Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

A few days wait for Jano imo is not an issue. Seems to be the gold standard when it comes to testing.

There is another board (quite a few will know which I’m speaking of) that has made a new rule that absolutely zero testing is to be posted by members and sponsors because they can’t be trusted and could be on someone’s payroll to trash another sponsor, send a great test on purpose, etc. and would be banned if so. Said if there is a lab they would trust, it would be AB as they don’t have skin in the game. I think that’s a crock of shit tbh.

Stick to Jano, posts the tests, and let the customer blind tests match.
Could also send the same batch to both labs and see how close both results are?
yea, makes sense why all the gear you get from said board give you more pip then anything you could brew yourself. Once i read that i have removed myself from that board. The fact that one person gets to decide wether the gear is good or not is wild imo. But theyre all old heads and theyll pin anything
 
There was a recent issue with pharmacom labs products coming back under dosed with blind testing. (Not surprised) They were adamant that blind testing didn’t prove anything, and that it must be one of their labeled vials sent to jano for proof. It made me wonder if they pay him off to write up good results. Not gonna lie.
He addressed that accusation head on in his interview
 
@Defiant Pharma Here is a quote from Jano last night on another sources thread, he is def real busy

My friend, we will reply to emails, don't worry.

However, please, mind it is difficult for us to respond and deal with issues, when normal procedures are not followed and many email chains are started at once.

We are now at 2000 emails a day, it is not possible for us to reply all emails immediately.

Thank you for understanding.
 
It made me wonder if they pay him off to write up good results.
jano would be shooting himself in the foot on this one so i doubt he'd intentionally skew results for a payoff, just think of how high that payoff would have to be in order to justify the risk of losing the credibility that is the sole reason people trust jano results in the first place. with the prices he charges and the amount of tests he's paid to do the potential loss of income would be massive if credibility was lost. also what source is going to pay what i would think would be a rather large sum of money just to get a good result, it would be much cheaper to just not make shit gear in the first place. that said, nobody is infallible and jano has made mistakes and owned them in the past.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza?

i'd say stick to jano because its where the most trust is established in the eyes of the majority, or both for curiosity to see how far they differ in results.
 
jano would be shooting himself in the foot on this one so i doubt he'd intentionally skew results for a payoff, just think of how high that payoff would have to be in order to justify the risk of losing the credibility that is the sole reason people trust jano results in the first place. with the prices he charges and the amount of tests he's paid to do the potential loss of income would be massive if credibility was lost. also what source is going to pay what i would think would be a rather large sum of money just to get a good result, it would be much cheaper to just not make shit gear in the first place. that said, nobody is infallible and jano has made mistakes and owned them in the past.



i'd say stick to jano because its where the most trust is established in the eyes of the majority, or both for curiosity to see how far they differ in results.
Yeah, I definitely don't think he is taking or has taken payoffs of any kind. Like you said, why risk your credibility over that when you're making a killing. I just want to clarify I'm not knocking Jano at all, but everyone makes mistakes. It's how you handle them that sets you apart. I'm not going to not use him, was just curious if other options would be accepted by you all the customers, which is the most important IMO.

With that said, he finally got back to me. They must be super backed up and busy as hell.

But, I can get these samples out now. Thank you all for your input. Greatly appreciated.

regards,

D.
 
Yeah, I definitely don't think he is taking or has taken payoffs of any kind. Like you said, why risk your credibility over that when you're making a killing. I just want to clarify I'm not knocking Jano at all, but everyone makes mistakes. It's how you handle them that sets you apart. I'm not going to not use him, was just curious if other options would be accepted by you all the customers, which is the most important IMO.

With that said, he finally got back to me. They must be super backed up and busy as hell.

But, I can get these samples out now. Thank you all for your input. Greatly appreciated.

regards,

D.
This does actually make sense. Sorry guys, I’m going to have to drop deca because I’m paranoid af on this cycle. Thanks to both of you for talking some sense into my currently fried brain. It’s not going well for me that’s for sure lol
 
EQ500 is all sold out now fellas!

Like I mentioned before it's going to be a bit before we restock this item because the rest of our raws were used up in this latest 300mg/ml batch that just went out for testing.

The list is dwindling I know but we're working on getting things stocked up as quick as possible. Just waiting on test results so we can get back to work.

Hope everyone has a great weekend. Take care.

D.
 
EQ500 is all sold out now fellas!

Like I mentioned before it's going to be a bit before we restock this item because the rest of our raws were used up in this latest 300mg/ml batch that just went out for testing.

The list is dwindling I know but we're working on getting things stocked up as quick as possible. Just waiting on test results so we can get back to work.

Hope everyone has a great weekend. Take care.

D.
Talk about good timing!!. Thanks again boss!!
 
For anyone wondering. The EQ500 is completely pipless. The only downside for me was that I had to use a 25g needle instead of my typical 30g. Eq is definitely thicker than I’m used to, but I dont have anything to guage this stuff off of as this is the first time I’ve ever used it.
 
Heat and 29g is doable
I always heat oils with a mug warmer. However, I draw with a 25g to do less damage to the stoppers. I immediately noticed the difference when drawing and thought “i don’t want to pin for 5 minutes” lol. I just swapped out the needle with a new 25g and popped it in my ventro.
 
I always heat oils with a mug warmer. However, I draw with a 25g to do less damage to the stoppers. I immediately noticed the difference when drawing and thought “i don’t want to pin for 5 minutes” lol. I just swapped out the needle with a new 25g and popped it in my ventro.
Personally I think damage done from a larger needle can be mitigated by the fact that you're hands aren't shaking trying to push oil through some tiny gauge. A lot of these guys are talking small doses daily or just small doses period. I'm not trying to push 3cc through a 27g God forbid a 28-30. Personally I prefer a 23 over a 25 for a 3cc barrel. 1cc barrel I'm fine with 25g.

My low dose tren ace I got no problem using a 27g slin pin but I found some longer 5/8 inch easy touch for that to get a little deeper
 
Personally I think damage done from a larger needle can be mitigated by the fact that you're hands aren't shaking trying to push oil through some tiny gauge. A lot of these guys are talking small doses daily or just small doses period. I'm not trying to push 3cc through a 27g God forbid a 28-30. Personally I prefer a 23 over a 25 for a 3cc barrel. 1cc barrel I'm fine with 25g.

My low dose tren ace I got no problem using a 27g slin pin but I found some longer 5/8 inch easy touch for that to get a little deeper
I was actually referring to damaging the stopper in that post, not my leg, After using that 25g, I think I agree with you though. The amount of pressure that is sometimes required to push oil through a 30 gauge, has me damn near bending the plunger to get it in. I only ever inject 1cc at a time so I really don’t need anything bigger than 25g. I may switch to 27 for a happy medium.

As far as the stopper. If I use bigger needles to draw with, I notice rubber floaties in my vials by the time I’ve used half of the vial or more. This may not be a problem with flurotec stoppers though.
 
I was actually referring to damaging the stopper in that post, not my leg, After using that 25g, I think I agree with you though. The amount of pressure that is sometimes required to push oil through a 30 gauge, has me damn near bending the plunger to get it in. I only ever inject 1cc at a time so I really don’t need anything bigger than 25g. I may switch to 27 for a happy medium.

As far as the stopper. If I use bigger needles to draw with, I notice rubber floaties in my vials by the time I’ve used half of the vial or more. This may not be a problem with flurotec stoppers though.
With these smaller gauge needles like 27g and smaller, you need to use a 1cc/ml syringe, not a 3cc. There's a big difference in psi. You'll find when using a 1cc with the smaller needles it flows just as easy as say a 23g with a 3cc syringe.
 
With these smaller gauge needles like 27g and smaller, you need to use a 1cc/ml syringe, not a 3cc. There's a big difference in psi. You'll find when using a 1cc with the smaller needles it flows just as easy as say a 23g with a 3cc syringe.
Why I love the Higher concentration gear. Always trying to get as much oil as I can into the 1 cc syringe instead of going with the 3. For something like primo or mast I’ll pin it daily and use 1cc barrels instead of doing eod with a 3. A 27G on a 1cc with a little warming of the oil is not a chore at all.
 
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