Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

[chyde14]

LMAO. Love a dark sense of humor. Speaking my language.

You're not kidding man. And thank God these flurotec stoppers are badass because I'm piercing my vial 7 times a week and you can't even tell I've stuck a needle in it.

Ok, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying brother. I was a little worried, as I haven't had a single instance of someone reporting PIP with that.

I do plan on offering some injectable orals here soon, anadrol included. Possibly Superdrol as well.

+1 for Injectable Superdrol!

 

[Bwhistle]

LMAO. Love a dark sense of humor. Speaking my language.

You're not kidding man. And thank God these flurotec stoppers are badass because I'm piercing my vial 7 times a week and you can't even tell I've stuck a needle in it.

Ok, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying brother. I was a little worried, as I haven't had a single instance of someone reporting PIP with that.

I do plan on offering some injectable orals here soon, anadrol included. Possibly Superdrol as well.

The stoppers are a gem. You have to like post the vials up against your chest to stab through them . No joke

 

[Defiant Pharma]

The stoppers are a gem. You have to like post the vials up against your chest to stab through them . No joke

For real man. I thought a 25g 1in was going to bend in half the other day. It's crazy how tough they are.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

 

[RockyP]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

No monopoly lasts forever. I'm not familiar with Analiza but I'd be open to any other testing vendor assuming they have a track record of integrity, not being paid off for results, not concocting bogus results when they're busy, etc.

 

[DraxTheDestroyer]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

I like Analiza.. they’re slow as hell, but they get the job done.

 

[Veinyone]

Only BA and BB brother. I won't use any other solvents.

Also, oils will start being made with only Mig812 here shortly. Just using up the rest of this regular MCT I have first, which is only about a gallon left.

Dude, thank you…. Mig812 pins like water and I’m a huge fan of using the smallest needles possible. I’m used to getting the job done with less (ask my wife) and I try to apply this concept to every aspect of my life lol.

 

[RockyP]

Dude, thank you…. Mig812 pins like water and I’m a huge fan of using the smallest needles possible. I’m used to getting the job done with less (ask my wife) and I try to apply this concept to every aspect of my life lol.

812 is only slightly thinner than regular MCT AFAIK. 840 is the super thin one that is like water, though more than a few people can’t tolerate it. However 812 is a fantastic upgrade.

 

[Veinyone]

812 is only slightly thinner than regular MCT AFAIK. 840 is the super thin one that is like water, though more than a few people can’t tolerate it. However 812 is a fantastic upgrade.

The thinner the better! I heat mine up first and use a 1 inch 30g needle. I wouldn’t think any thinner than 812 would be necessary. I have never used 840, but I have heard that about it causing issues for some.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

Based entirely off of what I've read others saying (and I can't even remember exactly what was said), I'm not entirely confident in Analiza Białek as a provider of reliable testing. Who knows, everything I've read could be off, and they might be great. I'm curious to see if there are any verifiable inaccurate results from them.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

A few days wait for Jano imo is not an issue. Seems to be the gold standard when it comes to testing.

There is another board (quite a few will know which I’m speaking of) that has made a new rule that absolutely zero testing is to be posted by members and sponsors because they can’t be trusted and could be on someone’s payroll to trash another sponsor, send a great test on purpose, etc. and would be banned if so. Said if there is a lab they would trust, it would be AB as they don’t have skin in the game. I think that’s a crock of shit tbh.

Stick to Jano, posts the tests, and let the customer blind tests match.
Could also send the same batch to both labs and see how close both results are?

 

[RockyP]

A few days wait for Jano imo is not an issue. Seems to be the gold standard when it comes to testing.

There is another board (quite a few will know which I’m speaking of) that has made a new rule that absolutely zero testing is to be posted by members and sponsors because they can’t be trusted and could be on someone’s payroll to trash another sponsor, send a great test on purpose, etc. and would be banned if so. Said if there is a lab they would trust, it would be AB as they don’t have skin in the game. I think that’s a crock of shit tbh.

Stick to Jano, posts the tests, and let the customer blind tests match.
Could also send the same batch to both labs and see how close both results are?

LOL no testing allowed. Like the honor system instead of metal detectors at the airport. Sounds amazing.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

I'm taking what everyone says into consideration 100%.

What I will say is that Jano is not infallible. I've had a few tests come back questionable/weird in the past and then upon retesting come back as it should. I can go into greater detail on this later. This was somewhat recent too, not years ago.

I just think we shouldn't put all of our eggs into one basket so to speak and convince ourselves he's the ultimate authority but, we don't have a ton of options.

I saw that on the other board. Pretty crazy policy if you ask me and I don't agree with it at all.

regards,

D.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

LOL no testing allowed. Like the honor system instead of metal detectors at the airport. Sounds amazing.

Yeah, it’s an absolute shit show. Sponsors having bad reports deleted, questions about testing their product deleted. Suspect as hell.

 

[Veinyone]

There was a recent issue with pharmacom labs products coming back under dosed with blind testing. (Not surprised) They were adamant that blind testing didn’t prove anything, and that it must be one of their labeled vials sent to jano for proof. It made me wonder if they pay him off to write up good results. Not gonna lie.

 

[maddie]

I'm taking what everyone says into consideration 100%.

What I will say is that Jano is not infallible. I've had a few tests come back questionable/weird in the past and then upon retesting come back as it should. I can go into greater detail on this later. This was somewhat recent too, not years ago.

I just think we shouldn't put all of our eggs into one basket so to speak and convince ourselves he's the ultimate authority but, we don't have a ton of options.

I saw that on the other board. Pretty crazy policy if you ask me and I don't agree with it at all.

regards,

D.

I would be super interested in having the same exact sample sent to both and see what they come up with. Will this help your delay right now.... no, but it might be nice to see how close they are. Maybe there's a better way to compare. Im sure having more than one reliable testing source would be valuable to the community.

 

[Infernalmango]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

If I were to consider analiza, I would first send a few samples from the same batch to both them and jano to see if there’s a general variance. After a few tests from both, if they seem very similar, I would feel much more comfortable using ab from time to time.

 

[FatDan]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

Have you looked into these guys at all?

Biolab Services | MZ Biolabs

www.mzbiolabs.com

 

[Photon]

Have you looked into these guys at all?

Biolab Services | MZ Biolabs

www.mzbiolabs.com

They are an audited DEA licensed firm..I would not use them as a US vendor for testing..controlled substances..

They do not accept crypto.

 

[Scooby69]

I'm taking what everyone says into consideration 100%.

What I will say is that Jano is not infallible. I've had a few tests come back questionable/weird in the past and then upon retesting come back as it should. I can go into greater detail on this later. This was somewhat recent too, not years ago.

I just think we shouldn't put all of our eggs into one basket so to speak and convince ourselves he's the ultimate authority but, we don't have a ton of options.

I saw that on the other board. Pretty crazy policy if you ask me and I don't agree with it at all.

regards,

D.

There is a similar discussion going on in another thread here. It would be nice to have more than one analytical lab. There are potential problems with a monopoly of that sort.

I agree that a good first step would be to see side by side comparisons of the same samples. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to give the exact same results, but likely within a 10% variance. While we like to see on the dot dosing in the products, I think the most important outcome of testing is making sure the products aren't bunk, the wrong product, or grossly under dosed.

Are there any opsec concerns with Analiza? I don't know of any, just asking.