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[Defiant Pharma]

Why I love the Higher concentration gear. Always trying to get as much oil as I can into the 1 cc syringe instead of going with the 3. For something like primo or mast I’ll pin it daily and use 1cc barrels instead of doing eod with a 3. A 27G on a 1cc with a little warming of the oil is not a chore at all.

Exactly. I'd much rather pin ED with my 29g 1/2in slin pins than ever have to use a 23g or 25g again. I just rotate between tris, bis, mid and rear delts, pecs, and even quads. I still heat the oils up a bit with my coffee mug warmer and they flow like water.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

For anyone wondering. The EQ500 is completely pipless. The only downside for me was that I had to use a 25g needle instead of my typical 30g. Eq is definitely thicker than I’m used to, but I dont have anything to guage this stuff off of as this is the first time I’ve ever used it.

Next time I think I'm going to use 25%BB instead of 22% to thin the EQ500 out a tad bit more. Heating it up on the coffee mug warmer helps a lot though. Probably my favorite purchase of 2025 thanks to my man @AllGoodThings

 

[ETliens]

Personally I think damage done from a larger needle can be mitigated by the fact that you're hands aren't shaking trying to push oil through some tiny gauge. A lot of these guys are talking small doses daily or just small doses period. I'm not trying to push 3cc through a 27g God forbid a 28-30. Personally I prefer a 23 over a 25 for a 3cc barrel. 1cc barrel I'm fine with 25g.

My low dose tren ace I got no problem using a 27g slin pin but I found some longer 5/8 inch easy touch for that to get a little deeper

Not to mention that the speed that oil is coming out of that small needle. While not significant, that must cause some damage. I’ve used a 27g with a 1cc but you’re totally right, I can’t imagine pushing oil out of a 27g 3cc. 25g isn’t even “easy”.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Exactly. I'd much rather pin ED with my 29g 1/2in slin pins than ever have to use a 23g or 25g again. I just rotate between tris, bis, mid and rear delts, pecs, and even quads. I still heat the oils up a bit with my coffee mug warmer and they flow like water.

I've always wondered about pinning in the biceps with an insulin needle.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

I've always wondered about pinning in the biceps with an insulin needle.

I do it all the time. One of my favorite spots truthfully along with tris.

 

[Inkniron87]

I do it all the time. One of my favorite spots truthfully along with tris.

Care to share where you pin the bicep at and length insulin needle man

 

[Veinyone]

Next time I think I'm going to use 25%BB instead of 22% to thin the EQ500 out a tad bit more. Heating it up on the coffee mug warmer helps a lot though. Probably my favorite purchase of 2025 thanks to my man @AllGoodThings

You could honestly get away with more because this is the smoothest thing I’ve ever injected. I couldn’t believe how painless it was. No burn at all. I’ve had some spicy deca and primo from other sources. I don’t really get pip after, it’s just the initial burn for me that I notice.

I’d love to use 1/2 inch insulin syringes to pin with, but I’ve had two bad experiences in my delt doing that. Everything was going awesome and then bam!!! It leaked subq. My right delt was on fire and twice as big as the other one. It was super red and hot to the touch and I thought I had an infection. I found 1 inch 30 gauge luer lock needles and besides going deeper it feels about the same as the 1/2 inch. I know they make 27g in 1 inch as well.

 

[Photon]

You could honestly get away with more because this is the smoothest thing I’ve ever injected. I couldn’t believe how painless it was. No burn at all. I’ve had some spicy deca and primo from other sources. I don’t really get pip after, it’s just the initial burn for me that I notice.

I’d love to use 1/2 inch insulin syringes to pin with, but I’ve had two bad experiences in my delt doing that. Everything was going awesome and then bam!!! It leaked subq. My right delt was on fire and twice as big as the other one. It was super red and hot to the touch and I thought I had an infection. I found 1 inch 30 gauge luer lock needles and besides going deeper it feels about the same as the 1/2 inch. I know they make 27g in 1 inch as well.

Not all needles are equal, try to find thin walled ones. The excel 30g 1 in are regular walls. A nipro 30g 1/2 thin walled flows like a 28g regular wall.

If a subq leak results in a burn like that, there's probably something wrong with that brew..

 

[Veinyone]

Not all needles are equal, try to find thin walled ones. The excel 30g 1 in are regular walls. A nipro 30g 1/2 thin walled flows like a 28g regular wall.

If a subq leak results in a burn like that, there's probably something wrong with that brew..

Thanks for the info. I’m hearing a lot of good things about nipro. I currently use bd precision glide needles. I’ll have to look at what wall thickness they are. The product that caused the issue was 250mg deca in GSO from Opti when he first introduced his own AAS line. That stuff burned every time I pinned it lol. I think his brewer still had some kinks to work out. I use his 400mg multi testosterone with no issues.

After using some of the smaller brewers like defiant and oep, I’m definitely shying away from the bigger players. The quality is amazing and the communication/support is top notch. Defiant will be getting most of my business on future purchases because he stays open regardless of inventory.

 

[Dial It In]

You could honestly get away with more because this is the smoothest thing I’ve ever injected. I couldn’t believe how painless it was. No burn at all. I’ve had some spicy deca and primo from other sources. I don’t really get pip after, it’s just the initial burn for me that I notice.

I’d love to use 1/2 inch insulin syringes to pin with, but I’ve had two bad experiences in my delt doing that. Everything was going awesome and then bam!!! It leaked subq. My right delt was on fire and twice as big as the other one. It was super red and hot to the touch and I thought I had an infection. I found 1 inch 30 gauge luer lock needles and besides going deeper it feels about the same as the 1/2 inch. I know they make 27g in 1 inch as well.

Like a bunch of threads that discuss pins and locations if you guys are interested. This is how source stuff gets buried and guys can’t find stuff. Just being helpful not trying to be a dick

 

[Ateam2023]

You could honestly get away with more because this is the smoothest thing I’ve ever injected. I couldn’t believe how painless it was. No burn at all. I’ve had some spicy deca and primo from other sources. I don’t really get pip after, it’s just the initial burn for me that I notice.

I’d love to use 1/2 inch insulin syringes to pin with, but I’ve had two bad experiences in my delt doing that. Everything was going awesome and then bam!!! It leaked subq. My right delt was on fire and twice as big as the other one. It was super red and hot to the touch and I thought I had an infection. I found 1 inch 30 gauge luer lock needles and besides going deeper it feels about the same as the 1/2 inch. I know they make 27g in 1 inch as well.

You're probably too much fat % to use a half inch honestly, ever thought of that? Not trying to be a dick , but stating the obvious

 

[Veinyone]

You're probably too much fat % to use a half inch honestly, ever thought of that? Not trying to be a dick , but stating the obvious

Like a bunch of threads that discuss pins and locations if you guys are interested. This is how source stuff gets buried and guys can’t find stuff. Just being helpful not trying to be a dick

You guys are both like “I’m not trying to be a dick, but fuck you!” LOL. I don’t get offended easily. You’re good. Im definitely sitting at a higher body fat than id like. Im aware this is part of the problem. Reta this spring should have me sitting at 10% or less. Sorry dial it in. I came to say the eq500 was smooth and painless but got side tracked with other conversations. I’ll try to keep it straight and narrow on the source threads. I do respect your opinion on these forums.

On a source related note. Shipping on this recent order I made was lightning fast. Couldn’t ask for better packaging. D does it right!

 

[thoryamaha919]

Just as an update, I’ve been using @Defiant Pharma SuperTest since the end of Oct and I’ve had zero issues with pip. I inject everyday so I’m not having to do large injections once a week. Definitely pleased with the SuperTest.

Missed out on the EQ500 but that’s just me dragging my feet but I have a kit of 300 I’ll be getting into in the meantime.

 

[The Answ3r]

Really liking the Test E so far, super smooth. Kinda mad at myself for not grabbing more. As soon as the next restock hits, I’ll definitely be back for round two. Appreciate the quality product.

 

[Avies48]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

I say the more testing the better… i got good people who have shown jano as lacking recently but thats just my opinion.02

 

[Photon]

Question for you guys and y'all are more than welcome to discuss it here in my thread if you feel like it.

How would you all feel about me sending in samples to Analiza? I'm still waiting on the other guy to get back to me and it's taking quite a while. I've also heard that it is taking forever to get test results back lately, so just wanted to see what you guys think.

regards,

D.

The more data points we have, the better.
But AB is not any quicker.

1-2 weeks maybe for results.
Mailbox handling for them is also much slower.

 

[Avies48]

I'm taking what everyone says into consideration 100%.

What I will say is that Jano is not infallible. I've had a few tests come back questionable/weird in the past and then upon retesting come back as it should. I can go into greater detail on this later. This was somewhat recent too, not years ago.

I just think we shouldn't put all of our eggs into one basket so to speak and convince ourselves he's the ultimate authority but, we don't have a ton of options.

I saw that on the other board. Pretty crazy policy if you ask me and I don't agree with it at all.

regards,

D.

Hell even Big A on pro m said no more testing allowed to be shown and posted… he sent a few to anz to test their stuff because jano sucksz yet every peptide seller and source says we will only take jano… yet jano is starting to show shit results…

 

[Avies48]

@Defiant Pharma sorry to be a pest brother but any more word on the Seros?

Does he have currently or need?

 

[Defiant Pharma]

Care to share where you pin the bicep at and length insulin needle man

Well you dont want to do it right in the middle if you're dissecting your bicep vertically. Go a little either to the left or right. I use a 29g 1/2 inch needle and do apply a little extra pressure when using 1/2 inch needles but, I very rarely have issues with the oil backing out and going sub q.

I use the same size needle for delts, pecs, tris and quads.

I meant to add that I do stay pretty lean year round these days so that does make a difference.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

Really liking the Test E so far, super smooth. Kinda mad at myself for not grabbing more. As soon as the next restock hits, I’ll definitely be back for round two. Appreciate the quality product.

Should have some more in stock soon. Just need to wait for raw test results from Jano that were sent off this past week.

I say the more testing the better… i got good people who have shown jano as lacking recently but thats just my opinion.02

The more data points we have, the better.
But AB is not any quicker.

1-2 weeks maybe for results.
Mailbox handling for them is also much slower.

I do plan on sending some samples off to AB as well in the coming weeks.