with the exception of minimal water retention.
Now the second thing to think about is this. I know that he says this UG source is reliable and one of the best there ever was and his quality was top notch but is now retired, wonder why he retired??? I am not saying that this is the reason but it could be a distinct possibility, but the simple fact remains that if he isn't eating properly you cannot blame the deca for not working when you are not giving it the proper tools in which to work with.
Maverick
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