Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

[AllGoodThings]

You got me intrigued.
Give me a week or two, I'll inject 120mg and draw labs.

I'm really curious about this too. On paper, it should aromatize quite a bit, but seeing it proven with testing would be nice. Like I said, I've not seen noticeable estrogenic sides with even frequent and (relatively) high doses. Looking forward to your results.

 

[onlyontrt]

All new vendors have been getting burnt lately. I want to give a shot but last one I did found plastic in the oils

 

[gobig2]

All new vendors have been getting burnt lately. I want to give a shot but last one I did found plastic in the oils

D not new brother.

 

[Dial It In]

All new vendors have been getting burnt lately. I want to give a shot but last one I did found plastic in the oils

D has been around a long time. You can also see unlike another popular source that loses raws, finds them and then it comes out it was Chinese oil at a significant markup. Defiant actually test oils and raws before giving members access. Hardware is great also. It is upgraded. He’s new to Meso but not the business

 

[Methyl Mike]

You got me intrigued.
Give me a week or two, I'll inject 120mg and draw labs.

To be fair I'm not sure exactly how to determine what you are trying to measure. If you want to get a realistic idea, you first need a baseline and from there pin 100mgs suspension (TNE same thing, I think) for a week straight and then pull labs and see if E2 has spiked.

I'm still not totally sold on what this tells us, variables genetics etc. but I can tell you test suspension should aromatize (mg for mg) more than esterfied test.

One more variable, is TNE the same as suspension? I don't recall hearing about it until recently. Test suspension is testosterone crystals in aqueus suspension. You have to shake it up before you pin it. Test without ester. Is TNE the same? I assume so?

On topic, propionate is considered to aromatize less than cyp or en and I don't think anyone gave a good reason why. I assumed it was simply lower total mg being absorbed combined with low body fat (prop usually used during prep) but again I really can't say to a certainty. Makes for interesting discussion.