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fuck this stuff. always fucks w my nips plus the whole dihydronandrolone issue

i think now ill stick to high test anadrol maybe sdrol still

deca really doesnt make a huge difference when running anadrol at 100-150mg

do you feel you need deca to get/stay massive? im thinking its not a huge difference adding deca to cycle if test is 750-1g with adrol
 
Well if the other doses are that high you probably need deca at 600-800mg to make a significant difference. I like the drug but everyone is different and people's bodies change over time too.
 
To each their own. Deca is great for some and bad for others. I personally hate anything that fucks with my nips! Maybe Primo would be a good choice, I love Primo!
 
Currently running NPP at 600 and test P at 600 a week. I’m 7 weeks in and haven’t experienced in negative side’s but feel like running test at 750-800 a week would yield the same results with less wet gain’s.
I’ve been running test only cycles for the last 2yrs and aside from tren haven’t felt like adding compounds does much more for me.(I haven’t ran any orals so I can’t say much there) I will say I feel extremely hungry vs test alone gonna go another 2-3 weeks and see where I’m at. Hoping adding Winny for the first time at the end here will dry me out.
I do think after running tren though not many other compounds if any will ever give you that kinda strength and lean solid gains, I don’t see myself running it again any time soon though I felt like a wild horny uncontrollable savage on that stuff.
 
ya ill only go near tren every few years these days, kinda hard to control myself on it, i look worn out and just not worth it, the confidence it gives me is on another level and i feel like the world owes me something so i can easily get into trouble on it. but one thinng i love, it never fails to give that freaky look. 3 weeks and ppl just look at u like wtf did u take? vascular blown up shoulders and defined unfortunately it aint the best for mass
test drol gives me a more blown up look. i love drol. id fill half my home with it if i could
 
It's just a matter of how you respond to 19-nors. The only downside of not using a deca/tren/nandrolone is in missing that pathway. But unless you are getting paid to step on stage.....
 
fuck this stuff. always fucks w my nips plus the whole dihydronandrolone issue

i think now ill stick to high test anadrol maybe sdrol still

deca really doesnt make a huge difference when running anadrol at 100-150mg

do you feel you need deca to get/stay massive? im thinking its not a huge difference adding deca to cycle if test is 750-1g with adrol
In all the years I’ve been here on Meso I think you are the only person then keeps mentioning DHN nandrolone. It has seems to never have been an issue for mostly all people since the creation of nandrolone, kinda odd. Also TEst aromatizes more then Deca. My gyno lump is slightly irritated right now but it’s from the 600mg of TEST that I’m on not the 600mg of Deca. I’ve used low test with close to a gram of npp with no issues at all. IMO High test is unhealthy and full of side effects especially cardiovascular ones.
 
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In all the years I’ve been here on Meso I think you are the only person then keeps mentioning DHN nandrolone. It has seems to never have been an issue for mostly all people since the creation of nandrolone, kinda odd. Also TEst aromatizes more then Deca. My gyno lump is slightly irritated right now but it’s from the 600mg of TEST that I’m on not the 600mg of Deca. I’ve used low test with close to a gram of npp with no issues at all. IMO High test is unhealthy and full of sided effects especially cardiovascular ones.

You run Deca 1:1 vs test with no sexual side effects?

I’m on about 300 a week but 600 test. I feel great on deca if the test is much higher.
Strength gains are significant, but it does make me bloated so it’s a wintertime thing for me.
 
You run Deca 1:1 vs test with no sexual side effects?

I’m on about 300 a week but 600 test. I feel great on deca if the test is much higher.
Strength gains are significant, but it does make me bloated so it’s a wintertime thing for me.

I used to be able to run deca alone with no sexual sides. Now it's 1:1 required though higher test than that is fine.

Deca is a staple for me. Dose fluctuates but it's nearly always present in blasts. This summer will the the first without it in a while though any joint discomfort - running winny some also - I'll throw in 150-200mg a week but I expect I'll be fine.
 
You run Deca 1:1 vs test with no sexual side effects?

I’m on about 300 a week but 600 test. I feel great on deca if the test is much higher.
Strength gains are significant, but it does make me bloated so it’s a wintertime thing for me.
I feel amazing!! Zero sexual side effects!
I’m also running 300mg Tren E and 600mg Mast E! I have had issued with the tren E but I’ve finally adjusted.
 
I feel amazing!! Zero sexual side effects!
I’m also running 300mg Tren E and 600mg Mast E! I have had issued with the tren E but I’ve finally adjusted.

“I feel amazing!!”
I bet dude that’s a delicious amount of gear to be running. Enjoy
 
ya ill only go near tren every few years these days, kinda hard to control myself on it, i look worn out and just not worth it, the confidence it gives me is on another level and i feel like the world owes me something so i can easily get into trouble on it. but one thinng i love, it never fails to give that freaky look. 3 weeks and ppl just look at u like wtf did u take? vascular blown up shoulders and defined unfortunately it aint the best for mass
test drol gives me a more blown up look. i love drol. id fill half my home with it if i could
Yea on Tren I pretty much have everyone asking me if I’m on steroids or what am I on.
 
Currently running NPP at 600 and test P at 600 a week. I’m 7 weeks in and haven’t experienced in negative side’s but feel like running test at 750-800 a week would yield the same results with less wet gain’s.
I’ve been running test only cycles for the last 2yrs and aside from tren haven’t felt like adding compounds does much more for me.(I haven’t ran any orals so I can’t say much there) I will say I feel extremely hungry vs test alone gonna go another 2-3 weeks and see where I’m at. Hoping adding Winny for the first time at the end here will dry me out.
I do think after running tren though not many other compounds if any will ever give you that kinda strength and lean solid gains, I don’t see myself running it again any time soon though I felt like a wild horny uncontrollable savage on that stuff.
That's a let down, 600 test and 600 npp yielding the Same results as 800 test pff.

Havent ran nandrolone but that must be dissapointing. Is it legit 600mg npp you think?

I've seen people being very happy with the size gains of nandrolone so this goes a bit against the grain.
 
That's a let down, 600 test and 600 npp yielding the Same results as 800 test pff.

Havent ran nandrolone but that must be dissapointing. Is it legit 600mg npp you think?

I've seen people being very happy with the size gains of nandrolone so this goes a bit against the grain.
The NPP is definitely legit and I have put on size. I’m on week 7 so will see.I’ve just went from running test only cycles the last few years and to be honest I don’t feel like size is anything like I was expecting but my training and diet could also be tweeked to play with the variables there. Just my experience with it thus far. Gonna throw winny or anavar in next month to help shed some of the water wieght and see where i’m Sitting.
 
Deca is amazing can run very high dosages without sides.
But test gives more size more real size. Deca is for guys who cant run high dosages of testosterone.

Test on a test and deca cycle must be only on dosage that you can tolerate and to support the anabolic deca.
Let's say you can handle test at 500mg without much aniclinaries if you can handle

Test at 500 mg then you dose deca 750-1000mg+ to grow.

Either testosterone and deca can be run as a standalone
 
Deca is amazing can run very high dosages without sides.
But test gives more size more real size. Deca is for guys who cant run high dosages of testosterone.

Test on a test and deca cycle must be only on dosage that you can tolerate and to support the anabolic deca.
Let's say you can handle test at 500mg without much aniclinaries if you can handle

Test at 500 mg then you dose deca 750-1000mg+ to grow.

Either testosterone and deca can be run as a standalone

Your pretty on the spot! Some guys run 200mg test and 700-900 Deca and have great results. Others run 750 test and 300 Deca and have great results. We are all so different. It took me 20 years of self experimentation to find my dose and what works. It evolved and changed a lot over time. Now it’s all about my supplementation, nutrient timing, and training variation.
 
I’m one of those who love deca.
I can run 600 mg deca and only 200 mg test, have no visible sides (slight drop in hdl, slight increase in ldl), but no acne, gyno, hair loss, greasy red-purple look that some get, etc. as side effect free as you can get... run long enough, decent mass builder.

I think the whole you need 2x more test than deca is dogmatic.
 
I’m one of those who love deca.
I can run 600 mg deca and only 200 mg test, have no visible sides (slight drop in hdl, slight increase in ldl), but no acne, gyno, hair loss, greasy red-purple look that some get, etc. as side effect free as you can get... run long enough, decent mass builder.

I think the whole you need 2x more test than deca is dogmatic.

Dude this is what I have been needing it hear.

At test E 500 mg per week I have to take 1 mg of arimidex EOD just about to stay in low normal range of estrogen. I hold a lot of water on test. It gives me a lot of side effects.

Been considering test E 200 mg and deca 600-900 mg per week. Going to give it a go soon!

Always ran test E at 500 mg each cycle and went higher a few times (terrible sides). That was just the norm from what I read. High test doesn’t work for me.
 
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