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Deca vs. NPP recovery

jabrel3

jabrel3

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Just curious those of you who have used both Deca and NPP, do you find the recovery after NPP to really be much easier than Deca? I love Deca, but coming off of it really sucks lol.
 
I run ugl and regular pharma deca Im on I'm on now and the pharma deca has blown all the last 6-7 ugls deca I used away. I must say my joints are perfect right now on pharma I think many ugls replace it with test or something else. So wth Npp being very hard and expensive to get pharma grade I would just use the regular real pharma deca. Just my thoughts
 
jabrel3 said:
Just curious those of you who have used both Deca and NPP, do you find the recovery after NPP to really be much easier than Deca? I love Deca, but coming off of it really sucks lol.
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I wouldn't say it's easier but doesn't take nearly as long if that helps. Both shut you down hard and long.
 
Bc Deca Is released SLOWLY from fatty tissue (where it is "stored" over time) the attached ester doesn't seem to make much of a difference really.

Thus if you want to recover from Nandrolone the key is to use a "low dosage" like no more than 100mg/week, a short cycle length (less than 4 weeks) AND run Nandrolone first in the cycle.

Bc Nandrolone is WELL documented to linger for up to a YEAR in some users, I suggest those over the age of 30 and those concerned about their virility in the near future, avoid this AAS altogether.
 
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Dr JIM said:
Bc Deca Is released SLOWLY from fatty tissue (where it is "stored" over time) the attached ester doesn't seem to make much of a difference really.

Thus if you want to recover from Nandrolone the key is to use a "low dosage" like no more than 100mg/week, a short cycle length (less than 4 weeks) AND run Nandrolone first in the cycle.

Bc Nandrolone is WELL documented to linger for up to a YEAR in some users, I suggest those over the age of 30 and those concerned about their virility in the near future, avoid this AAS altogether.
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Now would you avoid npp over the age of 30 also?
 
I personally wouldn't use deca or NPP,there are too many other compounds that you can use and get the same or better results.As far as helping joints i have used low dose Eq and that helped.
 
Depends on what you want to accomplish.EQ and Tren will work for bulking,there are some orals also but i dont use them,Anavar,winstrol,Dbol.Once i used Eq i never used Deca again.Tren has some bad side effects but i got the best results with it added to my stack.
 
Oh wow. Eqs anabolic ratio make it sound good but I've always heard it was not comparable with test or deca.
 
I'm not that sure about tren better then npp for general health.
I mean ok NPP/DECA can give you very hard recovery due to metabolities, but look at tren... it's a fucking veterinary steroids use for cattle! It suppress immune system, it fucks with your stomach hard, it fucks with kidneys, night sweat, rage?, and shit load of sides in general. Is that much better for your health?

I doubt.... EQ is not comparable to NPP maybe to DECA, but for short cycle can't be used and it has to be run quite a long time.

I was thinking of doing 6 week cycle with 5 week of npp and 6 of test, wait one week and then start pct. Npp should clear in 2 weeks, but then there is the metabolities thing about deca.

So what should I fucking use for 4-6 weeks cycle!!?
I don't use orals! I can't use long ester. NPP is bad for recovery...
Tren it's quite bad for the body...

Leave me with Test p and Mast P only.
I'm quite depressed about it :(
 
Sampei said:
but look at tren... it's a fucking veterinary steroids use for cattle! It suppress immune system, it fucks with your stomach hard, it fucks with kidneys ?, and shit load of sides in general.
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Now how about citing evidence based literature supporting these adverse effects !

I ask bc the side effects of Tren like any other AAS are dose related, which is CONTRARY to the belief MORE IS BETTER, NOT!

Oh and obviously you are not aware, AAS are used to treat some patients with kidney disease!

It also would be helpful if you would clarify the meaning of "then there is the metabolite thing with Deca"

It's confusing as stated bc Deca is the TRADE NAME for NANDROLONE DECONATE while NPP (Nandrolone phenyl propionate) is not available commercially yet BOTH form the same "active metabolites"
 
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Dr JIM said:
Bc Deca Is released SLOWLY from fatty tissue (where it is "stored" over time) the attached ester doesn't seem to make much of a difference really.

Thus if you want to recover from Nandrolone the key is to use a "low dosage" like no more than 100mg/week, a short cycle length (less than 4 weeks) AND run Nandrolone first in the cycle.

Bc Nandrolone is WELL documented to linger for up to a YEAR in some users, I suggest those over the age of 30 and those concerned about their virility in the near future, avoid this AAS altogether.
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You have any data showing what metabolites stay and their effect on shutdown? Not challenging, just curious if you had something. I have seen in the past but didn't save the article.
 
Dr JIM said:
Now how about citing evidence based literature supporting these adverse effects !

I ask bc the side effects of Tren like any other AAS are dose related, which is CONTRARY to the belief MORE IS BETTER, NOT!

Oh and obviously you are not aware, AAS are used to treat some patients with kidney disease!

It also would be helpful if you would clarify the meaning of "then there is the metabolite thing with Deca"

It's confusing as stated bc Deca is the TRADE NAME for NANDROLONE DECONATE while NPP (Nandrolone phenyl propionate) is not available commercially yet BOTH form the same "active metabolites"
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Dear Jim, It's a bit hard for me to prove with literature the adverse effects of TREN. It's not for humans use, but for cattle.
I have read on lots of forum anedoctal experience of users of Tren. Most of ppl reports lots of side effect, even at doses of 300mg/wk.

I know you can use AAS to treat many disease, kidney one as well, but surely it's not TREN the one used.

When I says: "then there is the metabolite thing with Deca" I mean with nandrolone, I'm sorry If I didn't state it clearly. the ester attached to nandrolone it's not important, metabolities will be there with any ester used.
 
Sampei said:
Dear Jim, It's a bit hard for me to prove with literature the adverse effects of TREN. It's not for humans use, but for cattle.
I have read on lots of forum anedoctal experience of users of Tren. Most of ppl reports lots of side effect, even at doses of 300mg/wk.

I know you can use AAS to treat many disease, kidney one as well, but surely it's not TREN the one used.

When I says: "then there is the metabolite thing with Deca" I mean with nandrolone, I'm sorry If I didn't state it clearly. the ester attached to nandrolone it's not important, metabolities will be there with any ester used.
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Well Tren does not result in Renal or GI issues with cattle either.

Citing anecdotal reports as evidence is what most would rightfully call "bro science" and that's how it should be.

Hey I've "heard reports" of parachutists jumping out of airplanes at 20k wo their chute opening and surviving too.

It just seems telling, witnesses rather than the "survivor" report the events of "that day".
 
Dr JIM said:
Bc Deca Is released SLOWLY from fatty tissue (where it is "stored" over time) the attached ester doesn't seem to make much of a difference really.

Thus if you want to recover from Nandrolone the key is to use a "low dosage" like no more than 100mg/week, a short cycle length (less than 4 weeks) AND run Nandrolone first in the cycle.

Bc Nandrolone is WELL documented to linger for up to a YEAR in some users, I suggest those over the age of 30 and those concerned about their virility in the near future, avoid this AAS altogether.
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Well damn. Npp is my fav and have run it in last 5 cycles. Are you saying that im shooting blanks? Is it any less then the affects of tren on the body?
 
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