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I find taking the pre-workout, TNE, Sdrol, Adrol, work best 90 to 120 minutes before heavy lifting. What timing works the best for the rest of you?
When you say heavy lifting with something like TNE or Sdrol as a pre, what are we actually talking about? Real heavy compound work, 85-90% 1RM, low reps, pushing strength? Or just “feels heavy because the pre is kicking”?

Sometimes I see stacks like that and wonder if guys are preparing for a powerlifting meet… or just trying to bench press their own ego.

No shade, just genuinely curious what numbers and intensity we’re calling heavy.
 
When you say heavy lifting with something like TNE or Sdrol as a pre, what are we actually talking about? Real heavy compound work, 85-90% 1RM, low reps, pushing strength? Or just “feels heavy because the pre is kicking”?

Sometimes I see stacks like that and wonder if guys are preparing for a powerlifting meet… or just trying to bench press their own ego.

No shade, just genuinely curious what numbers and intensity we’re calling heavy.
I think it’s different for each application. Powerlifters have some gnarly pre workout blends that I’ve seen (like 100 mg each of anadrol and anavar with a side of halo). Personally I just pick and choose between anadrol, anavar, and tne on back / leg / lagging bodypart days. The goal for me is optimal endurance, intensity, pumps, and anticatabolism. And it’s fun.
 
I think it’s different for each application. Powerlifters have some gnarly pre workout blends that I’ve seen (like 100 mg each of anadrol and anavar with a side of halo). Personally I just pick and choose between anadrol, anavar, and tne on back / leg / lagging bodypart days. The goal for me is optimal endurance, intensity, pumps, and anticatabolism. And it’s fun.
That’s wild but I respect it. Everybody’s got their own mad scientist formula I guess.

In 20 years of lifting, and about 10 of that with gear, the craziest “pre” I’ve used was the old school Jack3d, some var, winny, and lately 100 mg of Armodafinil just to stay locked in and actually finish what I started. That’s been enough for heavy sets, pump days, whatever the goal is.

Maybe that’s why I’m not Mr. Olympia yet… no TNE, no Sdrol, no 100 mg Anadrol cocktails before squats. Clearly I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time.

I might experiment one day just to see what the hype is about. But lately I’ve been backing off the ego lifting anyway. Old injuries are starting to send reminder emails, and they don’t care how good the pre-workout stack is.

Appreciate you sharing though. Always interesting to see how different people approach it.
 
I think it’s different for each application. Powerlifters have some gnarly pre workout blends that I’ve seen (like 100 mg each of anadrol and anavar with a side of halo). Personally I just pick and choose between anadrol, anavar, and tne on back / leg / lagging bodypart days. The goal for me is optimal endurance, intensity, pumps, and anticatabolism. And it’s fun.
And it’s fun.. facts bro
 
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