Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

[Coffezilla]

A few days wait for Jano imo is not an issue. Seems to be the gold standard when it comes to testing.

There is another board (quite a few will know which I’m speaking of) that has made a new rule that absolutely zero testing is to be posted by members and sponsors because they can’t be trusted and could be on someone’s payroll to trash another sponsor, send a great test on purpose, etc. and would be banned if so. Said if there is a lab they would trust, it would be AB as they don’t have skin in the game. I think that’s a crock of shit tbh.

Stick to Jano, posts the tests, and let the customer blind tests match.
Could also send the same batch to both labs and see how close both results are?

yea, makes sense why all the gear you get from said board give you more pip then anything you could brew yourself. Once i read that i have removed myself from that board. The fact that one person gets to decide wether the gear is good or not is wild imo. But theyre all old heads and theyll pin anything

 

[AASHGH]

They are an audited DEA licensed firm..I would not use them as a US vendor for testing..controlled substances..

They do not accept crypto.

Well that sucks

 

[AllGoodThings]

They are an audited DEA licensed firm..I would not use them as a US vendor for testing..controlled substances..

They do not accept crypto.

Two big reasons to stay farrr away from them!

 

[Earthworm Jim]

There was a recent issue with pharmacom labs products coming back under dosed with blind testing. (Not surprised) They were adamant that blind testing didn’t prove anything, and that it must be one of their labeled vials sent to jano for proof. It made me wonder if they pay him off to write up good results. Not gonna lie.

He addressed that accusation head on in his interview

 

[FatDan]

They are an audited DEA licensed firm..I would not use them as a US vendor for testing..controlled substances..

They do not accept crypto.

Thank you for that

 

[gobig2]

@Defiant Pharma Here is a quote from Jano last night on another sources thread, he is def real busy

My friend, we will reply to emails, don't worry.

However, please, mind it is difficult for us to respond and deal with issues, when normal procedures are not followed and many email chains are started at once.

We are now at 2000 emails a day, it is not possible for us to reply all emails immediately.

Thank you for understanding.

 

[RockyP]

@Defiant Pharma sorry to be a pest brother but any more word on the Seros?

 

[ikemay]

It made me wonder if they pay him off to write up good results.

jano would be shooting himself in the foot on this one so i doubt he'd intentionally skew results for a payoff, just think of how high that payoff would have to be in order to justify the risk of losing the credibility that is the sole reason people trust jano results in the first place. with the prices he charges and the amount of tests he's paid to do the potential loss of income would be massive if credibility was lost. also what source is going to pay what i would think would be a rather large sum of money just to get a good result, it would be much cheaper to just not make shit gear in the first place. that said, nobody is infallible and jano has made mistakes and owned them in the past.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza?

i'd say stick to jano because its where the most trust is established in the eyes of the majority, or both for curiosity to see how far they differ in results.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

jano would be shooting himself in the foot on this one so i doubt he'd intentionally skew results for a payoff, just think of how high that payoff would have to be in order to justify the risk of losing the credibility that is the sole reason people trust jano results in the first place. with the prices he charges and the amount of tests he's paid to do the potential loss of income would be massive if credibility was lost. also what source is going to pay what i would think would be a rather large sum of money just to get a good result, it would be much cheaper to just not make shit gear in the first place. that said, nobody is infallible and jano has made mistakes and owned them in the past.



i'd say stick to jano because its where the most trust is established in the eyes of the majority, or both for curiosity to see how far they differ in results.

Yeah, I definitely don't think he is taking or has taken payoffs of any kind. Like you said, why risk your credibility over that when you're making a killing. I just want to clarify I'm not knocking Jano at all, but everyone makes mistakes. It's how you handle them that sets you apart. I'm not going to not use him, was just curious if other options would be accepted by you all the customers, which is the most important IMO.

With that said, he finally got back to me. They must be super backed up and busy as hell.

But, I can get these samples out now. Thank you all for your input. Greatly appreciated.

regards,

D.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

6 EQ500 left now. Someone never came thru with payment.

Also, still quite a few TRE200 and ND300 left and sale prices still apply.

thanks,

D.

 

[Veinyone]

Yeah, I definitely don't think he is taking or has taken payoffs of any kind. Like you said, why risk your credibility over that when you're making a killing. I just want to clarify I'm not knocking Jano at all, but everyone makes mistakes. It's how you handle them that sets you apart. I'm not going to not use him, was just curious if other options would be accepted by you all the customers, which is the most important IMO.

With that said, he finally got back to me. They must be super backed up and busy as hell.

But, I can get these samples out now. Thank you all for your input. Greatly appreciated.

regards,

D.

This does actually make sense. Sorry guys, I’m going to have to drop deca because I’m paranoid af on this cycle. Thanks to both of you for talking some sense into my currently fried brain. It’s not going well for me that’s for sure lol